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Post by stokieinlondon on May 9, 2022 11:18:42 GMT
Left the club as their contracts are up.
Thanks lads, you had good moments in a Stoke shirt. All the best for the future.
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Post by spitthedog on May 9, 2022 11:24:17 GMT
I wish them all the best.
But it's a very good decision not to offer them any extension.
The test is going to be whether we can bring in better options.
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Post by Fred Merger on May 9, 2022 11:25:52 GMT
Chester next please 😎
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Post by cvillestokie on May 9, 2022 11:28:20 GMT
I’d have personally kept Smith. I’ll be interested to see who we are going to bring in who gets us more assists at right wing back next season.
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Post by spitthedog on May 9, 2022 11:31:04 GMT
I’d have personally kept Smith. I’ll be interested to see who we are going to bring in who gets us more assists at right wing back next season. I think this also depends on the system we use. We have been too overdependent on the wing backs imo. They have got the highest assists generally because it's the only way we look to get through teams. |
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 9, 2022 11:33:56 GMT
I’d have personally kept Smith. I’ll be interested to see who we are going to bring in who gets us more assists at right wing back next season. I think this also depends on the system we use. We have been too overdependent on the wing backs imo. They have got the highest assists generally because it's the only way we look to get through teams. One of the reasons we were overdependent on it is you couldn't really play Smith in a back four in the end as he was a pretty awful defender and we don't really have a left back fit for the job either. |
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Post by spitthedog on May 9, 2022 11:44:52 GMT
I think this also depends on the system we use. We have been too overdependent on the wing backs imo. They have got the highest assists generally because it's the only way we look to get through teams. One of the reasons we were overdependent on it is you couldn't really play Smith in a back four in the end as he was a pretty awful defender and we don't really have a left back fit for the job either. Absolutely, that's my reading of it too. We didn't recruit the personnel to play it any other way. On the other side, you cant depend on Fox who goes AWOL while defending and has been mostly injured so that side is also limited for choice. Poor recruitment really. I'm not a massive fan of Tymon but he deserves a bloody medal for the job he's been asked to do and to his credit has improved and given everything. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 9, 2022 11:47:45 GMT
Fletchers legs have well and truly gone at this level and Smith had one good game in ten.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 9, 2022 11:53:40 GMT
Getting rid of the big earners
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 9, 2022 11:57:06 GMT
The test is going to be whether we can bring in better options. I'm not holding my breath under the current regime. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 9, 2022 16:18:12 GMT
So glad we’ve not offered Smith an extension absolute momentum vacuum. Assists were misleading, his stats from open play were shite.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 9, 2022 16:22:10 GMT
I’d have personally kept Smith. I’ll be interested to see who we are going to bring in who gets us more assists at right wing back next season. I think this also depends on the system we use. We have been too overdependent on the wing backs imo. They have got the highest assists generally because it's the only way we look to get through teams. We’re not going to play more than one system. Few teams do. The wing back system is likely here to stay. How many teams consistently play one way at home and another way away? I don’t know any that do in a league with as many games as the Championship. There’s simply just not enough time to train it. |
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Post by chad on May 9, 2022 16:41:57 GMT
Both good pros but we won’t be getting out of this division anytime soon with the likes of these two Chester, Fox and a few others. Clearing the decks for incoming but I don’t hold much hope of there being massive improvements 😡
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Post by lordb on May 9, 2022 17:10:41 GMT
Getting rid of the big earners Fletcher wasn't on big money Presume Smith was |
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Post by leicspotter on May 9, 2022 17:11:26 GMT
Thanks and good luck for the future
Good, honest pros.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 17:14:19 GMT
Looking at Vokes, Fletcher can still do a good job at that level
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 17:19:13 GMT
I can get down with wishing all the best to Smith. A good pro who, despite his limitations, always gave the impression he was doing his best & had some memorable moments as well.
Fletcher on the other hand; maybe I'm in a bitter minority here but I think he's been a joke for a while and won't be getting well wishes from me. "His legs have gone" I'm sorry but far too many times this season he's fucked up a move by going for a fancy flick that comes off a very low % of the time when a simpler pass would've been successful a very high % of the time. My cynical perception is that he's not been playing with the best interest of the team in mind, but playing with a view to creating a few youtube highlights to give himself something to look back on when he's finally retired. I genuinely believe that's been his mentality for a while and I'm glad to see the back of him.
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Post by karl on May 9, 2022 17:42:05 GMT
How come other clubs announce who is leaving in one go and we seem to let it drag out?
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Post by lordb on May 9, 2022 17:43:04 GMT
How come other clubs announce who is leaving in one go and we seem to let it drag out? Indeed one announcement is better |
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Post by karl on May 9, 2022 17:43:33 GMT
How come other clubs announce who is leaving in one go and we seem to let it drag out? Sure I remember hearing the assistant manager say in an interview that they know who would be leaving. |
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Post by questionable on May 9, 2022 17:46:25 GMT
I’d have personally kept Smith. I’ll be interested to see who we are going to bring in who gets us more assists at right wing back next season. Chester earmarked I’ve heard for the WB role, heard it here first 😳 |
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Post by heworksardtho on May 9, 2022 17:47:26 GMT
Getting rid of the big earners Fletcher wasn't on big money Presume Smith was £18 grand a week I heard |
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Post by J-Roar on May 9, 2022 17:48:42 GMT
How come other clubs announce who is leaving in one go and we seem to let it drag out? Perhaps they are negotiating with the others |
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Post by karl on May 9, 2022 17:49:35 GMT
I’d have personally kept Smith. I’ll be interested to see who we are going to bring in who gets us more assists at right wing back next season. Chester earmarked I’ve heard for the WB role, heard it here first 😳 Hope that's a joke 🤣 |
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Post by J-Roar on May 9, 2022 17:54:52 GMT
I’d have personally kept Smith. I’ll be interested to see who we are going to bring in who gets us more assists at right wing back next season. He was a great passer of responsibility who had an uncanny knack for dawdling just long enough on the ball for the opposition to get back into shape. |
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Post by lordb on May 9, 2022 17:56:37 GMT
Fletcher wasn't on big money Presume Smith was £18 grand a week I heard Smith? |
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Post by pmjh on May 9, 2022 18:09:41 GMT
How come other clubs announce who is leaving in one go and we seem to let it drag out? we used to always have a retained list and it was published in the Sentinel |
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Post by heworksardtho on May 9, 2022 18:23:57 GMT
£18 grand a week I heard Smith? Fletch |
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Post by mystokebadge on May 9, 2022 18:37:12 GMT
I thought Smith stated the season very well , getting to the line and putting the ball across the face of the goal .However he stopped beating his man and putting the ball into the box about xmas time, any way i wish both of them well for the future.
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Post by lordb on May 9, 2022 18:55:28 GMT
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