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Post by werrington on Jul 26, 2022 15:53:28 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2022 15:56:08 GMT
Because they have a good racket going on?
Don't blame them tbh.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 26, 2022 15:57:11 GMT
Oldies like me get free travel on all local bus services providing I don't set foot on the bus until 9:30 am or later on weekdays - no restrictions at the weekend. I love being an oldie!  |
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Post by LH_SCFC on Jul 26, 2022 17:17:53 GMT
Travel on the Metro is included in a Man Citeh season ticket. It’s all very sensible stuff.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2022 17:19:58 GMT
Travel on the Metro is included in a Man Citeh season ticket. It’s all very sensible stuff. Subsidised by the club I'm guessing? And does the Metro make a profit (I have no idea). I would imagine, this is the only thing First Potteries actually make a profit from. |
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Post by RF10 on Jul 26, 2022 17:26:38 GMT
Think it would make huge difference to the pub in town too. Although only 3 quid at moment that's your pint almost paid for.
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Post by chad on Jul 26, 2022 17:28:40 GMT
Oldies like me get free travel on all local bus services providing I don't set foot on the bus until 9:30 am or later on weekdays - no restrictions at the weekend. I love being an oldie! Me to but unfortunately they don’t take the bus pass for the footie bus. Never known why ? |
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Post by RF10 on Jul 26, 2022 17:30:21 GMT
Travel on the Metro is included in a Man Citeh season ticket. It’s all very sensible stuff. Subsidised by the club I'm guessing? And does the Metro make a profit (I have no idea). I would imagine, this is the only thing First Potteries actually make a profit from. Think it's a fair comment regarding First Potteries. They must make fair bit on match day |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2022 17:33:40 GMT
Subsidised by the club I'm guessing? And does the Metro make a profit (I have no idea). I would imagine, this is the only thing First Potteries actually make a profit from. Think it's a fair comment regarding First Potteries. They must make fair bit on match day Yeah they're clearly in the shit and are very shit too. Their operation is a joke. Not helped by the insane geography of the Potteries. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 26, 2022 17:44:01 GMT
Oldies like me get free travel on all local bus services providing I don't set foot on the bus until 9:30 am or later on weekdays - no restrictions at the weekend. I love being an oldie! Me to but unfortunately they don’t take the bus pass for the footie bus. Never known why ? It is a government sponsored scheme and presumably the government rules say they will only compensate the bus companies when the pass is used on a regular bus service (after 9:30 am on weekdays and all day at weekends) not special services or charters. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 26, 2022 19:16:28 GMT
In most places the bus is still a quid for a journey.
In Stoke its almost 3 quid.
It wont get used unless its a clean reliable service with a good timetable.
Most services stop at 6.
Hardly ideal for a pop up town for a sherbet or a trip to the cinema/theatre.
The amount of older folk who relied on services are virtual prisoners in their own homes now.
Nothing will change in this city until the powers that be all read from the same hymn.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 26, 2022 19:23:09 GMT
In most places the bus is still a quid for a journey. In Stoke its almost 3 quid. It wont get used unless its a clean reliable service with a good timetable. Most services stop at 6. Hardly ideal for a pop up town for a sherbet or a trip to the cinema/theatre. The amount of older folk who relied on services are virtual prisoners in their own homes now. Nothing will change in this city until the powers that be all read from the same hymn. Where are these "most places"? Manchester is just about to bring in a scheme that makes every bus journey 2 quid. I got the bus from Crewe to Wheelock the other day and it was £3.60. Robbing Arriva fuckers. Agree with the rest though! |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 27, 2022 20:51:20 GMT
Travel on the Metro is included in a Man Citeh season ticket. It’s all very sensible stuff. Subsidised by the club I'm guessing? And does the Metro make a profit (I have no idea). I would imagine, this is the only thing First Potteries actually make a profit from. The metro is non profit |
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Post by femark on Jul 28, 2022 7:44:20 GMT
In most places the bus is still a quid for a journey. In Stoke its almost 3 quid. It wont get used unless its a clean reliable service with a good timetable. Most services stop at 6. Hardly ideal for a pop up town for a sherbet or a trip to the cinema/theatre. The amount of older folk who relied on services are virtual prisoners in their own homes now. Nothing will change in this city until the powers that be all read from the same hymn. The bus services are ran by private companies, so they decide when and where the buses run. If its not economically viable to run a bus service at night for £1 a trip they wont do it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2022 7:46:28 GMT
In most places the bus is still a quid for a journey. In Stoke its almost 3 quid. It wont get used unless its a clean reliable service with a good timetable. Most services stop at 6. Hardly ideal for a pop up town for a sherbet or a trip to the cinema/theatre. The amount of older folk who relied on services are virtual prisoners in their own homes now. Nothing will change in this city until the powers that be all read from the same hymn. The bus services are ran by private companies, so they decide when and where the buses run. If its not economically viable to run a bus service at night for £1 a trip they wont do it. Nationalise the lot. |
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 28, 2022 7:47:30 GMT
Some clubs in the Bundesliga have been doing this since the early 00s. I used to work with a bloke who's daughter dated a German fella. Went to a Bundesliga match with Stuttgart I think (?). Basically got a match ticket, free bus ride from a fan park, a token for a beer and a free scarf for around 15 Euro's.
Bargain.
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Post by femark on Jul 28, 2022 9:38:51 GMT
The bus services are ran by private companies, so they decide when and where the buses run. If its not economically viable to run a bus service at night for £1 a trip they wont do it. Nationalise the lot. I'm not sure that paying vast amounts to buy back the now profitable private bus companies in order to reduce fares, whilst increasing routes & timetables thus making them non-profitable, would be a good idea. |
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 28, 2022 9:51:07 GMT
The bus services are ran by private companies, so they decide when and where the buses run. If its not economically viable to run a bus service at night for £1 a trip they wont do it. Nationalise the lot. The government have such a good track record of running things 🙂 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2022 10:07:31 GMT
I'm not sure that paying vast amounts to buy back the now profitable private bus companies in order to reduce fares, whilst increasing routes & timetables thus making them non-profitable, would be a good idea. The bus service in the local area is a joke. Something needs to happen. Energy, water and transport need to be run publicly. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2022 10:45:03 GMT
I'm not sure that paying vast amounts to buy back the now profitable private bus companies in order to reduce fares, whilst increasing routes & timetables thus making them non-profitable, would be a good idea. depends if buses are there to provide a service then they absolutely either need nationalising or heavily subsidising & linked up properly with other transport (rail,trams e.t.c.) as they are across Europe hugely successfully if buses are there solely to make a profit then yes its a bad idea This country's transport provision is appalling & compares massively unfavourably with every country I have been to in Europe & from what I understand compares massively unfavourably with the countries I haven't been to too Whatever other countries are doing we need to do that |
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Post by femark on Jul 28, 2022 11:19:16 GMT
I'm not sure that paying vast amounts to buy back the now profitable private bus companies in order to reduce fares, whilst increasing routes & timetables thus making them non-profitable, would be a good idea. depends if buses are there to provide a service then they absolutely either need nationalising or heavily subsidising & linked up properly with other transport (rail,trams e.t.c.) as they are across Europe hugely successfully if buses are there solely to make a profit then yes its a bad idea This country's transport provision is appalling & compares massively unfavourably with every country I have been to in Europe & from what I understand compares massively unfavourably with the countries I haven't been to too Whatever other countries are doing we need to do that Of course they're there to provide a service, but it isn't practical for a public transport network to run at a significant loss. The difference with the UK is that we run a low tax economy based on privatised services. If I was to live in Germany, where the transport is fantastic, I would be paying around 40% tax, health & unemployment insurance. Essentially I would take home 60% of my salary as appose to 75% currently |
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Post by spiderpuss on Jul 28, 2022 11:27:52 GMT
In most places the bus is still a quid for a journey. In Stoke its almost 3 quid. It wont get used unless its a clean reliable service with a good timetable. Most services stop at 6. Hardly ideal for a pop up town for a sherbet or a trip to the cinema/theatre. The amount of older folk who relied on services are virtual prisoners in their own homes now. Nothing will change in this city until the powers that be all read from the same hymn. Where are these "most places"? Manchester is just about to bring in a scheme that makes every bus journey 2 quid. I got the bus from Crewe to Wheelock the other day and it was £3.60. Robbing Arriva fuckers. Agree with the rest though! I don't mind paying for a service, but that's not what we are getting here in Stoke. After 6 is a huge issue in the city, with just the "25" operating in my area. We have bus stops where nothing ever stops and on the A500 roundabout by Shelton, bus lanes where there is NO service at all. The service in this city has been ground down until nothing exists. People only have to cast their minds back to Edinburgh last week to see what a proper service looks like. Also bear in mind, a journey in Manc might be 2, but the city centre is free and a day-ride cost around 4. You have to ask yourself do you want that or something that looks like our pitiful mess? Want a drink in Leek after 7? Hope you've got some taxi numbers handy. We've been sold down the river here. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2022 12:16:58 GMT
depends if buses are there to provide a service then they absolutely either need nationalising or heavily subsidising & linked up properly with other transport (rail,trams e.t.c.) as they are across Europe hugely successfully if buses are there solely to make a profit then yes its a bad idea This country's transport provision is appalling & compares massively unfavourably with every country I have been to in Europe & from what I understand compares massively unfavourably with the countries I haven't been to too Whatever other countries are doing we need to do that Of course they're there to provide a service, but it isn't practical for a public transport network to run at a significant loss. The difference with the UK is that we run a low tax economy based on privatised services. If I was to live in Germany, where the transport is fantastic, I would be paying around 40% tax, health & unemployment insurance. Essentially I would take home 60% of my salary as appose to 75% currently & yet they have a higher standard of living, less homelessness,far better standards of health (which saves everyone money in the long run), better economy, they don't have 'Children In Need' in Germany because they don't have children in need ...could go on & on This country's decades long stance of low taxes/low public service spending is bad for everyone going to park this now as these are arguments for the ee board |
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Post by kronkie on Jul 28, 2022 16:18:13 GMT
Southampton did in when they moved to St Mary's as a bribe to the council so they could build the stadium in the city centre, only did it for a few seasons then bailed out.
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