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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 26, 2022 17:15:55 GMT
Our best keeper since Begovic
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Lee Grant
May 26, 2022 17:16:29 GMT
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Post by theonlooker on May 26, 2022 17:16:29 GMT
Without a doubt a Carto special, and they were as rare as Hen's Teeth. A bit frustrating that a keeper of his quality ended up picking up cones at Man Utd, but fair play to him. I would have done the same.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 26, 2022 17:17:01 GMT
He was ok. Like many since I think he benefitted from Butland playing so badly.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 26, 2022 17:19:36 GMT
Best of luck to him, made some great saves.
Seem to remember him pulling off some blinders away at Man U
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Post by scfc75 on May 26, 2022 17:22:00 GMT
Best of luck to him, made some great saves. Seem to remember him pulling off some blinders away at Man U One of the best individual performances by a keeper in our Premier League years. Up there with Simonsen at Spurs.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 26, 2022 17:23:29 GMT
Had a great season with us All the best to him in his new coaching role at Ipswich
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 17:28:46 GMT
All the best. Did decent for us. We could do with finding another steady GK if we're to do better next season.
As a side note, it's a bit puzzling to me that wikipedia uses Apps/Goals even for goalkeepers. Surely Apps/Clean Sheets is a far more useful metric?
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Post by scfc75 on May 26, 2022 18:02:06 GMT
All the best. Did decent for us. We could do with finding another steady GK if we're to do better next season. As a side note, it's a bit puzzling to me that wikipedia uses Apps/Goals even for goalkeepers. Surely Apps/Clean Sheets is a far more useful metric? Not if you’re Begovic
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May 26, 2022 18:02:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 18:02:56 GMT
Hadn't realised he played for England through all the age groups until I just checked his wiki.
Seems to have had two good spells at Burnley & Sheff Wed over six seasons as first choice.
Did well for us. Good luck to him.
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Post by ibby on May 26, 2022 18:39:12 GMT
Joins Ipswich first team coach.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on May 26, 2022 18:44:15 GMT
All the best. Did decent for us. We could do with finding another steady GK if we're to do better next season. As a side note, it's a bit puzzling to me that wikipedia uses Apps/Goals even for goalkeepers. Surely Apps/Clean Sheets is a far more useful metric? Not if you’re Begovic José Luis Chilavert was probably still banging the goals in when Wikipedia started.
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Post by chad on May 26, 2022 18:46:37 GMT
Best of luck to him, made some great saves. Seem to remember him pulling off some blinders away at Man U One of the best individual performances by a keeper in our Premier League years. Up there with Simonsen at Spurs. Definitely. But for all his later faults Butlands performance at Newcastle tops them both for me
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Post by stormin on May 27, 2022 6:20:48 GMT
Our best keeper since Begovic He and Joe Allen's goals saved Stoke from being relegated that season, that is way Hughes should have gone at the end of that season.
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Post by stokie223 on May 27, 2022 8:34:50 GMT
I can't believe how underwhelming his signing felt, and how superbly he played for us. Both games against Utd that season (I think) he was class. A few excellent saves against Zlatan.
He quite rightly won our POTY, not that he had much competition. He never let us down though and I will certainly remember him fondly. Not sure if he was a free or just signed for a pittance, completely expecting him to be a bench-warmer and then goes on to be integral to keeping us up. Class.
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May 27, 2022 8:47:11 GMT
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Post by Roger Everyone on May 27, 2022 8:47:11 GMT
He was ok. Like many since I think he benefitted from Butland playing so badly. I agree he was OK. Was he really that good? We will never really know, I think he just hit an amazing run of form for us. And then he pulled off a great move to utd and never really played much again. A great end to a career, not slipping down the league with different teams. Getting out at the perfect time while his playing days are so fondly remembered. Top bloke
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Post by Pugsley on May 27, 2022 8:59:36 GMT
Is this a serious thread?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 27, 2022 9:47:12 GMT
Is this a serious thread? It's amazing how skewed peoples views because of how shit Butland was.
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May 27, 2022 10:17:16 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on May 27, 2022 10:17:16 GMT
Is this a serious thread? Great servant. Should get him back on coaching side. Knows the club....
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Post by walrus on May 27, 2022 11:54:22 GMT
Is this a serious thread? It's amazing how skewed peoples views because of how shit Butland was. But Butland went to shit after Grant left. Grant came in when Butland was injured playing for England having been on great form for Stoke. Grant was excellent and rightly won player of the season. When Grant came in we’d had a really good run of goalkeepers: Sorensen, Begovic, then early Butland. If anything fans would be liable to judge him more harshly in that company rather than more favourably.
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Post by lstokie on May 27, 2022 12:04:26 GMT
It's amazing how skewed peoples views because of how shit Butland was. But Butland went to shit after Grant left. Grant came in when Butland was injured playing for England having been on great form for Stoke. Grant was excellent and rightly won player of the season. When Grant came in we’d had a really good run of goalkeepers: Sorensen, Begovic, then early Butland. If anything fans would be liable to judge him more harshly in that company rather than more favourably. I think this is just another case of Bayern trying to rewrite history for whatever reason. Apparently Crouchy was a 'terrible' signing for us but still managed 260 odd appearances lol
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 27, 2022 12:07:32 GMT
But Butland went to shit after Grant left. Grant came in when Butland was injured playing for England having been on great form for Stoke. Grant was excellent and rightly won player of the season. When Grant came in we’d had a really good run of goalkeepers: Sorensen, Begovic, then early Butland. If anything fans would be liable to judge him more harshly in that company rather than more favourably. I think this is just another case of Bayern trying to rewrite history for whatever reason. Apparently Crouchy was a 'terrible' signing for us but still managed 260 odd appearances lol Joe Allen has probably done similar and he's an atrocious signing for us. I'm not sure what the amount games played has to do with anything? Grant was ok. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by tachyon on May 27, 2022 12:07:36 GMT
From 2014 to relegation, both Begovic and Butland were well above average shot stoppers.
Lee Grant wasn't quite up to their standard, but he was still better than the Premier League average and was exceptional in the first 40 or so shots on target he faced for Stoke.
Given our recent alternatives to Butland were Given (very poor, but past it) and Haugaard (just terrible, 11 goals allowed from just 5.4 xG2 for Stoke), it's demonstrably true that Lee Grant kept Stoke in the Premier League in 2016-17.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2022 17:17:06 GMT
All the best. Did decent for us. We could do with finding another steady GK if we're to do better next season. As a side note, it's a bit puzzling to me that wikipedia uses Apps/Goals even for goalkeepers. Surely Apps/Clean Sheets is a far more useful metric? Not if you’re Begovic Wikipedia highest scoring keepersOr rogerio ceni - 131 goals!
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May 27, 2022 21:41:15 GMT
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Post by fortressbritannia on May 27, 2022 21:41:15 GMT
Our best keeper since Begovic He and Joe Allen's goals saved Stoke from being relegated that season, that is way Hughes should have gone at the end of that season. This. Allen and Grant performances papered over a lot of cracks that were starting to appear. Grant was in great form that season and kept us in a lot of games. Allen was shoehorned into a much more advanced role, which was not a long term option
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 27, 2022 21:42:49 GMT
He and Joe Allen's goals saved Stoke from being relegated that season, that is way Hughes should have gone at the end of that season. This. Allen and Grant performances papered over a lot of cracks that were starting to appear. Grant was in great form that season and kept us in a lot of games. Allen was shoehorned into a much more advanced role, which was not a long term option And was crap there. He scored 6 goals.
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May 27, 2022 22:41:42 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 27, 2022 22:41:42 GMT
He was ok. Like many since I think he benefitted from Butland playing so badly. Who are these many?
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Post by marylandstoke on May 27, 2022 23:38:17 GMT
Is this a serious thread? Great servant. Should get him back on coaching side. Knows the club.... Cheeky monkey
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Post by Gods on May 28, 2022 0:11:38 GMT
Is this a serious thread? Great servant. Should get him back on coaching side. Knows the club.... 'Servant' might be stretching it, he made exactly 31 appearances for us! Ignore, just realised you were joshing with us!
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