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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 20, 2022 18:57:37 GMT
The manager thread got me thinking about the managers we,ve had since the stadium move. Plenty of bad ones unfortunately. I would rate them as follows
1 Pulis 2 Hughes 3 Thordarson 4 ONeill 5 Boskamp 6 Megson 7 Durban 8 Rowett 9 quitterill 10 Bates 11 Lambert 12 Little 13 Kamara 14 Jones
Theres an argument for any of the bottom 3 to be bottom but ive gone for Jones purely because unlike the others he was well backed by the board. On transfers, Rowett could be lower, but we never looked like going down under him.
Says quite a lot that MON is 4th. That said I would put quite a gap between the top 2 and the rest
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Post by chuckrocky on Mar 20, 2022 18:59:43 GMT
The manager thread got me thinking about the managers we,ve had since the stadium move. Plenty of bad ones unfortunately. I would rate them as follows 1 Pulis 2 Hughes 3 Thordarson 4 ONeill 5 Boskamp 6 Megson 7 Durban 8 Rowett 9 Bates 10 Lambert 11 Little 12 Kamara 13 Jones Theres an argument for any of the bottom 3 to be bottom but ive gone for Jones purely because unlike the others he was well backed by the board. On transfers, Rowett could be lower, but we never looked like going down under him. Says quite a lot that MON is 4th. That said I would put quite a gap between the top 2 and the rest You forgot Quiterill.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2022 19:00:57 GMT
Hughes Pulis Thordarson Boskamp Megson
Who are the others again?
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 20, 2022 19:01:46 GMT
The manager thread got me thinking about the managers we,ve had since the stadium move. Plenty of bad ones unfortunately. I would rate them as follows 1 Pulis 2 Hughes 3 Thordarson 4 ONeill 5 Boskamp 6 Megson 7 Durban 8 Rowett 9 Bates 10 Lambert 11 Little 12 Kamara 13 Jones Theres an argument for any of the bottom 3 to be bottom but ive gone for Jones purely because unlike the others he was well backed by the board. On transfers, Rowett could be lower, but we never looked like going down under him. Says quite a lot that MON is 4th. That said I would put quite a gap between the top 2 and the rest You forgot Quiterill. I did, corrected!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 19:06:15 GMT
1) MoN 2) Rowett 3) Jones 4) Lambert
Lambert fucking failed big, Rowet picked up a crock of shit and spunked money on further shit and Jones had the biggest crock of shit to carry of any manager and MoN has changed the crock of shit to a different crock of shit because FPP is an issue.
Pulis, Hughes, Little, Megson and Thordarson were managers who had good spells and bad spells.
Boskamp was fun.
Kamara and Bates were cost driven appointments so not really worth rating, Durban just filled in.
Ah after post Quiterall did what Rowett did but without the style, took us for a test drive and handed back the keys or in his case left them in the boot. Why the the thick fuck could not have just posted them through the letter box at the reception is anyones guess!
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Post by march4 on Mar 20, 2022 19:06:21 GMT
1. TP 1 2. TP 2 3. Hughes 4. Gudjon 5. Megson
Not a lot worth listing after that. Indeed it gives me nightmares thinking about it!!
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 20, 2022 19:11:45 GMT
Only two forgeiners in 26 years. Hmmm.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2022 19:16:44 GMT
Only two forgeiners in 26 years. Hmmm. Stoke on Trent Live. “Historical Racism going back nearly 3 decades found at Stoke City, and you agree.” Hayley Parker
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 20, 2022 22:47:55 GMT
I always felt sorry for Megson. He was doing a decent job when the Icelandics took over and he was displaced. If my memory serves me right I thought he handled the whole matter with a lot of class.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 20, 2022 22:48:25 GMT
1) MoN 2) Rowett 3) Jones 4) Lambert Lambert fucking failed big, Rowet picked up a crock of shit and spunked money on further shit and Jones had the biggest crock of shit to carry of any manager and MoN has changed the crock of shit to a different crock of shit because FPP is an issue. Pulis, Hughes, Little, Megson and Thordarson were managers who had good spells and bad spells. Boskamp was fun. Kamara and Bates were cost driven appointments so not really worth rating, Durban just filled in. Ah after post Quiterall did what Rowett did but without the style, took us for a test drive and handed back the keys or in his case left them in the boot. Why the the thick fuck could not have just posted them through the letter box at the reception is anyones guess! Bates wasn't cost driven. He was offered the job as let down last minute. We prob did the opposite and set our sights too high but wasn't the budget to attract who we wanted.Moxey spent a long time chasing Rioch but was never on. Beardsley is common knowledge and the Keegan enquiry was no more than that as he and Coates were fairly good friends but was never going to happen in reality. Megson was doing a good job when we replaced him. Yeah often wondered what would have happened if we’d stuck with Megson, given what he went on to achieve at West Brom. It was never going to happen as Gudjon was fundamental to the Icelandic takeover. Megson has always spoken well of us since
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 22:50:09 GMT
Bates wasn't cost driven. He was offered the job as let down last minute. We prob did the opposite and set our sights too high but wasn't the budget to attract who we wanted.Moxey spent a long time chasing Rioch but was never on. Beardsley is common knowledge and the Keegan enquiry was no more than that as he and Coates were fairly good friends but was never going to happen in reality. Megson was doing a good job when we replaced him. Yeah often wondered what would have happened if we’d stuck with Megson, given what he went on to achieve at West Brom. It was never going to happen as Gudjon was fundamental to the Icelandic takeover. Megson has always spoken well of us since I really liked Megson. Were we second when he left? I remember the players surrounding him when we scored v Bristol City, his last game I think
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 20, 2022 22:52:29 GMT
1 Pulis 2 Hughes 3 Thordarson 4 O'Neill 5 Megson 6 Little 7 Lambert 8 Boskamp 9 Cotterill 10 Bates 11 Jones 12 Rowett 13 Kamara
Whatever the order of the top 3, it picks itself which says a lot.
Last feels harsh on Kamara given the state the club was in at the time. It put him off being a manager for life!
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Post by Glory Hunter on Mar 20, 2022 22:57:31 GMT
There is no dispute about this. Kamara is statistically the worst, but had the good grace to depart after 6/8 games. Jones is most definitely the worst. He had a 20 game free hit, signed almost anyone he wanted, had a full pre season and almost no injuries of any consequence. He was utter shit and became shitter. Lambert wasn’t a great signing, but with some luck against Brighton at home, Weat Ham away and Leicester away, would have kept us up. And ok, it would have been ugly the following year, but we were in games. Jones was and should always be remembered as the SHIt ONE and there should be a decent song about that to remind him and everyone, the damage he caused.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 23:00:22 GMT
1 Pulis 2 Hughes 3 Thordarson 4 O'Neill 5 Megson 6 Little 7 Lambert 8 Boskamp 9 Cotterill 10 Bates 11 Jones 12 Rowett 13 Kamara Whatever the order of the top 3, it picks itself which says a lot. Last feels harsh on Kamara given the state the club was in at the time. It put him off being a manager for life! Very true. I wouldn't have Kamara bottom, would have a second division with only Jones in it. Megson 4th for me
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Post by Sfance on Mar 21, 2022 1:34:49 GMT
I liked Boskamp. As someone said above, he was a lot of fun. Which was sadly missing from most of the others’ CVs on here. Despite the “three ninth place” finishes that everyone goes on about, our latest stint among the big boys was nothing compared to the mid-60s and early 70s. So for pure enjoyment, I’d put Boskamp at the top.
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Post by upthefud on Mar 21, 2022 3:39:42 GMT
1 Pulis 2 2 Pulis 1 3 Thordasson 4 ONeill 5 Megson 6 Boskamp 7 Hughes 8 Rowett 9 Lambert 10 Cotterill 11 Jones 12 Little 13 Kamara
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Post by wuzza on Mar 21, 2022 6:33:49 GMT
To say some of those managers were handed a poisoned chalice would be the biggest understatement ever. They had little or no chance of making a go of anything. For what it’s worth TP is clearly streets ahead the best - the ‘wild card’ would be Gary Merson who didn’t do much wrong in the short time he had. (I think people are being a bit generous to Boskamp in the above ratings)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 21, 2022 6:56:54 GMT
The manager thread got me thinking about the managers we,ve had since the stadium move. Plenty of bad ones unfortunately. I would rate them as follows 1 Pulis 2 Hughes 3 Thordarson 4 ONeill 5 Boskamp 6 Megson 7 Durban 8 Rowett 9 quitterill 10 Bates 11 Lambert 12 Little 13 Kamara 14 Jones Theres an argument for any of the bottom 3 to be bottom but ive gone for Jones purely because unlike the others he was well backed by the board. On transfers, Rowett could be lower, but we never looked like going down under him. Says quite a lot that MON is 4th. That said I would put quite a gap between the top 2 and the rest Think this pretty much nails it in the first post. It’s Pulis and Hughes (you could make a valid argument for either in the top spot) by an absolute chasm then the fairly grim rest.
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 21, 2022 12:36:03 GMT
That's a grim selection outside Hughes and Pulis. Is it 25 years since we moved?
I suppose what it shows is that our best periods have been marked by great managerial stability and the rest of the time by rapid changes in management - mostly justified.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 21, 2022 12:43:03 GMT
What a depressing list. Not really one name that you think 'exciting to watch football'
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Post by Gob Bluth on Mar 21, 2022 13:04:21 GMT
Pulis Hughes Thordarson Megson ONeill Boskamp Lambert Durban Little Rowett Bates Kamara Quitterill Jones
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 21, 2022 13:13:34 GMT
I always felt sorry for Megson. He was doing a decent job when the Icelandics took over and he was displaced. If my memory serves me right I thought he handled the whole matter with a lot of class. Megson was treated appallingly. I liked Gudjon but he made hard work of getting us promoted. I think Megson would have achieved it sooner. His subsequent success at WBA speaks for itself - another manager who left us and did better!
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Post by brotherleelove on Mar 21, 2022 13:23:55 GMT
I always felt sorry for Megson. He was doing a decent job when the Icelandics took over and he was displaced. If my memory serves me right I thought he handled the whole matter with a lot of class. He did handle the matter with dignity.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 21, 2022 13:25:11 GMT
1 Pulis 2 Hughes 3 Thordarson 4 O'Neill 5 Megson 6 Little 7 Lambert 8 Boskamp 9 Cotterill 10 Bates 11 Jones 12 Rowett 13 Kamara Whatever the order of the top 3, it picks itself which says a lot. Last feels harsh on Kamara given the state the club was in at the time. It put him off being a manager for life! It really does pick itself. In fact outside of that top three, it's difficult to be that bothered about the relative 'achievements' of the rest. Some worse than others, but all ultimately unsuccessful, with the possible exception of O'Neill for keeping us up.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 21, 2022 13:29:30 GMT
Only two forgeiners in 26 years. Hmmm. And neither appointed by the Coates
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Post by noustie on Mar 21, 2022 13:30:23 GMT
Simply for having the foresight to think ‘fuck that!’ I’d have George Burley and Sanchez Flores in the top 5.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 21, 2022 13:31:37 GMT
1. TP 1 2. TP 2 3. Hughes 4. Gudjon 5. Megson Not a lot worth listing after that. Indeed it gives me nightmares thinking about it!! Beautiful. That top two is a subtle masterpiece marchy.
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Post by hotterpotter on Mar 21, 2022 13:53:01 GMT
1) MoN 2) Rowett 3) Jones 4) Lambert Lambert fucking failed big, Rowet picked up a crock of shit and spunked money on further shit and Jones had the biggest crock of shit to carry of any manager and MoN has changed the crock of shit to a different crock of shit because FPP is an issue. Pulis, Hughes, Little, Megson and Thordarson were managers who had good spells and bad spells. Boskamp was fun. Kamara and Bates were cost driven appointments so not really worth rating, Durban just filled in. Ah after post Quiterall did what Rowett did but without the style, took us for a test drive and handed back the keys or in his case left them in the boot. Why the the thick fuck could not have just posted them through the letter box at the reception is anyones guess! That's your top 4?
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Post by lagwafis on Mar 21, 2022 15:46:50 GMT
Boskamp is a strange one. Plenty of fond memories if you went away games (10 wins including 5-1 at Brighton, 4-1 at Ipswich, 3-2 at Luton) but only 7 wins at home and some painful three goal defeats against Watford, Wolves, Cardiff, Hull.
His radio interviews were priceless though. Imagine him co-commentating alongside Nige.
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Post by medwaypotter on Mar 21, 2022 16:11:56 GMT
What a depressing list. Not really one name that you think 'exciting to watch football' Hughes did at times.
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