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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 9:26:39 GMT
Post by nott1 on Aug 22, 2022 9:26:39 GMT
Messi would struggle with this manager. It's not the manager supplying him with through balls!
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 22, 2022 9:38:33 GMT
Just watching that EFL show. 34 games without a goal it said, surely that can't be right . Granted most appearances will of been as sub in the Premier league Judt 9 starts in all them games, the majority of those he's not even played 10 minutes.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 10:07:43 GMT
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 22, 2022 10:07:43 GMT
He has either lost his pace or still isn’t fit. he is going to struggle to score as a small player if his pace doesn’t return.
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 22, 2022 10:10:38 GMT
He’ll start scoring. He’s had a couple disallowed and the solo work he put in for his chance on Saturday shows that he has pace/power.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 10:12:59 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 22, 2022 10:12:59 GMT
We didn't need him he doesn't offer any attributes we didn't already have and we spunked our (Collins) windfall on him. I'm not knocking the player not saying he won't score just that that money should have been invested in mitigating deficiencies within the squad. A lesson in terrible squad building without buying terrible players.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2022 10:14:44 GMT
He's probably already regretting coming here. How anyone can say that its lack of fitness or pace that's the problem baffles me, he's living off scraps atm due to the awful why the team is set up.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 22, 2022 10:15:37 GMT
He has either lost his pace or still isn’t fit. he is going to struggle to score as a small player if his pace doesn’t return. Well, given that MON has commented that he has a tight hamstring at present, he clearly isn't going to be moving at full pace until that problem is sorted out. The fact is that he's had the ball in the net 3 times so far - twice he was given offside by tiny margins and the third time he was ruled to have fouled the keeper. That suggests that, even with a tight hamstring, his pace is good enough for him to get into scoring positions in the Championship. Obviously he'd benefit from better service but, even on the modest service he is getting, he's clearly going to score goals.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 22, 2022 10:15:37 GMT
He'll be fine. Even that chance he had on Saturday was self-created and just wouldn't quite sit down for him. He doesn't look short on confidence.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 10:16:00 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 22, 2022 10:16:00 GMT
We didn't need him he doesn't offer any attributes we didn't already have and we spunked our (Collins) windfall on him. I'm not knocking the player not saying he won't score just that that money should have been invested in mitigating deficiencies within the squad. A lesson in terrible squad building without buying terrible players. Agreed, I wouldn’t have brought him in either. However, now he’s here, we should probably stop with stupid statements like “he hasn’t scored in 30+ games”, which probably only equates to about 10 premier league matches. It’s still not good, but Gayle has always been a high end Championship player who wasn’t good enough to take the step up. If the player is here, we should support them.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 10:24:36 GMT
Post by leesandfordstoupe on Aug 22, 2022 10:24:36 GMT
We didn't need him he doesn't offer any attributes we didn't already have and we spunked our (Collins) windfall on him. I'm not knocking the player not saying he won't score just that that money should have been invested in mitigating deficiencies within the squad. A lesson in terrible squad building without buying terrible players. Agreed, I wouldn’t have brought him in either. However, now he’s here, we should probably stop with stupid statements like “he hasn’t scored in 30+ games”, which probably only equates to about 10 premier league matches. It’s still not good, but Gayle has always been a high end Championship player who wasn’t good enough to take the step up. If the player is here, we should support them. Wouldn't dream of giving him any stick on his performances so far. The squad is a mess and theres only one person who carries the can for that. Either this or a new manager needs to find a way to profit from the talents at their disposal and mitigate the mess in as best a way as possible but I'm not letting him away with the fact that the squad is bloated in some areas and awfully thin in others. It's awfully poor squad building.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 10:30:25 GMT
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Aug 22, 2022 10:30:25 GMT
Missed a gilt-edged chance Saturday and is generally getting in the way of Campbell getting games.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 10:37:01 GMT
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Post by willieeetmiout on Aug 22, 2022 10:37:01 GMT
We didn't need him he doesn't offer any attributes we didn't already have and we spunked our (Collins) windfall on him. I'm not knocking the player not saying he won't score just that that money should have been invested in mitigating deficiencies within the squad. A lesson in terrible squad building without buying terrible players. Agreed, I wouldn’t have brought him in either. However, now he’s here, we should probably stop with stupid statements like “he hasn’t scored in 30+ games”, which probably only equates to about 10 premier league matches. It’s still not good, but Gayle has always been a high end Championship player who wasn’t good enough to take the step up. If the player is here, we should support them. How is stating a fact a stupid statement? He's not scored since December 2020. He's played practically no football since then and turns 33 in October. It's an awful signing. Awful. Now being backed up by 0 in 5 for us.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 10:43:41 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 22, 2022 10:43:41 GMT
Agreed, I wouldn’t have brought him in either. However, now he’s here, we should probably stop with stupid statements like “he hasn’t scored in 30+ games”, which probably only equates to about 10 premier league matches. It’s still not good, but Gayle has always been a high end Championship player who wasn’t good enough to take the step up. If the player is here, we should support them. How is stating a fact a stupid statement? He's not scored since December 2020. He's played practically no football since then and turns 33 in October. It's an awful signing. Awful. Now being backed up by 0 in 5 for us. How many of those 33 games did he start? He was a bit part player in a Premier League team. Your fact is stupid, because it is misleading and offers no context. As mentioned, he’s had a few disallowed goals already this season and came close on Saturday. Fine margins given he didn’t have a pre-season with us. He hasn’t looked off the pace since joining.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 22, 2022 10:49:32 GMT
Missed a gilt-edged chance Saturday and is generally getting in the way of Campbell getting games. Gilt edged? It was a chance made entirely by himself chasing down Bursik's panicked clearance, beating a man and trying to chip the gk. Don't kid yourself that Campbell would have been on the end of the clearance. As for Campbell being kept out by Gayle, neither started yesterday, both came on. What did Campbell do in his twenty minutes? I said on another thread that only Gayle has the aggression speed and skill to lead the line. Delap may be able to but Brown and Campbell can't, they need someone alongside them.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 22, 2022 10:52:38 GMT
Missed a gilt-edged chance Saturday and is generally getting in the way of Campbell getting games. Gilt edged? It was a chance made entirely by himself chasing down Bursik's panicked clearance, beating a man and trying to chip the gk. Don't kid yourself that Campbell would have been on the end of the clearance. As for Campbell being kept out by Gayle, neither started yesterday, both came on. What did Campbell do in his twenty minutes? I said on another thread that only Gayle has the aggression speed and skill to lead the line. Delap may be able to but Brown and Campbell can't, they need someone alongside them. Gayle needs someone alongside him too. Aggression, speed and skill are great but to lead the line you also need physicality and the ability to hold defenders off and win it in the air. Delap hopefully can do that now and be the foil for the others.
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Post by jhtstokie on Aug 22, 2022 10:57:26 GMT
Missed a gilt-edged chance Saturday and is generally getting in the way of Campbell getting games. And what exactly is Campbell doing to get game time?
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 11:05:39 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 22, 2022 11:05:39 GMT
O'Niell brings in these players, yet doesn't play to their strengths,take Fosu, looked far better in the 2nd.half v Sunderland, when moved further up, but you can bet your house that he is played further back Against Boro.
FFS, O'Niell just play a system that's suites the players better.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 22, 2022 11:11:45 GMT
Gilt edged? It was a chance made entirely by himself chasing down Bursik's panicked clearance, beating a man and trying to chip the gk. Don't kid yourself that Campbell would have been on the end of the clearance. As for Campbell being kept out by Gayle, neither started yesterday, both came on. What did Campbell do in his twenty minutes? I said on another thread that only Gayle has the aggression speed and skill to lead the line. Delap may be able to but Brown and Campbell can't, they need someone alongside them. Gayle needs someone alongside him too. Aggression, speed and skill are great but to lead the line you also need physicality and the ability to hold defenders off and win it in the air. Delap hopefully can do that now and be the foil for the others. Agree but at the moment I think Gayle is head and shoulders above the other two as he can create for himself. I was amazed he didn't start alongside Delap.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Aug 22, 2022 11:16:21 GMT
Gayle is the least if our problems.
Has a niggle as well doesn't he? He'll come good.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 11:19:49 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 22, 2022 11:19:49 GMT
Gayle needs someone alongside him too. Aggression, speed and skill are great but to lead the line you also need physicality and the ability to hold defenders off and win it in the air. Delap hopefully can do that now and be the foil for the others. Agree but at the moment I think Gayle is head and shoulders above the other two as he can create for himself. I was amazed he didn't start alongside Delap. No problem with any of them starting alongside Delap tbh. Would be tempted to go with Brown, while he's scoring.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 11:29:35 GMT
Post by wuzza on Aug 22, 2022 11:29:35 GMT
Gayle - fully fit which he ain’t - will do a good job. Brown is a good Championship striker now. Delap has the ability and strength to be really good at this level - given a few games. Campbell needs to raise his game physically and mentally but is another potentially excellent striker.
All in all if they could just come up with a system to give any of the above any sort of regular chances we should be laughing ..........IF.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 11:39:41 GMT
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Post by willieeetmiout on Aug 22, 2022 11:39:41 GMT
How is stating a fact a stupid statement? He's not scored since December 2020. He's played practically no football since then and turns 33 in October. It's an awful signing. Awful. Now being backed up by 0 in 5 for us. How many of those 33 games did he start? He was a bit part player in a Premier League team. Your fact is stupid, because it is misleading and offers no context. As mentioned, he’s had a few disallowed goals already this season and came close on Saturday. Fine margins given he didn’t have a pre-season with us. He hasn’t looked off the pace since joining. I posted it on another thread. About 9 I think. Some in the Cup. The remainder sub appearances. The statement is only stupid if no one ever scores after coming on as a sub, which of course is a stupid statement. He has had 35 odd starting and sub appearances and has managed to score 0, nada, nothing, zilch and it's nearly 2 years since he did. I said the same about Ince when he signed as his stats for the proceeding 2 seasons were woeful but I was told he's proven Championship blah blah blah. It's a terrible signing, but joins a long list of terrible signings by this club
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 22, 2022 12:23:41 GMT
How many of those 33 games did he start? He was a bit part player in a Premier League team. Your fact is stupid, because it is misleading and offers no context. As mentioned, he’s had a few disallowed goals already this season and came close on Saturday. Fine margins given he didn’t have a pre-season with us. He hasn’t looked off the pace since joining. I posted it on another thread. About 9 I think. Some in the Cup. The remainder sub appearances. The statement is only stupid if no one ever scores after coming on as a sub, which of course is a stupid statement. He has had 35 odd starting and sub appearances and has managed to score 0, nada, nothing, zilch and it's nearly 2 years since he did. I said the same about Ince when he signed as his stats for the proceeding 2 seasons were woeful but I was told he's proven Championship blah blah blah. It's a terrible signing, but joins a long list of terrible signings by this club So he started sporadically for a club who has struggled to stay up for years and wasn’t scoring. Shocker. He has mostly been used as a sub, but for how many minutes: 2, 5, 25? Vokes was mostly used as a sub and couldn’t score. Went to the league below and had a great season. Gayle has looked good since he’s arrived. It’s a shame that we have zero creativity in the team when Tymon and Powell are injured.
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Post by Block 26 on Aug 22, 2022 12:26:26 GMT
There’s no doubt in my mind at all that Gayle will come good, He’s carrying a knock & still giving it his all. Campbell has done absolutely nothing since returning from his injury, looks overweight & imo his attitude stinks. He thinks he’s a lot better than he is. Gayle & Delap for me would be lethal if we could somehow supply them with some service… I’d put brown on the wing as he’s got a dodgy first touch when the fall is fired up front to him. But he always gives 100% & runs around like a mad man on monkey dust.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 13:18:13 GMT
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Post by willieeetmiout on Aug 22, 2022 13:18:13 GMT
I posted it on another thread. About 9 I think. Some in the Cup. The remainder sub appearances. The statement is only stupid if no one ever scores after coming on as a sub, which of course is a stupid statement. He has had 35 odd starting and sub appearances and has managed to score 0, nada, nothing, zilch and it's nearly 2 years since he did. I said the same about Ince when he signed as his stats for the proceeding 2 seasons were woeful but I was told he's proven Championship blah blah blah. It's a terrible signing, but joins a long list of terrible signings by this club So he started sporadically for a club who has struggled to stay up for years and wasn’t scoring. Shocker. He has mostly been used as a sub, but for how many minutes: 2, 5, 25? Vokes was mostly used as a sub and couldn’t score. Went to the league below and had a great season. Gayle has looked good since he’s arrived. It’s a shame that we have zero creativity in the team when Tymon and Powell are injured. Vokes, a full international and former Premier League player had to go to League 1 to start scoring. Well Gayle will get that chance with us if he carries on
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 14:21:40 GMT
Post by podolipotter on Aug 22, 2022 14:21:40 GMT
A natural goal-scorer. When he gets his first for us (hopefully sooner rather than later), I believe that he will hit double figures this season.
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Gayle
Aug 22, 2022 14:33:10 GMT
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Post by collo68 on Aug 22, 2022 14:33:10 GMT
Gayle - fully fit which he ain’t - will do a good job. Brown is a good Championship striker now. Delap has the ability and strength to be really good at this level - given a few games. Campbell needs to raise his game physically and mentally but is another potentially excellent striker. All in all if they could just come up with a system to give any of the above any sort of regular chances we should be laughing ..........IF. We played our best football with 3 up the past year and in the Hearts friendly so just do that and he can still play 3 centre half's if he wants too but we will be much more of a threat
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 28, 2022 12:23:13 GMT
Telegraph say we're paying him about 20k-a-week. Would think that'll still be huge money for the 2022 Championship uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/newcastle-paying-more-100-000-112152987.htmlPerhaps the strangest arrangement is the one that allowed Stoke City to sign striker Dwight Gayle on a permanent basis in July. The 32-year-old, who is yet to score a goal for his new employers, is still being paid £60,000-a-week, but the Championship club are only responsible for around £20,000 of that figure. Stoke received the favour as they were also struggling to meet FFP regulations in the Championship and could not have signed Gayle and covered his wages without a cut-price deal. It also thought that Newcastle had to come up with a similar arrangement to facilitate Federico Fernández’s move to Spanish club Elche.
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Gayle
Sept 28, 2022 13:12:50 GMT
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 28, 2022 13:12:50 GMT
Telegraph say we're paying him about 20k-a-week. Would think that'll still be huge money for the 2022 Championship uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/newcastle-paying-more-100-000-112152987.htmlPerhaps the strangest arrangement is the one that allowed Stoke City to sign striker Dwight Gayle on a permanent basis in July. The 32-year-old, who is yet to score a goal for his new employers, is still being paid £60,000-a-week, but the Championship club are only responsible for around £20,000 of that figure. Stoke received the favour as they were also struggling to meet FFP regulations in the Championship and could not have signed Gayle and covered his wages without a cut-price deal. It also thought that Newcastle had to come up with a similar arrangement to facilitate Federico Fernández’s move to Spanish club Elche. That’s crazy money. 60k a week. 40k from Newcastle for 2 years, what a joke but good luck to him
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Gayle
Sept 28, 2022 15:50:32 GMT
Post by somersetstokie on Sept 28, 2022 15:50:32 GMT
As many believe, probably a modern John Tudor, who fails to make an impact at Stoke, joining many other very expensive City failures.
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