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Post by bloodtypered on Jul 23, 2022 12:47:08 GMT
Getting there?, (although pre season has been dubious)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2022 12:48:24 GMT
I think the midfield looks a lot stronger.
Past that I’m not convinced.
But still plenty of time yet.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 23, 2022 12:55:22 GMT
Younger, more energetic and hungry will do for me, even if we’re inconsistent with it. Just happy to finally have some semblance of a fresh start…….
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 23, 2022 16:38:13 GMT
MON could have the Real Madrid squad and he would would still have them playing negative football.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 23, 2022 16:46:05 GMT
Bottom line is it’s all about how the TEAM performs and as far as that goes the pre season couldn’t really have been more depressing.
The whole seems to be very much less than the sum of the parts.
Without a significant change in how we utilise the squad things will remain a bit bleak.
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Post by potterburt on Jul 23, 2022 16:57:02 GMT
I think the midfield looks a lot stronger. Past that I’m not convinced. But still plenty of time yet. Think the midfield is stronger in terms of personnel for sure this season but these preseason matches they’ve looked lacklustre, a bit lost and therefore been bypassed in our way of playing. Smallboner sparked the middle of the field into action when he came on, I’m hoping that that roaming AM role is the key. |
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 23, 2022 16:57:04 GMT
We haven’t lost any key players have we? The ones that have left haven’t made me think “they’re leaving a hole”. And I think everybody we’ve signed so far will contribute.
As others have said, it’s about how we set up and approach games - the squad is better than last season, and we will probably still add to it, but if we don’t capitalise on that, then MON deserves to go.
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Post by generationex on Jul 23, 2022 17:08:45 GMT
Whether Joe Allen was a key player remains to be seen.
We were a poor team last year so unless the new batch are a significant improvement I can’t see much change. It’s been all very Meh and the pre-season has done nothing to improve positivity.
We still look lightweight and injury prone.
I’m not sure we’re fit. Mistakes still look moments away. The keeper remains flaky.
I’d love to be proved wrong but I hope the board are considering where we go next if MON hasn’t made a difference.
Lower mid table by October warrants the chop.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 23, 2022 17:16:15 GMT
The main part of the squad that needs addressing, is the guy that's managing it.
This squad, with a new forward thinking, attack minded manager will finish in the top 6 with ease IMO
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 23, 2022 17:19:43 GMT
Good squad but poor manager
It will only end in one way now
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2022 17:44:52 GMT
I think the midfield looks a lot stronger. Past that I’m not convinced. But still plenty of time yet. Think the midfield is stronger in terms of personnel for sure this season but these preseason matches they’ve looked lacklustre, a bit lost and therefore been bypassed in our way of playing. Smallboner sparked the middle of the field into action when he came on, I’m hoping that that roaming AM role is the key. I just think they’re all samey (but they were before). He looked like he knew what football was unlike the rest |
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Post by iglugluk on Jul 23, 2022 18:11:09 GMT
Bottom line is it’s all about how the TEAM performs and as far as that goes the pre season couldn’t really have been more depressing. The whole seems to be very much less than the sum of the parts.Without a significant change in how we utilise the squad things will remain a bit bleak. Echoes of the situation after the January transfer window |
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Post by potterburt on Jul 23, 2022 18:13:56 GMT
Think the midfield is stronger in terms of personnel for sure this season but these preseason matches they’ve looked lacklustre, a bit lost and therefore been bypassed in our way of playing. Smallboner sparked the middle of the field into action when he came on, I’m hoping that that roaming AM role is the key. I just think they’re all samey (but they were before). He looked like he knew what football was unlike the rest Oh wow, well he must also be the only other one blessed with the divine exclusive insightfulness as to what it means to know what football actually is - just like you Bayern! 🙌🏼 |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 23, 2022 18:15:35 GMT
The main part of the squad that needs addressing, is the guy that's managing it. This squad, with a new forward thinking, attack minded manager will finish in the top 6 with ease IMO Really? This squad is devoid of quality. We’ve got 4 good players. 2 are injured and 1 is coming back from a long term injury. We’ve then got Wilmot and Laurent who are half decent, then aside from the 2 we signed in the last 24 hours, the rest are crap. We’ve shopped in the bargain basement and it shows. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 23, 2022 18:15:55 GMT
Looks like we will start a new season with a poor keeper, no main striker, doesn't matter how good the other 9 are, these two positions are going to cost us pts.
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Post by tejstokie on Jul 23, 2022 18:18:11 GMT
Still weak between the sticks, added midfield and forward options. GK and defender in and then we'd be stronger 💪
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Post by stokieinlondon on Jul 23, 2022 18:23:45 GMT
If we’d kept Joe Allen, yes.
Now? Not sure.
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 23, 2022 18:28:21 GMT
The main part of the squad that needs addressing, is the guy that's managing it. This squad, with a new forward thinking, attack minded manager will finish in the top 6 with ease IMO Really? This squad is devoid of quality. We’ve got 4 good players. 2 are injured and 1 is coming back from a long term injury. We’ve then got Wilmot and Laurent who are half decent, then aside from the 2 we signed in the last 24 hours, the rest are crap. We’ve shopped in the bargain basement and it shows. Bursik (or new number 1) Clarke Taylor Jagielka (Souttar when fit) Tymon Laurent Smallbone Baker Brown Gayle Campbell I think that is more than good enough for play offs, with Kilkenny, McCarron, a new RB (first choice ideally) Powell to come back. The manager is our biggest problem at the moment |
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Post by binthelplates on Jul 23, 2022 18:29:17 GMT
We’ll need about 75 goals to get automatic promotion, or at least it’ll get us in the play offs. That’s another 25 more goals than last season, hopefully Gayle matches Brown’s tally from last year but might be short.
Again jury will be out on Tye until he scores a few and shows sharpness, but still might not be a 90 minute player, so I reckon another striker might be needed.
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Post by jokker on Jul 23, 2022 19:17:11 GMT
MON could have the Real Madrid squad and he would would still have them playing negative football. The Real Madrid squad don't need a manager. That's why Ancelotti is so successful. |
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Post by windows1 on Jul 23, 2022 19:24:59 GMT
I think the midfield looks a lot stronger. Past that I’m not convinced. But still plenty of time yet. Keepers look even weaker now MON's sucked the confidence right out of them. Defence is weaker..?... Smith was sound at the season.. clarke is 50/50. Flints not better the THB Laurent does not look better than allen yet. Smallbone is better the vranic i believe. Kilkenny... god knows. Worse up top. Gayle might change that. Thought he looks class today. |
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Post by slother on Jul 23, 2022 21:15:11 GMT
The main part of the squad that needs addressing, is the guy that's managing it. This squad, with a new forward thinking, attack minded manager will finish in the top 6 with ease IMO Manager makes a "top six" squad and you want him sacked. Fucking doughnut! |
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 23, 2022 21:18:41 GMT
Getting there?, (although pre season has been dubious) Pity we have such a shit negative manger tbh |
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 23, 2022 21:22:05 GMT
The main part of the squad that needs addressing, is the guy that's managing it. This squad, with a new forward thinking, attack minded manager will finish in the top 6 with ease IMO Manager makes a "top six" squad and you want him sacked. Fucking doughnut! Top 6 squad , bottom 6 manger |
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Post by scfcwebby on Jul 23, 2022 21:23:22 GMT
The main part of the squad that needs addressing, is the guy that's managing it. This squad, with a new forward thinking, attack minded manager will finish in the top 6 with ease IMO Manager makes a "top six" squad and you want him sacked. Fucking doughnut! Signed some good individual players but hasn't got a clue what to do with them. I could go out and buy a plane, doesn't mean I know how to fly it |
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Post by slother on Jul 23, 2022 21:25:30 GMT
Manager makes a "top six" squad and you want him sacked. Fucking doughnut! Signed some good individual players but hasn't got a clue what to do with them. I could go out and buy a plane, doesn't mean I know how to fly it Really, you could buy a Lear jet for 10p? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 23, 2022 21:35:49 GMT
MON could have the Real Madrid squad and he would would still have them playing negative football. The Real Madrid squad don't need a manager. That's why Ancelotti is so successful. Others have failed it’s his light touch that seems to work with elite players |
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Post by Gods on Jul 23, 2022 21:45:27 GMT
If we’d kept Joe Allen, yes. Now? Not sure. I can't believe people are saying Joe Allen was not a key player. He was almost our only key player. Well the only key player who is not injured most of the time anyway. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 23, 2022 21:46:12 GMT
yes if used right.
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Post by bloodtypered on Jul 23, 2022 21:56:28 GMT
It takes time to intergrate and get to full fitness.
With Jones and Rowett we had good pre seasons
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