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Post by gawa on May 22, 2022 23:20:25 GMT
With the following heading out of the championship:
Fulham Bournemouth Nottingham Forest/Huddersfield Barnsley Derby Peterborough
And the following joining the championship:
Norwich Watford Burnley Wigan Rotterham Sunderland
Which of the two seasons do you think has the strongest competition?
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Post by banksy1art on May 22, 2022 23:31:33 GMT
With the following heading out of the championship: Fulham Bournemouth Nottingham Forest/Huddersfield Barnsley Derby Peterborough And the following joining the championship: Norwich Watford Burnley Wigan Rotterham Sunderland Which of the two seasons do you think has the strongest completion? definitely seems weaker regarding club size, but it’s what’s on the pitch that counts. I guess we’ll see
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Post by cvillestokie on May 23, 2022 0:02:38 GMT
With the following heading out of the championship: Fulham Bournemouth Nottingham Forest/Huddersfield Barnsley Derby Peterborough And the following joining the championship: Norwich Watford Burnley Wigan Rotterham Sunderland Which of the two seasons do you think has the strongest completion? definitely seems weaker regarding club size, but it’s what’s on the pitch that counts. I guess we’ll see About the same. The teams that came down will try to go back up alongside those who came down last year and didn’t make it back up. Those that came up will compete for best of the worst alongside the narrow escapees of this season. The rest of us will do much of a muchness.
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Post by PotterLog on May 23, 2022 2:28:16 GMT
I think there’s very little difference in the overall “strength” of any division from season to season, no matter which teams are in it.
Next season the Champo will be, by and large, about the same level of complete wankness as it was just.
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Post by thevoid on May 23, 2022 5:31:02 GMT
With the following heading out of the championship: Fulham Bournemouth Nottingham Forest/Huddersfield Barnsley Derby Peterborough And the following joining the championship: Norwich Watford Burnley Wigan Rotterham Sunderland Which of the two seasons do you think has the strongest competition? Rotterham? If Feyenoord are in the Championship that's one promotion place sorted 😎
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 23, 2022 6:32:54 GMT
I sense early excuses being made 😂
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 6:49:50 GMT
Not as strong at the top Not as weak at the bottom Is anyone due a points deduction?
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Post by theonlooker on May 23, 2022 6:52:02 GMT
Not as strong at the top Not as weak at the bottom Is anyone due a points deduction? Agree with that. Will be very competitive in the bottom half of the league all the way up to the top 2. Probably the most open division for quite some time. I think the next season could see more surprises in the top 6 than ever before. Not sure I fancy the three relegated clubs at all to make a dent in the league as much as Fulham did.
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Post by southcoaststokie on May 23, 2022 7:18:19 GMT
Honestly don’t think the teams coming down this year are as strong, think all 3 may struggle to go back up, Norwich and Watford were down weeks ago, only Burnley made it to the last day, who knows how they may get on, this one could be our year 😀
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Post by FullerMagic on May 23, 2022 7:27:37 GMT
Norwich, Watford and Burnley look as weak as any relegated, soon-to-be-parachute-cashed-up teams have for a while. But the parachute money always gives tham a big chance unless you let Gary Rowett go on a drunken Supermarket Sweep
Norwich in a bit of disarray with a sizeable anti-Smith section who think he did worse than Farke, and already fully turned on their Director of Football.
Burnley look to be in all kinds of trouble, with no manager and a massive debt to be repaid over the summer. They've got players to sell like Collins, McNeil, Pope that should get them a lot of cash in, but they'll need a big rebuild and the choice of manager will be key.
Watford? Who knows. They always seem to muddle through, but they're trying to go down the 'progressive football' route with an untried manager. So could go wrong.
I'm struggling to pick a favourite. West Brom looked as bad as us for the second half of the season and Bruce is already unpopular. They're going to need a successful and pretty major rebuild.
Can Hudders (if they stay down) or Luton turn water into wine again?
The likes of Sheff Utd, Forest (if they stay down) and Boro will probably be top 6.
Swansea finished the season okay, but not a sure thing to be up there.
It's wide open - as usual. Looks like hardly anyone will be spending any money, so it's your Bosmans and loans against our Bosmans and loans unless anyone sells anyone for really big money to give themselves a bit of flexibility.
m.skybet.com/football/sky-bet-championship/event/29301863 Watford 13/2 Norwich 7/1 West Brom 8/1 Burnley 10/1 Sheffield Utd 10/1 Middlesbrough 12/1 Swansea 16/1 Blackburn 20/1 QPR 20/1 Stoke 20/1 Sunderland 20/1 Hull 22/1 Coventry 25/1 Luton 25/1 Cardiff 28/1 Millwall 28/1 Wigan 28/1 Birmingham 33/1 Blackpool 33/1 Preston 33/1 Reading 33/1 Bristol City 40/1 Rotherham 66/1
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 23, 2022 7:41:18 GMT
A sea of shite. You’d have to be seriously shit to get into relegation trouble but over and above that just about anything could and probably will happen. What a brilliant league, if only the football was better it’s how all leagues should be. Everyone can have a dream at the start of the season without being certifiable.
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Post by xchpotter on May 23, 2022 8:00:03 GMT
I sense early excuses being made 😂 My thoughts too. I think we could fill this league with League 1 clubs and I’m not sure we would shine.
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Post by shane071085 on May 23, 2022 8:11:22 GMT
if norwich keep pukki they will piss it like last time burnley will be around the top 6 we wont stand a chance of getting anywhere near playoffs
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Post by JoeinOz on May 23, 2022 8:21:03 GMT
Watford and Norwich are the most boring relegated teams ever 😴
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 23, 2022 8:34:50 GMT
I mean this is part of Norwich's business plan isnt it.
They look wank in the Prem and unbeatable in the Championship.
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Post by scfc75 on May 23, 2022 8:37:22 GMT
I mean this is part of Norwich's business plan isnt it. They look wank in the Prem and unbeatable in the Championship. They need their own league inbetween the two. Maybe stick them in with Fulham.
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Post by gawa on May 23, 2022 8:50:22 GMT
if norwich keep pukki they will piss it like last time burnley will be around the top 6 we wont stand a chance of getting anywhere near playoffs I can’t see pukki having as great an impact as he has done in their last 2 promotion campaigns. Don’t get me wrong still think he will hit 20 goals but can’t see another 30 goal season from him. Personally also think the overall strength of the league will be slightly weaker next season. Sunderland I can see being more competitive than expected. Wigan/Rotterdam are the L1/championship version of Watford/Norwich. Burnley will lose key players and struggle. And Derby are a stronger side than any team which came up in their place.
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Post by nottsover60 on May 23, 2022 8:53:13 GMT
Norwich and Watford, although with different managers have made a habit of going straight back up and I don't see any reason why things will be massively different. The club and players have seen and done the Championship and certainly Championship defenders can't handle Pukki. Burnley are an unknown and a lot depends on their manager, who seems to have lost his initial impact, and squad. Sunderland you would imagine will be competing nearer the top than the bottom and I think that might be true of Wigan. I imagine there is not going to be any outstanding teams or particularly weak teams so it will be even tighter than this year.
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Post by skip on May 23, 2022 8:53:28 GMT
Pukki must be bored to tears at Norwich. I mean, stick in loads of goals to get you up, and then stick in a fair few goals in the Premier League that amount to nothing. If I was him, I'd bugger off somewhere else.
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Post by wuzza on May 23, 2022 8:56:32 GMT
It will , as normal , be much of a muchness. If any team has a degree of quality they will waltz it as per Fulham. Other than that it will be the best organised , best motivated , most pragmatic and luckiest with injuries that are up there.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 9:18:56 GMT
It will be as competitive as it always has been. It's the 2nd division of English football, the quality of the football is the same as its always been. All the people saying it's wank, tinpot etc haven't got a clue what they're talking about.
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Post by Gods on May 23, 2022 9:37:19 GMT
What do we have in our locker?
We know the division now, it will be our 5th attempt to escape. The manager and assistant manager know the division as well. We have financial security courtesy of our ownership. We have no parachute payments but are rid of our high cost Prem legacy.
We may lack the real quality needed to tear up this division but with good organisation and a slice of luck we should be able to get involved in and around the play off places.
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Post by spitthedog on May 23, 2022 9:39:08 GMT
It will be as competitive as it always has been. It's the 2nd division of English football, the quality of the football is the same as its always been. All the people saying it's wank, tinpot etc haven't got a clue what they're talking about. Agreed. I find all the comments about the wankness curious. Is this based on any noticeable deterioration of the quality of 2nd Tier football over the years? Or is 2nd Tier football in other countries a higher standard? I'm not sure what the expectation is here?
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 9:43:45 GMT
It will be as competitive as it always has been. It's the 2nd division of English football, the quality of the football is the same as its always been. All the people saying it's wank, tinpot etc haven't got a clue what they're talking about. Agreed. I find all the comments about the wankness curious. Is this based on any noticeable deterioration of the quality of 2nd Tier football over the years? Or is 2nd Tier football in other countries a higher standard? I'm not sure what the expectation is here? It's the strongest second tier in the world That doesn't mean its amazing
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 9:57:23 GMT
Agreed. I find all the comments about the wankness curious. Is this based on any noticeable deterioration of the quality of 2nd Tier football over the years? Or is 2nd Tier football in other countries a higher standard? I'm not sure what the expectation is here? It's the strongest second tier in the world That doesn't mean its amazing You're right, but it's pretty far from a wank standard.
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 9:58:30 GMT
It's the strongest second tier in the world That doesn't mean its amazing You're right, but it's pretty far from a wank standard. Indeed
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 23, 2022 11:33:14 GMT
The 3 coming down,ain't as good as those who have gone up. The 3 coming up,are on a par with those relegated.
If we carry on in the same way we did this season,we will finish 3 places higher.😋
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Post by thevoid on May 23, 2022 11:34:15 GMT
Watford and Norwich are the most boring relegated teams ever 😴 And Rotherham and Wigan the most boring promoted sides
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Post by dutchstokie on May 23, 2022 11:45:04 GMT
With the following heading out of the championship: Fulham Bournemouth Nottingham Forest/Huddersfield Barnsley Derby Peterborough And the following joining the championship: Norwich Watford Burnley Wigan Rotterham Sunderland Which of the two seasons do you think has the strongest competition? If we can find a striker who can bag 20-25 goals in a season, then we're in with a shout. The dross we have at the moment just cant cut it......... Alfie May at Cheltenham seems to stick them away regularly...... Heres a link with top-scorers in the bundesliga 2 www.bundesliga.com/de/2bundesliga/statistiken/spieler/toreSurely we can splash a few sheckels on one of these..... Theres the difference to promotion and wallowing around in the Championship........
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Post by theonlooker on May 23, 2022 11:47:25 GMT
With the following heading out of the championship: Fulham Bournemouth Nottingham Forest/Huddersfield Barnsley Derby Peterborough And the following joining the championship: Norwich Watford Burnley Wigan Rotterham Sunderland Which of the two seasons do you think has the strongest competition? If we can find a striker who can bag 20-25 goals in a season, then we're in with a shout. The dross we have at the moment just cant cut it......... Alfie May at Cheltenham seems to stick them away regularly...... Heres a link with top-scorers in the bundesliga 2 www.bundesliga.com/de/2bundesliga/statistiken/spieler/toreSurely we can splash a few sheckels on one of these..... Theres the difference to promotion and wallowing around in the Championship........ Robert Glatzel second top scorer with 22. 7 in 30 and 3 in 21 at this level for Cardiff. Shows what a minefield it is.
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