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Post by WorkingclassHero on Jul 31, 2022 7:08:22 GMT
Well I was wrong, I fear we are @@@ ed. We seemingly don't know what we are doing and the recruitment has been shocking . We have a 5 3 2 formation with no ball playing CH and no wingback. The three most important positions fir the formation to work never mind any cover for those positions. Honestly it is mind blowing. We have in Snallbone Baker Kilkenny Powell Clucas Laurent Thompson A lot of very similar players none of whom want to play wide and have signed a very old looking Gayle with our windfall. On top of this we need a keeper. Honestly I'm struggling with how this mess can be solved. 😞 And who the hell scouted Flint
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Post by redandwhiteivy on Jul 31, 2022 7:14:19 GMT
It has only been one game FFS
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Post by stokie63 on Jul 31, 2022 7:16:07 GMT
Same here depressed the most worrying thing I heard yesterday in his interview on radio stoke was, he thinks only 2 set pieces were the difference between the 2 sides, that's very worrying they were everything we aren't and I can't see it getting any better, were in for a very depressing season if he thinks that.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jul 31, 2022 7:26:58 GMT
It has only been one game FFS It's been 2 years FFS
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 31, 2022 7:29:27 GMT
It has only been one game FFS It's been 2 years FFS It's been 2 and half years hasn't it? It's fucking shit and it's a total scandal that this guy hasn't been fired.
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Post by matelot1996 on Jul 31, 2022 7:30:21 GMT
It has only been one game FFS It's been 2 years FFS 2 Years 8 Months but not counting.
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Post by David Brent on Jul 31, 2022 7:44:42 GMT
Change to 433 and our results will pick up its that simple
Bursik
Clarke Wilmot Taylor Tymon
Baker Laurent
Smallbone (Cam)
Tyrese Gayle Brown
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Post by ted1965 on Jul 31, 2022 7:45:37 GMT
That was dreadful and no amount of it’s the first game of the season relax is going change the reality of that 90 minutes. We conceded the same goal twice despite having 57% possession had one shot on target.I agree we could take Blackpool apart next week and in 6 weeks could be all saying how great we are but a complete reversal of form will be needed.
I have supported Stoke since 1970 a 5 year old kid who had so many hopes for his club, is this the worst I have seen, not even close but it matches the most wet bag of nothing I have seen. It’s like last season never ended we just changed some personal but the end product exactly the same. Where is the much vaunted energy the manager talks about in every interview,it sure as hell wasn’t on view at Millwall or the pre-season games.
For all those who think this is an attack on MON its not I like him but he just seems incapable of rectifying the same turgid blueprint that has been our downfall for the last 2 seasons. I want MON to be successful because I want some enjoyment from my club again, I don’t need to like the manager because I am not interacting with him I just want the team to look like they want to entertain us and win some games.
I am not going to judge any players on one game because someone can have an absolute stinker of a debut and then within weeks become a fan favourite and can be magnificent on debut and just fade to nothing so individual performances can improve but for most of them they will need to. Why was Clucas playing the midfield was basically the same three players in different stages of their evolution at the club, where was Smallbone, the only creative spark we have available right now, we started with a functional midfield that did just that in functioned but it didn’t create. Smallbone by all accounts had a good pre-season for Southampton so it can’t have been fitness worries, no it was let’s try and arm wrestle a point or get a lucky goal either way it said we don’t think we can win. Sadly I went into the game ecpecting a 1or 2 goal loss but hoped we might come away saying I can see better to come well if anyone witnessed that and came away optimistic you’re a better man than I am Gung Adin.
I hope they have some real gems up their sleeves before deadline day because we still look unbalanced and lack energy, my god if you lack energy on the first day of the season what the hell have we been doing. If any high profile loan forward was watching that they may say who else wants me.
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Post by franklin on Jul 31, 2022 7:48:49 GMT
Same here depressed the most worrying thing I heard yesterday in his interview on radio stoke was, he thinks only 2 set pieces were the difference between the 2 sides, that's very worrying they were everything we aren't and I can't see it getting any better, were in for a very depressing season if he thinks that. If that's not concerning enough that he's delusional add to that that MON is incapable or unwilling of change. His interviews could just be played on a loop the first one was the same as his last one and that's because we play the same turgid crap week after week and he has nothing to say, if I hear him say "look we're disappointed" one more time I'll explode.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jul 31, 2022 8:15:39 GMT
It's been 2 and half years hasn't it? It's fucking shit and it's a total scandal that this guy hasn't been fired. Yes it’s shit but let’s not forget where we were when MON started.
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Post by samuel32 on Jul 31, 2022 8:21:31 GMT
Same here depressed the most worrying thing I heard yesterday in his interview on radio stoke was, he thinks only 2 set pieces were the difference between the 2 sides, that's very worrying they were everything we aren't and I can't see it getting any better, were in for a very depressing season if he thinks that. He sounded deluded. They had 13 shots to our 4. 4 shots all game. We've got far bigger issues than set pieces.
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Post by deeside2 on Jul 31, 2022 8:30:38 GMT
Same here depressed the most worrying thing I heard yesterday in his interview on radio stoke was, he thinks only 2 set pieces were the difference between the 2 sides, that's very worrying they were everything we aren't and I can't see it getting any better, were in for a very depressing season if he thinks that. If that's not concerning enough that he's delusional add to that that MON is incapable or unwilling of change. His interviews could just be played on a loop the first one was the same as his last one and that's because we play the same turgid crap week after week and he has nothing to say, if I hear him say "look we're disappointed" one more time I'll explode. I can't bring myself to listen to his interviews or pressers - they're all the same and mean nothing.
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Post by Gods on Jul 31, 2022 8:33:02 GMT
Same here depressed the most worrying thing I heard yesterday in his interview on radio stoke was, he thinks only 2 set pieces were the difference between the 2 sides, that's very worrying they were everything we aren't and I can't see it getting any better, were in for a very depressing season if he thinks that. He sounded deluded. They had 13 shots to our 4. 4 shots all game. We've got far bigger issues than set pieces. I saw the 13-4 shots stat. We saw a fair bit of the ball but some of that was Millwall falling back and hitting us on the break once 2 goals ahead.
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Post by march4 on Jul 31, 2022 8:40:27 GMT
A good season will be a top 20 finish under the current setup.
My fear is we are bottom of the table and will stay there for a good while.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 31, 2022 8:42:59 GMT
The way I look at it dreadful as our performance was it was good to get a match out of the way which we were 90% certain of losing whenever we played it and however well we were playing. Hoped for a draw but expected a defeat.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 31, 2022 8:46:39 GMT
If he isn't sacked, this could be our worst season since Bill Asprey was in charge.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Jul 31, 2022 8:56:55 GMT
It's been 2 and half years hasn't it? It's fucking shit and it's a total scandal that this guy hasn't been fired. Yes it’s shit but let’s not forget where we were when MON started. Unless this was intended to be a humorous response, I think we are in exactly the same position as when MON joined ie bottom of the Championship.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 31, 2022 8:57:30 GMT
Having watched the rest of the Championship highlights I’m slightly more pessimistic than I was before (and I was very pessimistic before). Other teams seem to have a grasp of the need to move with speed and purpose even if they aren’t the most talented of set ups.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 31, 2022 8:59:21 GMT
Only upside for me is that I don't get depressed now and a defeat doesn't ruin the weekend - it is what its been allowed to become these past 3 or 4 seasons both at the club level and the game in general and I'm no longer emotionally invested in it - of course I'll continue to watch either on TV or pick & choose the odd match at the 365 for the craic but won't dwell on the outcome....
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Post by stokie63 on Jul 31, 2022 9:04:37 GMT
The way I look at it dreadful as our performance was it was good to get a match out of the way which we were 90% certain of losing whenever we played it and however well we were playing. Hoped for a draw but expected a defeat. It's not the defeat that bothers me, I didn't think we would get a result its the manner of the defeat that concerns me, if we'd lost and showed a good performance and in the game for the majority of the 90 mins I can take heart from that, but let's be honest it could have been a 5 or 6 goal defeat 1 goal disallowed don't no why and burski made a cple of very good saves and we offered nothing as a attacking force, and that dick head thinks only 2 set pieces separated the teams the mind boggles.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 31, 2022 9:09:51 GMT
It has only been one game FFS Did people actually think yesterday was a reset and meant what has gone on before was forgotten about?
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 31, 2022 9:12:43 GMT
It's been 2 and half years hasn't it? It's fucking shit and it's a total scandal that this guy hasn't been fired. Yes it’s shit but let’s not forget where we were when MON started. How long we guna bang that drum for that’s done and dusted now
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Post by orfyboothen on Jul 31, 2022 9:55:10 GMT
It has only been one game FFS It's been 2 years FFS It has. But for 5 debutants it is one game only. Half an outfield team. More debutants to follow. I'm far convinced by MON but are we seriously writing this summer's recruitment off already? Isn't it possible for example that Laurent, Clarke, Smallbone, Gayle and Delap(?) could yet have excellent seasons? Obviously , whether or not MON is the right man to oversee all this is well up for debate.
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Post by redandwhiteivy on Jul 31, 2022 10:00:51 GMT
It has only been one game FFS Did people actually think yesterday was a reset and meant what has gone on before was forgotten about? No, but I also don’t think people should be knicker wetting after one game of a new season.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 31, 2022 10:01:15 GMT
It's been 2 and half years hasn't it? It's fucking shit and it's a total scandal that this guy hasn't been fired. Yes it’s shit but let’s not forget where we were when MON started. Yes he did superbly but that was then… Yesterday was a complete disaster and just follows a pattern of relegation football/results from the second half of last season. We’ll be back to where we were when he took over first soon. Total mess of his own making
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 31, 2022 10:07:08 GMT
Did people actually think yesterday was a reset and meant what has gone on before was forgotten about? No, but I also don’t think people should be knicker wetting after one game of a new season. It’s irrelevant. It doesn’t matter it’s the start of the season.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 31, 2022 10:07:57 GMT
Did people actually think yesterday was a reset and meant what has gone on before was forgotten about? No, but I also don’t think people should be knicker wetting after one game of a new season. I’m not knicker wetting, I’m in full adult nappy incontinent mode. He’s run out of excuses. Seriously hoofing it up to Gayle & Campbell at every opportunity. A mole with cataracts could see if wasn’t working. Defense leaking worse than a condom dragged through a torn bush. Players out of position and looking like they hadn’t a clue what to do I need another pee…
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 31, 2022 10:10:36 GMT
No, but I also don’t think people should be knicker wetting after one game of a new season. It’s irrelevant. It doesn’t matter it’s the start of the season. Spot on the trajectory has been appalling for 18 months the hardest thing to change in football without management changer and we have tried to ignore it my old friend is very very interested after the end of last season , the summer business which has plumbed new depths as we feared and A horrendous pre season that absolutely signalled an accelerated rate of decline
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Post by thevoid on Jul 31, 2022 10:13:04 GMT
It's been 2 and half years hasn't it? It's fucking shit and it's a total scandal that this guy hasn't been fired. The half year was when he took over and we were a much better watch despite it being a struggling team.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jul 31, 2022 10:13:30 GMT
It has. But for 5 debutants it is one game only. Half an outfield team. More debutants to follow. I'm far convinced by MON but are we seriously writing this summer's recruitment off already? Isn't it possible for example that Laurent, Clarke, Smallbone, Gayle and Delap(?) could yet have excellent seasons? Obviously , whether or not MON is the right man to oversee all this is well up for debate. There is only one hope of salvaging anything from this season ... and it isn't Liam Delap.
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