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Post by GrahamHyde on Jun 9, 2022 19:28:35 GMT
How would you rank them from best to worst?
Owen the only one to win a Ballon D'Or.
Rooney scored in a Champions League final and the best of the bunch domestically. Far greater number of assists. But disappointing on major international stage.
Kane looks on track to break all records, most goals in major international competitions (Golden Boot as well?). Still only 28.
Shearer greatest goalscorer in PL history, made greater by playing for a largely mid-table team for most of it.
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Post by mrrine on Jun 9, 2022 19:32:57 GMT
In that order really!
Shearer, Owen, Rooney, Kane
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 9, 2022 19:35:47 GMT
Almost an impossible question, they all have pros and cons
Rooney probably the best player
Kane probably the best all rounder
Owen a brilliant finisher and pace
Shearer a proper striker
Lineker a poacher
I’d probably put it in that order until Kane breaks the record this year
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jun 9, 2022 19:42:49 GMT
I know Kane scores lots of goals but I find him very frustrating to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 19:45:04 GMT
Shearer the best, without doubt.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Jun 9, 2022 19:46:04 GMT
Shearer and then the others well down the road.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 9, 2022 19:46:40 GMT
I know Kane scores lots of goals but I find him very frustrating to watch. He gets a weird amount of shit for someone who’s scored 50 goals for his country. I personally think he’s a top footballer who sometimes tries to influence things deeper when he’s getting no services. Great passer, good in the air and a decent finisher |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jun 9, 2022 19:52:55 GMT
Shearer Kane Rooney Owen.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 9, 2022 20:02:42 GMT
All fantastic at their very peak. All four were absolute dynamite. Not much to choose between Shearer 93, Owen 98, Rooney 04 and Kane 17.
If you could cherry-pick a certain vintage, rather than judge them over their whole career, I might be tempted to go for Rooney 04.
I really thought anything was possible for him then.
Same with Owen in 98, although he was more one-dimensional. He was just so confident. If he wouldn't have got that hamstring injury, who knows how his career would have developed. He gets so much disrespect though, given how good he was. Bit of a pain in the arse on TV, but a hell of a player in his early years.
You'd have to give it to Shearer overall, despite his big chunk of penalties, his longevity was amazing, even when injury forced him to adapt.
Don't know where to stick peak-Kane in.
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Post by nonameface on Jun 9, 2022 20:03:13 GMT
Shearer Kane Rooney Owen. This. Owen was so overrated, Liverpool were immediately better when he left too. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 9, 2022 20:05:53 GMT
Shearer Kane Rooney Owen. This. Owen was so overrated, Liverpool were immediately better when he left too. I think there's 2 different Owens. Pre-1999, and post-1999 After that first bad hamstring, he was never the same. His peak was a really short window. theathletic.com/1728355/2020/04/12/rebooted-the-phenomenon-that-was-michael-owen-before-his-hamstring-injury/The sound was like the cord of a crossbow snapping. Then a shriek. And a groan. Michael Owen was on Elland Road’s turf, a burning sensation spreading across the upper part of his right leg. The hamstring of that leg began to throb. He waved a hand towards Liverpool’s medical staff.
It was an injury, sustained 21 years ago today, that Owen thinks defined his career. He was just 19 and two seasons later he would be crowned as the European Footballer of the Year. Yet what happened in Leeds on April 12, 1999 hastened a deterioration of his abilities.
Considering his blistering pace, the hamstring was a vital instrument. If a footballer today sustained a tear as Owen did, surgery would have followed. Then, it was decided just a period of rehabilitation was necessary. The bulk of that time coincided with the summer, so he only missed 11 Liverpool games. There was no international tournament that year. To the waiting world, it may have seemed like the injury wasn’t quite so serious. Owen would play just three less games for Liverpool in 1999-2000 than the campaign before. Yet he would score 11 goals fewer — a sign that something wasn’t quite right.
“I had to adjust the way I played,” Owen told me at his stables in 2015, as he reflected on how his life had changed since those early years in Liverpool and England shirts where the possibilities seemed endless and he was regarded as one of the most exciting young footballers in the world.
After 1999, Owen did not possess two sets of fully functioning hamstrings. He would run across a pitch for the rest of his career with three tendons in one of his hamstrings and two in the other. One of the hamstring muscles on his right leg also ruptured before reattaching itself in the wrong position. It meant that he suffered from an imbalance, with one limb being considerably stronger than the other.
His body clock was ticking faster than other footballers. By the age of 26, Owen’s time as an elite sportsman was really over. It was impossible for it to be any other way. His decline was gradual. If there is more power in one leg, the other leg has to work harder to keep up. This places more pressure on other parts of the body. Owen would suffer groin and calf injuries and then, in 2006, a knee injury that proved catastrophic. “You try to kid yourself at the beginning and tell yourself everything was going to be OK but there was no doubt my physical ability was on the wane for a long time and my career was slowly being taken away from me,”
"I couldn’t sprint as fast as I needed or wanted to. I began to feel less invincible. I realised my powers were slipping.”
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Post by whatsashig on Jun 9, 2022 20:13:59 GMT
As it stands today, alphabetically
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Post by werrington on Jun 9, 2022 20:14:31 GMT
Robbie Fowler was so unlucky to have Shearer, Andy Cole and Sheringham as competition as he was up there with them
Speak to any Liverpool supporter and they’ll pick Fowler over Owen everyday of the week
He really was the complete striker and a left foot to boot
But if we are talking the 4 above it’s joint RooneyShearer, Kane then Owen
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 20:14:58 GMT
Shearer, Kane, Rooney, Owen.
Owen was exceptional until he lost that blistering pace and didn't produce for as long as the others.
Rooney not as good a finisher as the others but scorer of great goals. Great football brain and team player and all round player.
Kane on pure numbers looks the best but just not as good as Shearer in my book. Drops too deep too often for England but still comes up with the goals.
Shearer great striker of a ball, great in the air, strong as a bull, brave. My favourite ever non Stoke player. What would his numbers have been like if he'd gone Man U instead of Newcastle?
I think you could make a case for any of them except Owen to be the best. All very different.
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Post by whatsashig on Jun 9, 2022 20:17:03 GMT
K doing it consistently like no other
O argy goal at a nutty early age
R should have loads more but suffocated
S proven but a bit like R
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 20:19:10 GMT
All fantastic at their very peak. All four were absolute dynamite. Not much to choose between Shearer 93, Owen 98, Rooney 04 and Kane 17. If you could cherry-pick a certain vintage, rather than judge them over their whole career, I might be tempted to go for Rooney 04. I really thought anything was possible for him then. Same with Owen in 98, although he was more one-dimensional. He was just so confident. If he wouldn't have got that hamstring injury, who knows how his career would have developed. He gets so much disrespect though, given how good he was. Bit of a pain in the arse on TV, but a hell of a player in his early years. You'd have to give it to Shearer overall, despite his big chunk of penalties, his longevity was amazing, even when injury forced him to adapt. Don't know where to stick peak-Kane in. Pretty much nail on the head. Certain players in small periods maybe better, but Shearer is the King. What a player he was. |
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Post by nonameface on Jun 9, 2022 20:29:01 GMT
This. Owen was so overrated, Liverpool were immediately better when he left too. I think there's 2 different Owens. Pre-1999, and post-1999 After that first bad hamstring, he was never the same. His peak was a really short window. theathletic.com/1728355/2020/04/12/rebooted-the-phenomenon-that-was-michael-owen-before-his-hamstring-injury/The sound was like the cord of a crossbow snapping. Then a shriek. And a groan. Michael Owen was on Elland Road’s turf, a burning sensation spreading across the upper part of his right leg. The hamstring of that leg began to throb. He waved a hand towards Liverpool’s medical staff.
It was an injury, sustained 21 years ago today, that Owen thinks defined his career. He was just 19 and two seasons later he would be crowned as the European Footballer of the Year. Yet what happened in Leeds on April 12, 1999 hastened a deterioration of his abilities.
Considering his blistering pace, the hamstring was a vital instrument. If a footballer today sustained a tear as Owen did, surgery would have followed. Then, it was decided just a period of rehabilitation was necessary. The bulk of that time coincided with the summer, so he only missed 11 Liverpool games. There was no international tournament that year. To the waiting world, it may have seemed like the injury wasn’t quite so serious. Owen would play just three less games for Liverpool in 1999-2000 than the campaign before. Yet he would score 11 goals fewer — a sign that something wasn’t quite right.
“I had to adjust the way I played,” Owen told me at his stables in 2015, as he reflected on how his life had changed since those early years in Liverpool and England shirts where the possibilities seemed endless and he was regarded as one of the most exciting young footballers in the world.
After 1999, Owen did not possess two sets of fully functioning hamstrings. He would run across a pitch for the rest of his career with three tendons in one of his hamstrings and two in the other. One of the hamstring muscles on his right leg also ruptured before reattaching itself in the wrong position. It meant that he suffered from an imbalance, with one limb being considerably stronger than the other.
His body clock was ticking faster than other footballers. By the age of 26, Owen’s time as an elite sportsman was really over. It was impossible for it to be any other way. His decline was gradual. If there is more power in one leg, the other leg has to work harder to keep up. This places more pressure on other parts of the body. Owen would suffer groin and calf injuries and then, in 2006, a knee injury that proved catastrophic. “You try to kid yourself at the beginning and tell yourself everything was going to be OK but there was no doubt my physical ability was on the wane for a long time and my career was slowly being taken away from me,”
"I couldn’t sprint as fast as I needed or wanted to. I began to feel less invincible. I realised my powers were slipping.”
He had some of his better goalscoring seasons after then though. Defenders just realised if they dropped off he wasn't much of a threat, possibly compounded by his injury. His 98 goal versus Argentina was outrageous mind. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 9, 2022 20:33:04 GMT
I think there's 2 different Owens. Pre-1999, and post-1999 After that first bad hamstring, he was never the same. His peak was a really short window. theathletic.com/1728355/2020/04/12/rebooted-the-phenomenon-that-was-michael-owen-before-his-hamstring-injury/The sound was like the cord of a crossbow snapping. Then a shriek. And a groan. Michael Owen was on Elland Road’s turf, a burning sensation spreading across the upper part of his right leg. The hamstring of that leg began to throb. He waved a hand towards Liverpool’s medical staff.
It was an injury, sustained 21 years ago today, that Owen thinks defined his career. He was just 19 and two seasons later he would be crowned as the European Footballer of the Year. Yet what happened in Leeds on April 12, 1999 hastened a deterioration of his abilities.
Considering his blistering pace, the hamstring was a vital instrument. If a footballer today sustained a tear as Owen did, surgery would have followed. Then, it was decided just a period of rehabilitation was necessary. The bulk of that time coincided with the summer, so he only missed 11 Liverpool games. There was no international tournament that year. To the waiting world, it may have seemed like the injury wasn’t quite so serious. Owen would play just three less games for Liverpool in 1999-2000 than the campaign before. Yet he would score 11 goals fewer — a sign that something wasn’t quite right.
“I had to adjust the way I played,” Owen told me at his stables in 2015, as he reflected on how his life had changed since those early years in Liverpool and England shirts where the possibilities seemed endless and he was regarded as one of the most exciting young footballers in the world.
After 1999, Owen did not possess two sets of fully functioning hamstrings. He would run across a pitch for the rest of his career with three tendons in one of his hamstrings and two in the other. One of the hamstring muscles on his right leg also ruptured before reattaching itself in the wrong position. It meant that he suffered from an imbalance, with one limb being considerably stronger than the other.
His body clock was ticking faster than other footballers. By the age of 26, Owen’s time as an elite sportsman was really over. It was impossible for it to be any other way. His decline was gradual. If there is more power in one leg, the other leg has to work harder to keep up. This places more pressure on other parts of the body. Owen would suffer groin and calf injuries and then, in 2006, a knee injury that proved catastrophic. “You try to kid yourself at the beginning and tell yourself everything was going to be OK but there was no doubt my physical ability was on the wane for a long time and my career was slowly being taken away from me,”
"I couldn’t sprint as fast as I needed or wanted to. I began to feel less invincible. I realised my powers were slipping.”
He had some of his better goalscoring seasons after then though. Defenders just realised if they dropped off he wasn't much of a threat, possibly compounded by his injury. His 98 goal versus Argentina was outrageous mind. He scored some incredible goals which are easily forgotten |
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Post by nonameface on Jun 9, 2022 20:34:31 GMT
He had some of his better goalscoring seasons after then though. Defenders just realised if they dropped off he wasn't much of a threat, possibly compounded by his injury. His 98 goal versus Argentina was outrageous mind. He scored some incredible goals which are easily forgotten yeah I've forgotten those. |
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Post by Veritas on Jun 9, 2022 20:34:38 GMT
Greaves easily the best even if he is not on the list
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 9, 2022 20:34:46 GMT
Robbie Fowler was so unlucky to have Shearer, Andy Cole and Sheringham as competition as he was up there with them Speak to any Liverpool supporter and they’ll pick Fowler over Owen everyday of the week He really was the complete striker and a left foot to boot But if we are talking the 4 above it’s joint RooneyShearer, Kane then Owen Fowler was extremely unlucky, what a finisher and scored every kind of goal. Similar in a way to Defoe, another very unlucky not to have far more caps |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 9, 2022 20:44:40 GMT
As it stands today, alphabetically First names, I presume! |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jun 9, 2022 20:48:23 GMT
Rooney is a level above them all for me, not often you see a striker run a game like he used to. And the numbers he reached when Fergie told him to stay in the box were phenomenal.
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Post by fazza90 on Jun 9, 2022 21:01:23 GMT
Depends what you want from the striker, if it's pure finishing then Shearer, pace Owen, hard work & creativity Rooney, link-up play & off-the ball work Kane.
Kane doesn't excite me at all but he's still a great striker.
Shearer > Rooney > Owen > Kane for me.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 9, 2022 21:05:28 GMT
Shearer - Did it all really, inside the area, outside the area, with his feet, with his head, penalties, free-kicks, he had the lot. Plus he did it over a long period at 'lesser' clubs. (With 'lesser' talents around him).
Rooney - There was a time where he genuinely could have gone on to be the greatest player ever, that obviously didn't happen (Hence him being behind Shearer in this list) But for a few years he was magical.
Owen - Another whose light shone all too bright all too briefly. He was more 'one dimensional' than the two above, though.
Kane - Can't fault what he has done but he's never really struck me as anyone who did anything out of the ordinary, he just kinda scores the goals he should be scoring & that's about it.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 9, 2022 21:20:52 GMT
The last twelve months Kane has become even better. He drops deep now to take his markers and create space for others. With that his passing has become a big part of his game.
A four are very good but Kane could become the most bestest
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 9, 2022 21:23:39 GMT
Robbie Fowler was so unlucky to have Shearer, Andy Cole and Sheringham as competition as he was up there with them Speak to any Liverpool supporter and they’ll pick Fowler over Owen everyday of the week He really was the complete striker and a left foot to boot But if we are talking the 4 above it’s joint RooneyShearer, Kane then Owen As an instinctive finisher Fowler was the best of them all. As he emerged Shearer and Sheringham were ideal though and Robbie never seemed to get the breaks after they broke up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2022 21:25:58 GMT
Rooney is a level above them all for me, not often you see a striker run a game like he used to. And the numbers he reached when Fergie told him to stay in the box were phenomenal. Rooney was an outstanding player. He could have prolonged his career and been at the top for much longer had he looked after himself. As it was, he was burnt out whilst still in his 20s. Look at the likes of Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic still performing at the highest level in their late 30s/early 40s. Proper pros and unbelievable talents. To sustain that level for that long is on another level. That's why I'd have Shearer at the very top of this list. Longevity. |
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Post by lordb on Jun 9, 2022 21:27:08 GMT
If Shearer hadn't had his injuries there wouldn't be a debate
He had a fair bit of pace before his injuries
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 9, 2022 21:30:54 GMT
If Shearer hadn't had his injuries there wouldn't be a debate He had a fair bit of pace before his injuries I can't believe Shearer doesn't regret leaving England too soon. |
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