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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 12, 2022 18:04:25 GMT
The "deadwood" who he got a better tune from than the wood (whatever wood that may be) we have now. It's why I don't buy it as an excuse. Maybe so. But he’s shown he can motivate and inspire. I think he might still be the man. But it would be a gamble to keep him. Then again it’s a gamble not to. For me that’s never been in doubt. I just don’t think he can push on from here.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 12, 2022 18:05:38 GMT
Do whales 🐳 not shit in the ocean I can’t believe you liked your own post mate😉 The Covid is still frying me brains 🧠
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 12, 2022 18:30:45 GMT
I reckon we will miss out by 4/5 points, which is criminal when you look back. Should have made them easily with some consistancy. Won't all teams who miss out say the same though? Every team will look at games they should have won rather games they were fortunate to get points from.
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Post by lordb on Apr 12, 2022 18:32:01 GMT
Very close but no cigar.. we did it at the end of the following season to get in the playoffs. Look at Thorney That was the season Thorne went from Kyle Lightbourne into Mo Salah about halfway through the season. In part due to Gunlaugsson arival
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Post by Roger Everyone on Apr 12, 2022 18:48:29 GMT
We definitely can make the play offs, but it will be next season... Maybe
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Post by a on Apr 12, 2022 18:52:46 GMT
And if we don’t? Far too many folk on here are easily pleased or easily distracted from the reality that we are a lower mid table club at the moment, paying wages above our league position, with a manager who is taking us nowhere. A few wins doesn’t change that. Lower mid table club cannot be disputed, Stoke being 15th at the mo. I'm just stating the fairly obvious: If Stoke win all of their remaining matches. Those wanting to oust MON will have a less convincing case for doing so. Personally speaking I'm neutral on it right now. If we (and yes this is hypothetical) were rock bottom all season, then won the last 4-5 games, it would still be crap. 15th - 10th imo (yes, only my opinion and not universally shared) is still not enough for him to stay. I get your point though, it shows there is something of a fight in the team still and they haven’t completely downed tools, which is great to see. I just don’t think O’Neill is the right guy, chopping and changing, contradictions in his interviews, dropping players for no good reason, signing a boat load of players and somehow playing worse.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 12, 2022 19:16:25 GMT
The only realistic target is improvement on last seasons points total (60) and league position (14th).
Big five games for the manager. If he can find another three wins and a top ten finish he can rightly say it’s progress, albeit slow. If we end poorly then he has no defence, it’s regression.
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Post by iamstokie on Apr 12, 2022 19:46:49 GMT
We definitely can make the play offs, but it will be next season... Maybe No chance next season with MoN in charge
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 12, 2022 20:01:54 GMT
The only realistic target is improvement on last seasons points total (60) and league position (14th). Big five games for the manager. If he can find another three wins and a top ten finish he can rightly say it’s progress, albeit slow. If we end poorly then he has no defence, it’s regression. They're not big games really. We've won a few, it won't make a jot of difference to his position if we have a bad run now
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 12, 2022 20:03:25 GMT
The only realistic target is improvement on last seasons points total (60) and league position (14th). Big five games for the manager. If he can find another three wins and a top ten finish he can rightly say it’s progress, albeit slow. If we end poorly then he has no defence, it’s regression. They're not big games really. We've won a few, it won't make a jot of difference to his position if we have a bad run now I disagree. He’s got to be able to demonstrate some kind of progress has been made however minimal. The table doesn’t lie after 46 games.
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Post by dirtclod on Apr 12, 2022 20:08:13 GMT
Sure, but I have to get better at hitting my triples...
Oh!...you meant Stoke? Hell, I just want to see progress ...yeah what mickstupp just said.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Apr 12, 2022 20:16:34 GMT
.... if we win our next five matches, we will have 70 points .... that said, we desperately need the teams above us to drop points too. But all is not lost just yet. We have the players to do the job, and now its up to them to create some sort of history by actually getting Stoke promoted. It would really be a grand fairy tale. ... You need to stop taking those drugs. It will catch up with you 😆
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 20:20:33 GMT
Genuinely laughed out loud when I spotted this thread.
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 12, 2022 20:58:59 GMT
Someone was bound to post it.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 12, 2022 21:17:07 GMT
We only need 6 points to improve on last season’s total of 60. I see no reason why we can’t get 2 points a game which would give us 65. 3 points a game would be 70 which would have been enough for 7th last season but very unlikely.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Apr 12, 2022 21:17:54 GMT
We definitely can make the play offs, but it will be next season... Maybe No chance next season with MoN in charge Only time will tell.
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 12, 2022 21:24:57 GMT
At this point we can still do it, will we won't we who knows but as of now the answer to the OP is yes!
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 13, 2022 1:28:37 GMT
At this point we can still do it no we can't we won't we all know but as of now the answer to the OP is yes! no it isn't
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Post by kustokie on Apr 13, 2022 1:55:01 GMT
It’s not a question of if, it’s a question of when. To see how hard it is to get out of this league you need to look no further than the former European Champions, Nottingham Forest who have a good chance of finally making the playoffs and have a reasonable chance of getting promoted. And the really sad thing is we outplayed them twice this season - those dropped points would have reduced the points difference between Stoke and Forest by three and given Stoke a slim chance of making the playoffs. We have lost more points from winning positions than any other team in the league this season due to defensive lapses, and bad team selections and substitutions. We managed without Campbell, Souttar and Powell for most of the season and still won three out of the last four games; therefore our squad is more than good enough and injuries have been a minor contributor to this season’s collapse.
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Post by jokker on Apr 13, 2022 6:19:27 GMT
True but if Stoke do win all the remaining matches. It might shut the O'Neil out lobbyists up for a while. And if we don’t? Far too many folk on here are easily pleased or easily distracted from the reality that we are a lower mid table club at the moment, paying wages above our league position, with a manager who is taking us nowhere. A few wins doesn’t change that. So if we were to lose all five matches with large losses, dropping down further places, it wouldn't change that we are a midtable team? Of course it would, as would the reverse... The only thing that decides what we are, where we are, is the final position on matchday 46.
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 13, 2022 6:42:20 GMT
At this point we can still do it no we can't we won't we all know but as of now the answer to the OP is yes! no it isn't I'm no mathematical genius but Sheff Utd are in 6th with 65 points and we have a possible 15 points we could get would put us on 70 meaning that "if" all the teams above us failed to gain another point, all though highly but still possible that would have us 3rd and in a play off spot, well that's how I see it.
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 13, 2022 7:31:02 GMT
no we can't we won't we all know no it isn't I'm no mathematical genius but Sheff Utd are in 6th with 65 points and we have a possible 15 points we could get would put us on 70 meaning that "if" all the teams above us failed to gain another point, all though highly but still possible that would have us 3rd and in a play off spot, well that's how I see it. Crying here
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 13, 2022 7:33:38 GMT
no we can't we won't we all know no it isn't I'm no mathematical genius but Sheff Utd are in 6th with 65 points and we have a possible 15 points we could get would put us on 70 meaning that "if" all the teams above us failed to gain another point, all though highly but still possible that would have us 3rd and in a play off spot, well that's how I see it. Mathematically it’s still possible. Statistically it’s almost impossible. We have a fraction of a gnats cock’s chance of doing it based on a) the likely entry point for the playoffs will be 72/73 points and b) we are highly unlikely to win all of our remaining games. So for the pedants out there, yes it’s still possible. But it won’t happen.
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Post by Linx on Apr 13, 2022 7:44:58 GMT
Bristol, Blackburn and QPR have all got awful form as we prepare to play them. So we all know what that means😏
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 15, 2022 16:02:53 GMT
That's our chance of the playoffs gone then.. again! Dammit
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Post by citynickscfc on Apr 15, 2022 16:04:44 GMT
Delusional
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 15, 2022 16:04:52 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Apr 15, 2022 16:05:25 GMT
Wank
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 15, 2022 16:17:15 GMT
The funny thing is all the results went our way today.
If we’d have won we’d have only been 7 points off the playoffs.
Not that we’d have got in or are good enough to make it, but still, very frustrating.
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Post by theblackdeath on Apr 15, 2022 18:02:05 GMT
No
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