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Post by armitagestokie on Jun 19, 2008 21:27:40 GMT
Received this email--thought I'd share it Allah or the Lord Jesus Christ? The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion in the UK. Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: 'Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?' There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, 'Non-believers! ' I responded, 'So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?' The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of 'a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar' He sheepishly replied, 'Yes.' I then stated, 'Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope Benedict commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven!' The Imam was speechless! I continued, 'I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to heaven and He wants you to be there with me?' You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslims' beliefs. In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.K. To elect a government of their choice, complete with sharia law I think everyone in the U.K. should be required to read this, but with the Liberal justice system, liberal media and the political correctness madness, there is no way this will be widely publicized. ???
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Post by trebor63 on Jun 19, 2008 21:32:44 GMT
Yes but at least we'll be doing everything the pc way and the nerdy liberals will claim a nice moral victory as we lick their boots ;D
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 19, 2008 21:39:10 GMT
Maybe... Maybe not, but that leads me to want to go on a rant about a related topic I've been pondering lately, though not exclusive to this, and that's whether the British community as a whole would fight if faced with a real threat of an adversary?
We fought two world wars to defend this country, and the public have always been a massive source of power, be it fighting Nazis, or striking en masse over bad pay and poor conditions, or rioting over injust laws and taxes...
But now we seem to be rolling over and just taking all the bollocks this current sham of a government is shovelling at us?
It seems to be disgruntled moaning but no real fire or passion over anything... No riots over the abolition of student grants in favour of loans... An unjust and unwanted war over oil... Ridiculous fuel costs... Smokers rolling over and licking the arse of a smoking ban...
If we faced an enemy- not necessarily Moslems but another country... Would we be able to rile ourselves up to fight or are we so apathetic that we'd make a half arsed plea to help to our Yankee cousins?
What are we fighting for these days? What is "Britishness"?
(I'd better stop there actually, I could easily turn this into an essay).
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Post by Arthurdollar on Jun 19, 2008 21:51:30 GMT
Islam Catholic C-O-E Etc.
Money making Rackets
FUCK em all.......IMHO
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jun 19, 2008 21:53:32 GMT
I'm a Catholic and don't seem to remember ever paying for it, Arthur.
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Post by leeklad on Jun 19, 2008 22:01:05 GMT
in 50 years time the muslim flag will be flying over the houses of parliament because we will of let it happen!BOOTHER top post.armitage well done.i,m no rascist but i,m afraid our leaders will turn us all eventually
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Post by powchirper on Jun 19, 2008 22:01:37 GMT
Armiage it is a very real worry and these nutters are a real threat to our way of life but as soon as you say anything anywhere about it you will get shouted down, there will be posters coming on here soon to slag you and call you all manner of things, these are people who have unwittingly been brainwashed into thinking that flooding the country with immigrants is good, Wake up and smell the curry for fucks sake, These people are evil and the sooner this or the next lot to take power realise it the better it will be for the whole of the country.
Ps, do gooders may smite at will.
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Post by armitagestokie on Jun 19, 2008 22:55:24 GMT
This sort of thing sickens me--just because the Muslims believe the holocaust to be a myth!!!
Schools drop Holocaust lessons to avoid offenceAlexandra Frean Teachers are dropping controversial subjects such as the Holocaust and the Crusades from history lessons because they do not want to cause offence to children from certain races or religions, a report claims.
A lack of factual knowledge among some teachers, particularly in primary schools, is also leading to “shallow” lessons on emotive and difficult subjects, according to the study by the Historical Association.
The report, produced with funding from the Department for Education, said that where teachers and staff avoided emotive and controversial history, their motives were generally well intentioned.
“Staff may wish to avoid causing offence or appearing insensitive to individuals or groups in their classes. In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship,” it concluded.
However, it was concerned that this could lead to divisions within school, and that it might also put pupils off history
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Post by leeklad on Jun 19, 2008 23:11:12 GMT
This sort of thing sickens me--just because the Muslims believe the holocaust to be a myth!!! Schools drop Holocaust lessons to avoid offenceAlexandra Frean Teachers are dropping controversial subjects such as the Holocaust and the Crusades from history lessons because they do not want to cause offence to children from certain races or religions, a report claims. A lack of factual knowledge among some teachers, particularly in primary schools, is also leading to “shallow” lessons on emotive and difficult subjects, according to the study by the Historical Association. The report, produced with funding from the Department for Education, said that where teachers and staff avoided emotive and controversial history, their motives were generally well intentioned. “Staff may wish to avoid causing offence or appearing insensitive to individuals or groups in their classes. In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship,” it concluded. However, it was concerned that this could lead to divisions within school, and that it might also put pupils off history WHAT THE FUCK
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Post by Time4aPINT on Jun 19, 2008 23:47:44 GMT
armitagestokie, the next time you receive an email like this one instead of wondering whether to worry about it or not just delete it. Religious preachers regardless of which religion they belong to have an answer for every question and would hardly lose their cool at questions that they have probably heard dozens of times before. "The Imam was speechless!" and other quotes from the email make me think the whole email is a load of bullshit (a work of fiction by a person with a hidden agenda) with a purpose of stirring up hate, possibly to help a certain party win more votes at the next council elections.
There are extremist Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Christians, who do their faith a grave disservice by preaching a twisted version of their religion. They are a problem but a minor problem compared to the Chav. society that seems to be taking over our country. To me it seems a fucked up society that we live in where the police can lock up someone for 42 days without charge but a policeman doesn't have the power to give a pissed up 15 year old a bollocking for terrorising his neighbourhood.
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Post by daverichards on Jun 19, 2008 23:58:40 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jun 20, 2008 6:22:49 GMT
Boother, you had me listening until you mentioned the smoking ban
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 20, 2008 12:35:06 GMT
As Daves facts point out, there is a reason why Islam is the fastet growing and thats because there aren't that many anyway.
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Post by edinburghstokie on Jun 20, 2008 12:51:44 GMT
in 50 years time the muslim flag will be flying over the houses of parliament Can you tell me what the Muslim flag looks like? Have you a picture of it?
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Post by daverichards on Jun 20, 2008 21:23:31 GMT
clearly maths isn't a strong point with the BNP propaganderists , or those they aim their BULLSHIT at
as of 2001 census just 2.7% of the polpulation said they were muslim .
about 1.65M , to gain a majority of a voting age every single one of those 1.65M would need to have 20 children , or 40 children PER COUPLE , and have them all in the next 2 YEARS so they were 18 in 20 years time ... and that is ASSUMING no rise in the non muslim population
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Post by leeklad on Jun 20, 2008 22:12:14 GMT
thats 7 years ago
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Post by daverichards on Jun 21, 2008 5:25:32 GMT
WHOOOPDY FUCKING DOOO I'd fucking suprised if it was above 5% now
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Post by stokey-pokey pudding and pie on Jun 21, 2008 7:00:23 GMT
i remember when the sentinel actually printed the figures for stoke immigrant population. out of 250,000 approx 6000 had arrived in the country in the last 5 years - 96.4 % were born in the UK and just 69 people had applied for asylum!! works out at about 0.1% of the population...... i can see that 'muslim flag' being raised as we speak!
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