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Post by misterj on Apr 14, 2022 17:42:08 GMT
In the Tony Adams book ‘Sober’ he certainly pulls no punches, it’s mostly about his recovery from alcoholism but there’s plenty of footy stuff too. I particularly like his assessment of pre Wenger Arsenal and the Wenger Arsenal years. He says previously we were built to take on the likes of Stoke City but once Wenger arrived we became a champions league outfit. A backhanded compliment? or a criticism of Stoke?
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Post by lordb on Apr 14, 2022 18:52:14 GMT
In the Tony Adams book ‘Sober’ he certainly pulls no punches, it’s mostly about his recovery from alcoholism but there’s plenty of footy stuff too. I particularly like his assessment of pre Wenger Arsenal and the Wenger Arsenal years. He says previously we were built to take on the likes of Stoke City but once Wenger arrived we became a champions league outfit. A backhanded compliment? or a criticism of Stoke? Sounds like a criticism of Wenger |
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Post by Veritas on Apr 14, 2022 19:13:49 GMT
Definitely a dig at Wenger and I am no Wenger fan but
With Wenger
1996-2018
3 League titles
7 FA Cups
In the 22 years pre Wenger
1973-95
2 League titles
2 FA Cups
2 League Cups
1 UEFA Cup
If I was an Arsenal fan I would take the Wenger years
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Post by nott1 on Apr 15, 2022 11:40:29 GMT
Definitely a dig at Wenger and I am no Wenger fan but With Wenger 1996-2018 3 League titles 7 FA Cups In the 22 years pre Wenger 1973-95 2 League titles 2 FA Cups 2 League Cups 1 UEFA Cup If I was an Arsenal fan I would take the Wenger years They should never have been in at least one of those FA cup finals, bloody cheats! |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Apr 15, 2022 12:36:13 GMT
I like Arsene Wenger. Great manager.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 15, 2022 15:22:50 GMT
Definitely a dig at Wenger and I am no Wenger fan but With Wenger 1996-2018 3 League titles 7 FA Cups In the 22 years pre Wenger 1973-95 2 League titles 2 FA Cups 2 League Cups 1 UEFA Cup If I was an Arsenal fan I would take the Wenger years They should never have been in at least one of those FA cup finals, bloody cheats! Which one was that? |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 15, 2022 15:24:21 GMT
Definitely a dig at Wenger and I am no Wenger fan but With Wenger 1996-2018 3 League titles 7 FA Cups In the 22 years pre Wenger 1973-95 2 League titles 2 FA Cups 2 League Cups 1 UEFA Cup If I was an Arsenal fan I would take the Wenger years None of those league titles came after 2003/04, where Arsenal underachieved in the league I thought, as they did in the Champions League throughout Wenger's era. He seemed blind to a decent box-to-box midfielder after Viera left and didn't sign a good enough goalkeeper after Lehmann until Cech eventually arrived. Admittedly Viera was almost impossible to replace, but Wenger didn't get anywhere near close enough for a Premier League challenging team. I loved Wenger's pantomine villain act while we were in the Premier League though. I agree that if I was an Arsenal fan, I would take those league titles and FA Cups. |
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Post by nott1 on Apr 15, 2022 18:09:25 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 15, 2022 18:15:19 GMT
I like Arsene Wenger. Great manager. My daughter has a coat like the ones he used to wear. Zips it up no mither. The blokes an idiot😉 |
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Post by werrington on Apr 15, 2022 18:58:06 GMT
I like Arsene Wenger. Great manager. You might like him but he’s a hypocritical cunt |
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Post by andystokey on Apr 15, 2022 19:28:15 GMT
There were two Wenger eras the first one they were hard as nails and would have crucified us. 1996 to about 2001.
The latter Wenger years were tippy tippy bollocks meh.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Apr 15, 2022 20:23:27 GMT
Sorry I was being sarcastic as the semis vs arseholes 70-71 & 71-72. The period in question was 73-95. |
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 16, 2022 19:29:24 GMT
I like Arsene Wenger. Great manager. And a Grade A cunt. Set out to wreck Shawcross's career, denigrated us as a club because they weren't able to cope with a team who didn't lie down and let them play their version of tiki taka which didn't work anyway. Spent his career pointing at others while his side had the most red cards of any other pl club. And now trying to fuck international football with his world Cup every 2 years shit - a vile front man to FIFAs greed. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 16, 2022 19:47:21 GMT
I like Arsene Wenger. Great manager. And a Grade A cunt. Set out to wreck Shawcross's career, denigrated us as a club because they weren't able to cope with a team who didn't lie down and let them play their version of tiki taka which didn't work anyway. Spent his career pointing at others while his side had the most red cards of any other pl club. And now trying to fuck international football with his world Cup every 2 years shit - a vile front man to FIFAs greed. Grade A cunt is a perfect description of Wenger. Perfecto. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 18, 2022 10:57:23 GMT
I like Arsene Wenger. Great manager. And a Grade A cunt. Set out to wreck Shawcross's career, denigrated us as a club because they weren't able to cope with a team who didn't lie down and let them play their version of tiki taka which didn't work anyway. Spent his career pointing at others while his side had the most red cards of any other pl club. And now trying to fuck international football with his world Cup every 2 years shit - a vile front man to FIFAs greed. Sounds like pretty much every manager out there. Didn’t MON moan about long throws when we lost to Birmingham last year? They all get up to the same crap to hide from their own errors. In my opinion, Wenger never replaced adequately Campbell (or Keown). They also tried to replace Dixon with players like Luzhnyi. The only change of the guard from that era he really got right was Winterburn for Cole. Losing Viera and also some of the best defensive players in the country over a 5 or so year period and not replacing them made Arsenal a very week touch. They never spent enough to truly dominate with tiki taka, but weren’t strong enough at the back to hold out against Stoke (and Bolton before us). |
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Post by chamberlain on Apr 18, 2022 13:00:51 GMT
I like Arsene Wenger. Great manager. Can't stand him |
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 18, 2022 17:42:57 GMT
And a Grade A cunt. Set out to wreck Shawcross's career, denigrated us as a club because they weren't able to cope with a team who didn't lie down and let them play their version of tiki taka which didn't work anyway. Spent his career pointing at others while his side had the most red cards of any other pl club. And now trying to fuck international football with his world Cup every 2 years shit - a vile front man to FIFAs greed. Sounds like pretty much every manager out there. Didn’t MON moan about long throws when we lost to Birmingham last year? They all get up to the same crap to hide from their own errors. In my opinion, Wenger never replaced adequately Campbell (or Keown). They also tried to replace Dixon with players like Luzhnyi. The only change of the guard from that era he really got right was Winterburn for Cole. Losing Viera and also some of the best defensive players in the country over a 5 or so year period and not replacing them made Arsenal a very week touch. They never spent enough to truly dominate with tiki taka, but weren’t strong enough at the back to hold out against Stoke (and Bolton before us). He called for long throws to be banned by FIFA! He never saw anything that it suited him not to see. He went after Shawcross for what was clearly an accident - the pundits at the game said as much but by the Monday the London media had changed the narrative. That probably fucked his England career (helped by the cunt Hodgson) and his chances of a big move. He was and is a cowardly twat who in the end was more happy to lose playing his outdated shit than change, blaming everyone but himself for it. He looked good for a while but when everyone else started eating pasta for dinner the game was up. Don't let time fade the memory, he was a complete shit. |
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