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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 13, 2022 18:12:26 GMT
would you pick from players currently here and not with long term injuries
I’d go
…………………..Bonham……………….…
Clarke…...Taylo.…Jagielka….Tymon
……………….…..Kilkenny…………………
…….Baker…..Smallbone...Laurent..
……………..Brown……....Gayle…………
not ideal but this 532 drives me up the wall
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 13, 2022 18:22:13 GMT
4-1-2-3
Bursik (just, but we really need a keeper).
Clarke
Wilmot
Taylor
Tymon
Baker
Laurent
Smallbone
Campbell
Brown
Gayle
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 13, 2022 18:26:20 GMT
Bursik
Clarke
Jags
Taylor
Tymon
Laurent
Baker
Campbell
Smallbone
Gayle
Brown
Sign a big lump for up top then drop Brown.
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Post by lordb on Aug 13, 2022 18:27:01 GMT
We have the players
Imho this is a top 6 squad
Sure there is a gap or two but that goes for all the clubs in the division
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Post by danmase on Aug 13, 2022 18:29:26 GMT
We have the players Imho this is a top 6 squad Sure there is a gap or two but that goes for all the clubs in the division The squad is nowhere near top 6. We don't have a goalkeeper who can make a save, our defenders are cumbersome, and we still lack goals. It's a bottom 6 squad with a bottom 6 manager. |
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Post by march4 on Aug 13, 2022 18:29:57 GMT
We have the players Imho this is a top 6 squad Sure there is a gap or two but that goes for all the clubs in the division Spot on, mate. They just need organising and motivating. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 13, 2022 18:32:15 GMT
We have the players Imho this is a top 6 squad Sure there is a gap or two but that goes for all the clubs in the division The squad is nowhere near top 6. We don't have a goalkeeper who can make a save, our defenders are cumbersome, and we still lack goals. It's a bottom 6 squad with a bottom 6 manager. Disagree, top 6 squad, bottom 6 manager Bursik Clarke Taylor Jagielka (Souttar when fit) Tymon Laurent Baker Smallbone Campbell Gayle Brown (or DWP) |
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Post by TinkerT on Aug 13, 2022 18:33:47 GMT
We have the players Imho this is a top 6 squad Sure there is a gap or two but that goes for all the clubs in the division The squad is nowhere near top 6. We don't have a goalkeeper who can make a save, our defenders are cumbersome, and we still lack goals. It's a bottom 6 squad with a bottom 6 manager. Don't talk so fucking wet. Brown will get well over 10, gayle should also. Campbell you'd expect coming upto 10 along with Powell if he stays fit, then you have Baker and all the defenders, way way way enough goals on this squad the problem is confidence, mentality and the manager |
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Post by lordb on Aug 13, 2022 18:35:06 GMT
We have the players Imho this is a top 6 squad Sure there is a gap or two but that goes for all the clubs in the division The squad is nowhere near top 6. We don't have a goalkeeper who can make a save, our defenders are cumbersome, and we still lack goals. It's a bottom 6 squad with a bottom 6 manager. Nope decent manager gets more out of that midfield sorts basic set piece defending out and motivates better Top 6 squad |
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Post by lordb on Aug 13, 2022 18:36:04 GMT
The squad is nowhere near top 6. We don't have a goalkeeper who can make a save, our defenders are cumbersome, and we still lack goals. It's a bottom 6 squad with a bottom 6 manager. Disagree, top 6 squad, bottom 6 manager Bursik Clarke Taylor Jagielka (Souttar when fit) Tymon Laurent Baker Smallbone Campbell Gayle Brown (or DWP) Deffo get Jags back in Flint is a disaster |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Aug 13, 2022 18:36:18 GMT
If I was manager I would pick a team that trained with one another in the week Not a team that introduces themselves in a huddle just before kick off.
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Post by lordb on Aug 13, 2022 18:39:00 GMT
If I was manager I would pick a team that trained with one another in the week Not a team that introduces themselves in a huddle just before kick off. Hate the huddle, screams weakness |
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Post by danmase on Aug 13, 2022 18:40:08 GMT
The squad is nowhere near top 6. We don't have a goalkeeper who can make a save, our defenders are cumbersome, and we still lack goals. It's a bottom 6 squad with a bottom 6 manager. Don't talk so fucking wet. Brown will get well over 10, gayle should also. Campbell you'd expect coming upto 10 along with Powell if he stays fit, then you have Baker and all the defenders, way way way enough goals on this squad the problem is confidence, mentality and the manager Is the goalkeeper good enough? Are those three centre halves good enough? We have 2 wing backs in the squad if we play back 5. No full backs to play back 4. No natural wingers or wide forwards with any experience at this level to allow us to play any other system. Our best 11 threatens the top half, but the squad is lacking quality and depth all over (except midfield) in my opinion. |
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Post by jeycov on Aug 13, 2022 18:45:12 GMT
If I was manager I would pick a team that trained with one another in the week Not a team that introduces themselves in a huddle just before kick off. Agree in principle, some rotation is inevitable when there are midweek games but a settled formation is important |
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 13, 2022 18:46:48 GMT
Any one provided there is no Clucas, Bursik or Fox anywhere near it.
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Post by mattface on Aug 13, 2022 18:48:55 GMT
The squad is nowhere near top 6. We don't have a goalkeeper who can make a save, our defenders are cumbersome, and we still lack goals. It's a bottom 6 squad with a bottom 6 manager. Disagree, top 6 squad, bottom 6 manager Bursik Clarke Taylor Jagielka (Souttar when fit) Tymon Laurent Baker Smallbone Campbell Gayle Brown (or DWP) That's the team I'd go for |
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Post by march4 on Aug 13, 2022 18:51:45 GMT
I’m not a fan of 4-3-3 but this squad screams out for that formation.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 13, 2022 18:55:37 GMT
I’m not a fan of 4-3-3 but this squad screams out for that formation. one things for sure it doesn’t scream 532 |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 13, 2022 19:44:12 GMT
Clarke is out 10 weeks, so I doubt we’ll see much of him before Christmas.
Assuming he’s going to persist with three cbs, I’d go
Bursik
Wilmot Jagielka Taylor
Larent Baker Smallbone Tymon
Campbell Gayle Brown
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 19:57:51 GMT
-----------Bursik------------
-------Taylor----Wilmot------
Clarke------------------Tymon
-----------Laurent-----------
-----Baker------Smallbone----
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Brown---------Wright-Phillips
----------Campbell-----------
Why Campbell?
May look lazy but that is how a smart modern days "natural finisher" is like.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 13, 2022 20:11:29 GMT
-----------Bursik------------ -------Taylor----Wilmot------ Clarke------------------Tymon -----------Laurent----------- -----Baker------Smallbone---- ----------------------------- Brown---------Wright-Phillips ----------Campbell----------- Why Campbell? May look lazy but that is how a smart modern days "natural finisher" is like. Clarke is out for 10 weeks. We would have a much better team if Souttar and Powell were fit, but they’re not. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2022 20:13:21 GMT
Bursik
Edwards Taylor Jagielka Tymon
Laurent Baker
Campbell Smallbone DWP
Gayle
Far from ideal.
Needs a GK LB DM LW bigger striker and Powell ideally.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Aug 13, 2022 22:41:26 GMT
Jesus wept. I’m no O’Neill fan, I want him gone like many, but on here we have Laurent as a wing back, Brown on the wing, Gayle on the wing. Anyone for DWP at centre half?!
If I was the manager for Tuesday, and Edwards is available, I’d go for
Bursik
Taylor Jagielka Wilmot
Edwards Laurent Baker Tymon
Smallbone
Brown Gayle
Longer term I’d look at going 4-2-3-1 but using the above when necessary.
New keeper
Edwards Wilmot Souttar Tymon
Laurent Baker
Campbell Powell New LW
Gayle
Might need a new RB depending on Edwards’ development and the LW would need to be an inside forward/winger to allow Tymon to get down the wing so we don’t nullify his brilliant attacking ability. We’re not going to sign a new keeper, and I reckon we’ll get a new RB, so with Jagielka or Taylor filling in for Souttar and Smallbone for Powell we’d just need the LW with DWP backing that position up and I’d be very happy going forward.
It’s all a load of bollocks anyway because MON is going nowhere and it’ll be 352/3412/532/343 for the foreseeable. We need to sort out our set piece defending as a priority. 5 conceded in four games, 3 of which are from set pieces. The other two, a mistake by an out of position kid is easily fixable by not playing a kid out of position and another just leaving holes when chasing an equaliser which happens.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 14, 2022 0:35:50 GMT
I'd go 442 or 433 and I would leave Flint out of the squad until he shows he can run and turn faster than me.
A gk - finding one should be top priority
Wilmott - not ideal at rb but beggars can't be...
Jags
Taylor
Tymon
Baker
Laurent
Smallbone
Campbell
Gayle
Brown
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Post by thepottereye on Aug 14, 2022 0:49:25 GMT
Due to another idiotic transfer window we have only 1 formation choice … 3 at the back. I’m my opinion we are massively missing Allen or a holding midfielder like Ben Pearson hence why baker is looking ordinary so far this season.
Which ever way you look at it the squad he has built over the last few years is bottom of championship/ league 1 standard at best and in recent times I have never seen such a shocking depth of squad. Brown is a RWB at best and the centre halfs are shocking. So here’s mine …
Bursik
Taylor. Flint. Jagielka
Brown. Wilmot Tymon
Baker. Smallbone/ Laurent
Gayle. DWP / Campbell
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Post by NassauDave on Aug 14, 2022 2:30:42 GMT
Our manager couldn't motivate a chav to have a pint at Weatherspoons at 7am.
We need a keeper and a very mobile centre back. Hopefully Souttar will be back soon.
Our defence looks terrified with the ball, with nobody other than Tymon having the confidence to move or pass the ball forwards.
At the moment we are truly in deep shit.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 14, 2022 7:58:32 GMT
No way is this a top 6 squad
Firstly it's far to thin (the injury to Clarke exposes that immediately). The defence in general is weak / poor (Flint is awful) - lack of a decent goalkeeper the icing on that particular cake.
In midfield we have options but we are desperately lacking in creativity and pinning all our hopes on a young loanee from Southampton.
Up front we are a basket case - Brown isn't a striker, Campbell still nowhere near the player he was and an injury to Gayle leaves us looking utterly toothless.
Bottom half of the table squad with holes all over the place
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 14, 2022 8:09:36 GMT
With Clarke out and no real replacement in the squad I would pick this team for Wednesday: .....................Bursik....................... Wilmot........Taylor........Jags..........Tymon ...............Laurent.....Baker................. Campbell............Smallbone............Gayle .....................Brown...................... He can't keep playing Flint and keep Jags on the subs bench as he is twice the player Flint is!  |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 14, 2022 8:14:13 GMT
How can the squad be top 6 when 1 or 2 injuries completely derail us? absolute myth that we're good enough to be in the play offs. The manager isn't helping things but there are too many glaring deficiencies in this totally unbalanced squad.
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 14, 2022 8:17:01 GMT
No way is this anywhere near a top 6 squad. We could swap the manager tomorrow and it still wouldn't be a top 6 squad.
After our ridiculous and aimless lavish spending under Rowett we are just about at the bottom of the curve and starting the proper rebuild.
It will take another 2/3 years from here to build up a proper squad, under this manager or AN Other and that's only if we get pretty much 90% of our signings spot on.
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