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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 17, 2022 9:09:18 GMT
When was the last time we heard anything from the hierarchy at the club?Serious question because I just don’t remember anything at all.
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 17, 2022 9:10:11 GMT
When was the last time we heard anything from the hierarchy at the club?Serious question because I just don’t remember anything at all. Ask Gods
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Post by BristolMick on Mar 17, 2022 9:15:20 GMT
When was the last time we heard anything from the hierarchy at the club?Serious question because I just don’t remember anything at all. I’m sure someone will be piping up very soon! BM
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Post by franklin on Mar 17, 2022 9:21:06 GMT
I would hope they are already working on replacing him it would be negligence if they weren't.
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Post by wuzza on Mar 17, 2022 9:26:33 GMT
What’s to say? They desperately want him to succeed. I’m sure he was integral to so many plans which will have to be torn up again if he and his team goes. If they give him public support it’s a torrent of abuse from supporters and a cynical ‘vote of confidence’ analysis from others. It’s probably a grit your teeth and hope for the best scenario for the rest of the season.
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Post by miggo on Mar 17, 2022 9:28:26 GMT
It would be another 'whats all the fuss' statement anyway.
That statement was the beginning of the end for 'the family' pumping money in only goes so far and we have the runt of the litter running the show who clearly has no plan on how to move the club forward and managerial changes are sticking plasters for a much bigger rot.
Unfortunately no one will buy us so here we are strap in. Its about to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 17, 2022 9:35:04 GMT
He’s not going anywhere. Dec at the earliest if we start next season on the same form
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 17, 2022 9:37:46 GMT
Is this a new way of asking for a statement?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 17, 2022 9:39:42 GMT
They have nothing to say, they think everything is hunky dorry, they can't see what all the fuss is about, again.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Mar 17, 2022 9:47:05 GMT
For the sake of balance
1 They have been rebasing the club financially which is paramount and which they do best. No one else can do that
2 What do people expect them to say that meaningful ,
option A Vote of confidence - never works
Option B he has got x games - never works
Option. C. he is staying no matter what not exactly a vote winner and unlikely to improve results by current form
Option D. he’s gone. They wlll I only say that if and when it happens.
its understandable as the silence causes a vacuum but essentially they are damned if they do and damned of they dont so if a statement comes i suspect whatever it says it wont be the silver bullet answer
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Post by santy on Mar 17, 2022 9:48:17 GMT
Not really deafening is it. It seems a lot of Stoke fans just seem to expect the board to be making non-stop statements. Do you need John and Peter to be doing play-by-play commentary and talking about what a missed pass means for the club during a match?
It's fucking shit to have another season turn into dead rubber, its wank that we've been in winning positions and thrown it away. There will be different philosophies on the way to put it right but when your club is hamstrung by FFP still to an unknown extent, despite the recent announcements, you probably don't want to go chopping and changing managers every season and just accruing more and more players on deals not getting used. More contracts are up this summer and that lessens the burden on the club, but based on current FFP time frames with the rolling 3 year periods we're still another 2 years away from hitting a reset point on our finances.
There's not really much point in making negative statements since it serves no potential benefits.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 17, 2022 9:49:54 GMT
He’s not going anywhere. Dec at the earliest if we start next season on the same form Nah. We are on a horrific run of form with tough matches to end the season. If we carry on in the same vein, we'll be lucky to finish above 18th with something like 5 wins from about 30 games. It would be sheer lunacy to keep him on, and he should already be packing his bags.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 17, 2022 9:50:18 GMT
When was the last time we heard anything from the hierarchy at the club?Serious question because I just don’t remember anything at all. What do you want them to say? Surely it's more about action, either they stick or twist? I don't see what any statement achieves
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 17, 2022 9:52:18 GMT
When was the last time we heard anything from the hierarchy at the club?Serious question because I just don’t remember anything at all. What do you want them to say? Surely it's more about action, either they stick or twist? I don't see what any statement achieves Come out and back him then
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Post by bunnyscfc on Mar 17, 2022 12:16:02 GMT
I don't want a statement about the manager, more so we needed a message three years ago what our plan was rather than spending crackers amounts of money. We need to knpw the short term and long term vision for our club. And that doesn't mean "get back to the Premier league asap". A proper, coherent plan of action and the structure that delivers it
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Post by bagnallboothen on Mar 17, 2022 12:40:43 GMT
When was the last time we heard anything from the hierarchy at the club?Serious question because I just don’t remember anything at all. When they told us they were going to give us a team to be proud of. And on that note, it's probably for the best they keep quiet.
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Post by Gods on Mar 17, 2022 12:42:59 GMT
My favourite question.
If I had a pound for every time I asked it...!
There was a fans Zoom call during peak lockdown but it was basically a round of back slapping between MON, JC and Scholesy, aka the father, son and the holy ghost. (Looks like they caught the last train for the coast!)
Someone has a PowerPoint deck with the master plan, be good to see it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 17, 2022 12:52:32 GMT
The last one was Scholes' farewell interview, wasn't it?
I agree with Benji - it's as clear as mud what they could say at this point. How can they defend anything? And the only alternative is a full-throated vote of confidence in MON, which would be foolish. They must be coming to the conclusion his position is untenable, as painful as that is to them
I don't think we'll hear anything now until his sacking is announced, then we'll get yet another statement expressing disappointment and commitment.
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Post by eddyclamp on Mar 17, 2022 12:54:37 GMT
this feels like it`s getting like the old days with Moxey down here.
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Post by march4 on Mar 17, 2022 12:58:14 GMT
I think more of John and Peter than some posters. They are intelligent, sensible football men who know the game inside out.
Their Achilles Heal is trusting their employees too much and consequently they leave them in post longer than many others. In other situations this would be seen as a strength.
I suspect they will have been making some enquiries about availability of alternative managers. Let’s hope they find a new Lou quickly so Michael O’Neill can be paid off to continue his career elsewhere.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 17, 2022 12:58:35 GMT
For the sake of balance 1 They have been rebasing the club financially which is paramount and which they do best. No one else can do that 2 What do people expect them to say that meaningful , option A Vote of confidence - never works Option B he has got x games - never works Option. C. he is staying no matter what not exactly a vote winner and unlikely to improve results by current form Option D. he’s gone. They wlll I only say that if and when it happens. its understandable as the silence causes a vacuum but essentially they are damned if they do and damned of they dont so if a statement comes i suspect whatever it says it wont be the silver bullet answer Benj that's probably the most sensible thing I've heard you say in 50 years.
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Post by Gods on Mar 17, 2022 13:01:42 GMT
The last one was Scholes' farewell interview, wasn't it? I agree with Benji - it's as clear as mud what they could say at this point. How can they defend anything? And the only alternative is a full-throated vote of confidence in MON, which would be foolish. They must be coming to the conclusion his position is untenable, as painful as that is to them I don't think we'll hear anything now until his sacking is announced, then we'll get yet another statement expressing disappointment and commitment. The Scholesy farewell interview essentially looked to me like him walking us through his interview notes for the swanky Prem job he got. Listening to it you'd think all was hunky dory around the place, he could not have left the club in better shape :-)
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Post by flea79 on Mar 17, 2022 13:19:09 GMT
im sure a venomous atmosphere on saturday where the crowd reduce MON to tears in the dugout, tell the players what they think of them and finally round on the family will see him on his way
lets face it Rowett would have stayed except the fans turned on Scholes and Cartwright so too mollify us they placed GR on the sacrificial altar
but lets face it we will just see happy clappers telling us we are not real fans and we should be happy despite another shit loss to a recent ex manager and there will be scrapping in the stands again as stoke fights stoke, there will be a que by sir stans statue for people wanting to square off, that will be the story not the ineptitude of the board and the failings of our footballing management team, thats the narrative they want
jesus i sound like i should be donning a tin foil hat
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 17, 2022 13:24:43 GMT
im sure a venomous atmosphere on saturday where the crowd reduce MON to tears in the dugout, tell the players what they think of them and finally round on the family will see him on his way lets face it Rowett would have stayed except the fans turned on Scholes and Cartwright so too mollify us they placed GR on the sacrificial altar but lets face it we will just see happy clappers telling us we are not real fans and we should be happy despite another shit loss to a recent ex manager and there will be scrapping in the stands again as stoke fights stoke, there will be a que by sir stans statue for people wanting to square off, that will be the story not the ineptitude of the board and the failings of our footballing management team, thats the narrative they want jesus i sound like i should be donning a tin foil hat Rowett was a dead man walking before the song about Scholes and Cartwright. They were just finding the replacement. The Bristol City game made it clear he was done.
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Post by flea79 on Mar 17, 2022 13:29:04 GMT
im sure a venomous atmosphere on saturday where the crowd reduce MON to tears in the dugout, tell the players what they think of them and finally round on the family will see him on his way lets face it Rowett would have stayed except the fans turned on Scholes and Cartwright so too mollify us they placed GR on the sacrificial altar but lets face it we will just see happy clappers telling us we are not real fans and we should be happy despite another shit loss to a recent ex manager and there will be scrapping in the stands again as stoke fights stoke, there will be a que by sir stans statue for people wanting to square off, that will be the story not the ineptitude of the board and the failings of our footballing management team, thats the narrative they want jesus i sound like i should be donning a tin foil hat Rowett was a dead man walking before the song about Scholes and Cartwright. They were just finding the replacement. The Bristol City game made it clear he was done. Im not so sure, yes the football wasnt great but we were not losing, his comments after the game about Bojan were unfortunate/stupid/dangerous (delete as applicable) but a decent result or two and maybe some grovelling from him and then he might have stayed, the vanity of Scholes and Carthorse was a huge factor i reckon
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 17, 2022 13:34:27 GMT
Rowett was a dead man walking before the song about Scholes and Cartwright. They were just finding the replacement. The Bristol City game made it clear he was done. Im not so sure, yes the football wasnt great but we were not losing, his comments after the game about Bojan were unfortunate/stupid/dangerous (delete as applicable) but a decent result or two and maybe some grovelling from him and then he might have stayed, the vanity of Scholes and Carthorse was a huge factor i reckon Do you not remember the reaction at the Bristol City game? It was one of the most toxic things I've seen since the Birmingham 7-0. And we were playing badly, we couldn't break teams down and Rowett had removed all creativity from the side. We only ever looked ok against teams who attacked and allowed us to counter. The game where Scholes and Cartwright were sung about was 5th Jan. Jones was appointed on 9th Jan. Do you really think our famously proactive owners and CEO suddenly, on the spur of the moment after one mean song, decided to sack the manager, identified Nathan Jones as his successor, sold the club to him and managed to agree compo with Luton by Tuesday that same week?
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Post by flea79 on Mar 17, 2022 13:36:10 GMT
Im not so sure, yes the football wasnt great but we were not losing, his comments after the game about Bojan were unfortunate/stupid/dangerous (delete as applicable) but a decent result or two and maybe some grovelling from him and then he might have stayed, the vanity of Scholes and Carthorse was a huge factor i reckon Do you not remember the reaction at the Bristol City game? It was one of the most toxic things I've seen since the Birmingham 7-0. And we were playing badly, we couldn't break teams down and Rowett had removed all creativity from the side. We only ever looked ok against teams who attacked and allowed us to counter. The game where Scholes and Cartwright were sung about was 5th Jan. Jones was appointed on 9th Jan. Do you really think our famously proactive owners and CEO suddenly, on the spur of the moment after one mean song, decided to sack the manager, identified Nathan Jones as his successor, sold the club to him and managed to agree compo with Luton by Tuesday that same week? hell then i remember it completely incorrectly i thought rowett was still in post when that song was sung!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 17, 2022 13:39:19 GMT
Do you not remember the reaction at the Bristol City game? It was one of the most toxic things I've seen since the Birmingham 7-0. And we were playing badly, we couldn't break teams down and Rowett had removed all creativity from the side. We only ever looked ok against teams who attacked and allowed us to counter. The game where Scholes and Cartwright were sung about was 5th Jan. Jones was appointed on 9th Jan. Do you really think our famously proactive owners and CEO suddenly, on the spur of the moment after one mean song, decided to sack the manager, identified Nathan Jones as his successor, sold the club to him and managed to agree compo with Luton by Tuesday that same week? hell then i remember it completely incorrectly i thought rowett was still in post when that song was sung! It was sung at the Shrewsbury game that was his last official game in charge. But the reactions to Bolton and Bristol City made it clear that his time was up. He was finished with or without that song being sung.
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Post by Jimm on Mar 17, 2022 13:46:15 GMT
What's all the fuss about?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Mar 17, 2022 13:58:47 GMT
Im not so sure, yes the football wasnt great but we were not losing, his comments after the game about Bojan were unfortunate/stupid/dangerous (delete as applicable) but a decent result or two and maybe some grovelling from him and then he might have stayed, the vanity of Scholes and Carthorse was a huge factor i reckon Do you not remember the reaction at the Bristol City game? It was one of the most toxic things I've seen since the Birmingham 7-0. And we were playing badly, we couldn't break teams down and Rowett had removed all creativity from the side. We only ever looked ok against teams who attacked and allowed us to counter. The game where Scholes and Cartwright were sung about was 5th Jan. Jones was appointed on 9th Jan. Do you really think our famously proactive owners and CEO suddenly, on the spur of the moment after one mean song, decided to sack the manager, identified Nathan Jones as his successor, sold the club to him and managed to agree compo with Luton by Tuesday that same week? Didn’t Rowett also throw Shawcross under the bus and then reverse over him? Rowett started a fight he was never going to win
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