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Post by pieofpeter on Apr 25, 2022 18:05:38 GMT
Well done to him some people fit into clubs and not others. It was wrong place and moment for him at the time with the club being toxic as it was at the time. Still think who ever come into us it wouldn't have worked. Hope the go up now as would be nice see a club size of Luton in their with the likes of the shite and and Liverpool going to their ground.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 25, 2022 18:09:46 GMT
Reminds me a bit of when Mike Walker took Norwich to 3rd in the first Premier League season, went to Everton who were almost as bad then as they are now and struggled. Wrong club at the wrong time
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Post by duckling on Apr 25, 2022 21:13:42 GMT
Sometimes it seems that certain managers and clubs just have good synergy for inexplicable reasons. When the manager goes elsewhere, they can't replicate that success. Other examples are Moyes and Everton, though he is finding that success again with West Ham. I expect that Dyche will not be as successful at his next club as he was with Burnley. And yes, Pulis and Stoke.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 26, 2022 6:37:34 GMT
Another example- Eddie Howe at Burnley
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Post by NorwichStokie on Apr 26, 2022 8:16:07 GMT
EFL Manager of the Season? Matt Gray, manager of Sutton United. They were in the National League last season, and now they're in the League Two play-off spots for a chance to make it back-to-back promotions to League One. They also reached the final of the EFL (Papa John's) Trophy and were (literally) seconds away from beating Rotherham, who at the time sat at the top of the division above them.
If you want to look at achievement then look no further than this man.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 27, 2022 7:57:57 GMT
Great interview by Nathan Jones on Laura woods this morning , Came over as the eccentric leader he is but with real values around togetherness , spirit , wage structure and purpose
A few throws aways about owners not being billionaires and it meaning everything to Luton to get promoted where’s as other clubs he had been at its no big deal , and tellingly if we have a problem we throw work at it not budget , its not a club where we rely on the CEO or manager etc , its everyone , we recruit on desire ,
Good luck him he gave his all here and results dictated his departure but its a very telling insight about culture and the way the respective clubs were run at the time , he is and is going to be the very fine manager we thought he might be , personally i think we will be miles better long term for the departure of the previous chief executive , indeed already we are seeing the seeds of that in many areas but its looking lioke this iChat be a departure that says more about us than him
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 27, 2022 8:06:41 GMT
Great interview by Nathan Jones on Laura woods this morning , Came over as the eccentric leader he is but with real values around togetherness , spirit , wage structure and purpose A few throws aways about owners not being billionaires and it meaning everything to Luton to get promoted where’s as other clubs he had been at its no big deal , and tellingly if we have a problem we throw work at it not budget , its not a club where we rely on the CEO or manager etc , its everyone , we recruit on desire , Good luck him he gave his all here and results dictated his departure but its a very telling insight about culture and the way the respective clubs were run at the time , he is and is going to be the very fine manager we thought he might be , personally i think we will be miles better long term for the departure of the previous chief executive , indeed already we are seeing the seeds of that in many areas but its looking lioke this iChat be a departure that says more about us than him If he's implying it'd be no big deal for Stoke go up he's talking complete shit. He can do what he wants elsewhere but he was a calamity for us. And rewriting history makes him out to be a dick. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 27, 2022 9:14:01 GMT
Great interview by Nathan Jones on Laura woods this morning , Came over as the eccentric leader he is but with real values around togetherness , spirit , wage structure and purpose A few throws aways about owners not being billionaires and it meaning everything to Luton to get promoted where’s as other clubs he had been at its no big deal , and tellingly if we have a problem we throw work at it not budget , its not a club where we rely on the CEO or manager etc , its everyone , we recruit on desire , Good luck him he gave his all here and results dictated his departure but its a very telling insight about culture and the way the respective clubs were run at the time , he is and is going to be the very fine manager we thought he might be , personally i think we will be miles better long term for the departure of the previous chief executive , indeed already we are seeing the seeds of that in many areas but its looking lioke this iChat be a departure that says more about us than him If he's implying it'd be no big deal for Stoke go up he's talking complete shit. He can do what he wants elsewhere but he was a calamity for us. And rewriting history makes him out to be a dick. He didn’t say that he said everyone wa absolutely alighend to it at Luton and thats not WeChat he experienced elsewhere , it fist enough , he not rewriting history at all we cant jsut sit in a glass house and say he ‘shit as all the evidence before and after is to the contrary its a mini Expamle of clough at Leeds the change of rotten culture was just quick and too brutal but he is proving it was more about us than him O’Neil’s more considered style is clearly more suited to the environment with the same goals in mind but John coates for example has taken some stick for Jones appointment and other issues and the evidence suggests it was actually quite a clever appointment the mistakes were in alllowing the creation of that environment not the actual appointment |
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 27, 2022 10:11:08 GMT
If he's implying it'd be no big deal for Stoke go up he's talking complete shit. He can do what he wants elsewhere but he was a calamity for us. And rewriting history makes him out to be a dick. He didn’t say that he said everyone wa absolutely alighend to it at Luton and thats not WeChat he experienced elsewhere , it fist enough , he not rewriting history at all we cant jsut sit in a glass house and say he ‘shit as all the evidence before and after is to the contrary its a mini Expamle of clough at Leeds the change of rotten culture was just quick and too brutal but he is proving it was more about us than him O’Neil’s more considered style is clearly more suited to the environment with the same goals in mind but John coates for example has taken some stick for Jones appointment and other issues and the evidence suggests it was actually quite a clever appointment the mistakes were in alllowing the creation of that environment not the actual appointment Once that environment is created you have to adapt accordingly. We got a manager ill equipped to deal with our moderately famous players. A cleverer man than me said 'Nervous excitable managers send out nervous excitable teams'. So how did it feel for our players to see their boss displaying psychological imbalance? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 27, 2022 11:43:51 GMT
He didn’t say that he said everyone wa absolutely alighend to it at Luton and thats not WeChat he experienced elsewhere , it fist enough , he not rewriting history at all we cant jsut sit in a glass house and say he ‘shit as all the evidence before and after is to the contrary its a mini Expamle of clough at Leeds the change of rotten culture was just quick and too brutal but he is proving it was more about us than him O’Neil’s more considered style is clearly more suited to the environment with the same goals in mind but John coates for example has taken some stick for Jones appointment and other issues and the evidence suggests it was actually quite a clever appointment the mistakes were in alllowing the creation of that environment not the actual appointment Once that environment is created you have to adapt accordingly. We got a manager ill equipped to deal with our moderately famous players. A cleverer man than me said 'Nervous excitable managers send out nervous excitable teams'. So how did it feel for our players to see their boss displaying psychological imbalance? I think you might Describe Shankly as excitable , clough as eccentric , conte as excitable , and their teams seem to manage with he managers emotion its just another excuse for the players at the time to lay at the managers door , the simple fact they were in many case shisters recruited by a totally bankrupt recruitment model overseen by a charlatan with no football knowledge and pretty weak commercial skills as witnessed by our financial performance and serial decline , combined they proved too much for a young manager bit ita proved to be no limit on his career or success since and Howe is proof how that can work out |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2022 11:56:33 GMT
Just further proof of what we already know...
That the attitude of the players NJ inherited , was awful
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