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Post by penkhullite on Mar 12, 2022 20:56:14 GMT
We tried to start it, a few joined in but got a response off a lad next to me who said "No, we need to get a song going about Baker."
He then followed that up with the imaginative "You're fucking shit" after singing "Peterboroughs a shit hole, I wanna go home." for most of the game. Thought it was pretty nice there to be fair.😕
Sums up an away game nowadays unfortunately. Devoid of anything clever, classy or funny, but at least you got a video of letting smoke bombs off on the station and ale getting thrown everywhere in the concourse before kick off. Top day👍🏼
On reflection, there is only one Paul Ware and thanks for the memories you made mate. We couldn't give you a big enough rendition today, but some were definitely thinking of you, on that pitch, scoring that goal, at that end, in that game.
"We've won it two times!"
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Post by samba :) on Mar 12, 2022 21:01:10 GMT
We are staying up was hilarious I thought
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 12, 2022 21:02:35 GMT
We are staying up was hilarious I thought 😂 that is quite funny |
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Post by penkhullite on Mar 12, 2022 21:21:44 GMT
We are staying up was hilarious I thought Well,I wouldn't say hilarious but that's a million times better than "My garden shed" and the 100mph Delilah, Bread, We'll Be With You that were sung 20 times a piece today.🙄 |
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Post by anchorman on Mar 12, 2022 23:13:49 GMT
We tried to start it, a few joined in but got a response off a lad next to me who said "No, we need to get a song going about Baker." He then followed that up with the imaginative "You're fucking shit" after singing "Peterboroughs a shit hole, I wanna go home." for most of the game. Thought it was pretty nice there to be fair.😕 Sums up an away game nowadays unfortunately. Devoid of anything clever, classy or funny, but at least you got a video of letting smoke bombs off on the station and ale getting thrown everywhere in the concourse before kick off. Top day👍🏼 On reflection, there is only one Paul Ware and thanks for the memories you made mate. We couldn't give you a big enough rendition today, but some were definitely thinking of you, on that pitch, scoring that goal, at that end, in that game. "We've won it two times!" I’ve got very fond memories of that night, stood alongside 4000 Stokies as Paul Ware stepped up to take the free kick from 25 yards out..what a mental as the ball hit the back of the net. Well done for at least trying Penkhullite. And you’re right, some of we’re thinking of ‘Tupper’… |
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 12, 2022 23:31:19 GMT
We are staying up was hilarious I thought Well,I wouldn't say hilarious but that's a million times better than "My garden shed" and the 100mph Delilah, Bread, We'll Be With You that were sung 20 times a piece today.🙄 I can't recall we'll be with you being sung once today if I'm honest |
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Post by penkhullite on Mar 12, 2022 23:42:58 GMT
Well,I wouldn't say hilarious but that's a million times better than "My garden shed" and the 100mph Delilah, Bread, We'll Be With You that were sung 20 times a piece today.🙄 I can't recall we'll be with you being sung once today if I'm honest Probably because it was done in 30 seconds and drowned out by the usual shite. |
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Post by callas12 on Mar 13, 2022 0:45:08 GMT
Sadly a fair proportion of our current following probably don't remember or care to learn who Paul Ware was or what a good honest player he was for us. Pity your song suggestion never really took off, Warey is definitely worthy of a song especially at London Road. Heard the Kenwyne Jones & Peter Odemwingie songs being sang, a Paul Ware one would of been great to hear & certainly more apt today.
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 13, 2022 1:08:45 GMT
Peterborough always makes me think of Paul Ware
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Post by penkhullite on Mar 13, 2022 1:37:33 GMT
Sadly a fair proportion of our current following probably don't remember or care to learn who Paul Ware was or what a good honest player he was for us. Pity your song suggestion never really took off, Warey is definitely worthy of a song especially at London Road. Heard the Kenwyne Jones & Peter Odemwingie songs being sang, a Paul Ware one would of been great to hear & certainly more apt today. That's the battle unfortunately. I was in shouting distance of a few fans who had no idea who Paul Ware was! Everyone about them were happy to churn out the usual shite dross. Saw them take photos holding smoke bombs,thinking they were it! For me and my mate, who are both just over 40 understand the influence that Paul Ware had on a momentous days in 90s culture. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 1:40:10 GMT
Sadly a fair proportion of our current following probably don't remember or care to learn who Paul Ware was or what a good honest player he was for us. Pity your song suggestion never really took off, Warey is definitely worthy of a song especially at London Road. Heard the Kenwyne Jones & Peter Odemwingie songs being sang, a Paul Ware one would of been great to hear & certainly more apt today. That's the battle unfortunately. I was in shouting distance of a few fans who had no idea who Paul Ware was! Everyone about them were happy to churn out the usual shite dross. Saw them take photos holding smoke bombs,thinking they were it! For me and my mate, who are both just over 40 understand the influence that Paul Ware had in a momentous day in 90s culture. Did they have the audacity of being young and maybe not being born when it happened? |
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Post by penkhullite on Mar 13, 2022 7:18:05 GMT
That's the battle unfortunately. I was in shouting distance of a few fans who had no idea who Paul Ware was! Everyone about them were happy to churn out the usual shite dross. Saw them take photos holding smoke bombs,thinking they were it! For me and my mate, who are both just over 40 understand the influence that Paul Ware had in a momentous day in 90s culture. Did they have the audacity of being young and maybe not being born when it happened? You know what, you're right and then I had the "audacity" of explaining why I was singing it and let's get back to the issue, they had the "audacity" of not giving a fuck, even when I explained...anyway suppose you had to be there. I also made sure I got to the ground early to applaud the 72 team last week, I was born in 1980. Clapped and put flowers down at Banksy's memorial, I was born in 1980. Likewise when I was a kid for Waddington. I was born in 1980. Skived off after dinner for work for Stans send off. Need I go on? |
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 13, 2022 8:42:07 GMT
Did they have the audacity of being young and maybe not being born when it happened? You know what, you're right and then I had the "audacity" of explaining why I was singing it and let's get back to the issue, they had the "audacity" of not giving a fuck, even when I explained...anyway suppose you had to be there. I also made sure I got to the ground early to applaud the 72 team last week, I was born in 1980. Clapped and put flowers down at Banksy's memorial, I was born in 1980. Likewise when I was a kid for Waddington. I was born in 1980. Skived off after dinner for work for Stans send off. Need I go on? I'm a similar age to you, and did all those things too, but as much as that Warey moment meant to us, and as much as his death upset me, I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone younger to really know about him or understand it. Warey was a wholehearted but average League One player. The moment in question was in an Autoglass Cup game. It was (unbelievably) 30 years ago. To anyone who was there, given the context of what was going on at the time, it was massive. To anyone who wasn't, it'd be some obscure bit of history scored by an obscure player who would be nothing more than a name on a page to them. The shocking thing isn't really other people not singing or knowing about Warey, it's the moment you realise that a lot of your reference points are no longer shared by everyone because you're getting old! |
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Post by sasfan on Mar 13, 2022 8:46:16 GMT
Peterborough always makes me think of Paul Ware Me too. Stood behind the goal that night is a memory that will live with me forever. |
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Post by neckender78 on Mar 13, 2022 8:51:39 GMT
The people who make the point about the generational thing are right.
For someone my age Paul Ware was a hero and will always be one of my favourite ever Stoke players and the way he played football was how a schoolboy would want to play for the team he loves.
We'll be with you Warey
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 9:20:32 GMT
Did they have the audacity of being young and maybe not being born when it happened? You know what, you're right and then I had the "audacity" of explaining why I was singing it and let's get back to the issue, they had the "audacity" of not giving a fuck, even when I explained...anyway suppose you had to be there. I also made sure I got to the ground early to applaud the 72 team last week, I was born in 1980. Clapped and put flowers down at Banksy's memorial, I was born in 1980. Likewise when I was a kid for Waddington. I was born in 1980. Skived off after dinner for work for Stans send off. Need I go on? I don’t see the issue. They wanted to sing thing, you wanted to sing another. Do you want a medal? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 9:22:39 GMT
You know what, you're right and then I had the "audacity" of explaining why I was singing it and let's get back to the issue, they had the "audacity" of not giving a fuck, even when I explained...anyway suppose you had to be there. I also made sure I got to the ground early to applaud the 72 team last week, I was born in 1980. Clapped and put flowers down at Banksy's memorial, I was born in 1980. Likewise when I was a kid for Waddington. I was born in 1980. Skived off after dinner for work for Stans send off. Need I go on? I'm a similar age to you, and did all those things too, but as much as that Warey moment meant to us, and as much as his death upset me, I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone younger to really know about him or understand it. Warey was a wholehearted but average League One player. The moment in question was in an Autoglass Cup game. It was (unbelievably) 30 years ago. To anyone who was there, given the context of what was going on at the time, it was massive. To anyone who wasn't, it'd be some obscure bit of history scored by an obscure player who would be nothing more than a name on a page to them. The shocking thing isn't really other people not singing or knowing about Warey, it's the moment you realise that a lot of your reference points are no longer shared by everyone because you're getting old! And tbh I think it’s a shit excuse because I don’t remember it but I know about it. And it’s a shame people didn’t join in because it is an obvious thing to do. But these things happen. |
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Post by tpholloway1 on Mar 13, 2022 9:26:49 GMT
The people who make the point about the generational thing are right. For someone my age Paul Ware was a hero and will always be one of my favourite ever Stoke players and the way he played football was how a schoolboy would want to play for the team he loves. We'll be with you Warey It's a pity some of the current squad haven't got Warey's attitude ie. 110%. |
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Post by callas12 on Mar 13, 2022 10:36:50 GMT
I guess it also comes down to how much of an indepth Stoke fan you choose to be when you first become aware and ingrained into all things Stoke City.
& that isn't meaning someone is anymore a Stoke fan than the next person if they do choose to go back in time in the history stakes of the club. Some fans probably pick up where they are and aren't really interested in what's gone on before. I know I found the history of my club interesting & whereas I sing 'we'll be with you' for eg, I didn't come along until 3 years after the 72 Cup win.
We're quick enough to & often sing 'we won it two times' so I do think the Autoglass Trophy & Auto windscreens Cup are definitely etched in our clubs history & rightly so. It may not be the FA Cup or League Cup but its days out at Wembley & the feeling of victory and winning something to an honours starved club like Stoke is special & should rightly be remembered. More so by those who were there admittedly but I never saw us win the Watney Cup but I still know all about it coz I've educated myself about our past.
& has been mentioned, it is sadly a sign that those who do remember Warey playing are getting older when a new generation of Stoke fans don't know who he was. Which is where credit should be given for someone explaining who he was and what he did in a small but important piece of our clubs history. If taking pics of Pyros & singing about Peterborough being a shithole is more exciting than learning about a club legend in his own right, I'm guessing this kind of highlights we are living in a different era now & supporting Stoke means different things to the latest generation of fans.
I do get Paul Ware may not be a household name to younger Stoke fans amongst us but he's definitely part of our DNA and history. His free kick meant as much to me that night at London Road as Higginbothams did v West Ham to take us through to the FA Cup final. Maybe the club haven't promoted Warey enough along the way, but I do still think any Stoke fan born since he played for us should at least of heard of him & appreciate his contribution to our club & history.
The fact he has a street named after him on the estate the Victoria Ground once lay is also testimony to how highly regarded he is & should be locally. To my knowledge only Stoke greats have that privilege bestowed them. I never saw Stan, Banks or Eastham etc play but I still know about them and their contribution to SCFC. To my knowledge there isn't even a Mark Stein street anywhere in S-O-T but I'd be suprised if most Stoke fans haven't heard of him even if born since his time.
Does it really matter on the grand scheme of things, no probably not.
But fair play to the OP for trying to get a song about Warey going, & for at least trying to educate those around him who didn't know about what he did for us. Peterborough's London Road will always be associated with Wareys free kick & just to sing a quick 'One Paul Ware' song in that away end where the goal was scored would of been a nice touch. I'm sure even fans who weren't fully aware of Paul Ware could of at least done that. Appears not..
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Post by foxysgloves on Mar 13, 2022 10:53:01 GMT
We tried to start it, a few joined in but got a response off a lad next to me who said "No, we need to get a song going about Baker." He then followed that up with the imaginative "You're fucking shit" after singing "Peterboroughs a shit hole, I wanna go home." for most of the game. Thought it was pretty nice there to be fair.😕 Sums up an away game nowadays unfortunately. Devoid of anything clever, classy or funny, but at least you got a video of letting smoke bombs off on the station and ale getting thrown everywhere in the concourse before kick off. Top day👍🏼 On reflection, there is only one Paul Ware and thanks for the memories you made mate. We couldn't give you a big enough rendition today, but some were definitely thinking of you, on that pitch, scoring that goal, at that end, in that game. "We've won it two times!" Just remember. We do have our share of dickheads (But what club doesn’t) ,however, for every numpty there are at least three fans like you. Decent. Loyal. Proud. |
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 13, 2022 10:56:42 GMT
Away fan bingo yet again:
Your support is...
I wanna go home...
How shit must you be..
Is this a...
Zero imagination, zero positivity.
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Post by callas12 on Mar 13, 2022 11:18:05 GMT
Away fan bingo yet again: Your support is... I wanna go home... How shit must you be.. Is this a... Zero imagination, zero positivity. It's just like a picked up carbon copy of what visiting fans sing to us at the Bet365, with the difference being they aren't being far wrong in what they're singing about us. I sit there cringing inside when the away end at our place get going, especially as it seemed to be 15-20mins in at one point, now it seems like they start singing it 5mins in, things must be that bad! Although as has been mentioned above, singing 'We are staying up' yesterday is quite a good tongue in cheek song to have started up, bravo to the founder(s) of that little gem! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 11:20:36 GMT
Away fan bingo yet again: Your support is... I wanna go home... How shit must you be.. Is this a... Zero imagination, zero positivity. What’s there to be positive about? 😂 |
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Post by penkhullite on Mar 13, 2022 12:45:00 GMT
You know what, you're right and then I had the "audacity" of explaining why I was singing it and let's get back to the issue, they had the "audacity" of not giving a fuck, even when I explained...anyway suppose you had to be there. I also made sure I got to the ground early to applaud the 72 team last week, I was born in 1980. Clapped and put flowers down at Banksy's memorial, I was born in 1980. Likewise when I was a kid for Waddington. I was born in 1980. Skived off after dinner for work for Stans send off. Need I go on? I'm a similar age to you, and did all those things too, but as much as that Warey moment meant to us, and as much as his death upset me, I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone younger to really know about him or understand it. Warey was a wholehearted but average League One player. The moment in question was in an Autoglass Cup game. It was (unbelievably) 30 years ago. To anyone who was there, given the context of what was going on at the time, it was massive. To anyone who wasn't, it'd be some obscure bit of history scored by an obscure player who would be nothing more than a name on a page to them. The shocking thing isn't really other people not singing or knowing about Warey, it's the moment you realise that a lot of your reference points are no longer shared by everyone because you're getting old! You're right about the getting old bit unfortunately! Also agree that there might be a bit of obscurity for some, but isnt that where as a supporter you want to understand and learn? However the original point was there were some around us that just didn't want to know or listen as much as it was a nod to Paul Ware. Maybe got to move on and accept that's just how some people are, but thought that if you've given up a Saturday to watch our very mediocre team, in a shite ground and paid nearly 30 quid for the privilege, it was the right audience. It appears not unfortunately. |
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Post by penkhullite on Mar 13, 2022 12:51:02 GMT
You know what, you're right and then I had the "audacity" of explaining why I was singing it and let's get back to the issue, they had the "audacity" of not giving a fuck, even when I explained...anyway suppose you had to be there. I also made sure I got to the ground early to applaud the 72 team last week, I was born in 1980. Clapped and put flowers down at Banksy's memorial, I was born in 1980. Likewise when I was a kid for Waddington. I was born in 1980. Skived off after dinner for work for Stans send off. Need I go on? I don’t see the issue. They wanted to sing thing, you wanted to sing another. Do you want a medal? Ok, you don't see it. I do. Like I said though, you maybe had to be there. Oh, and no medal required thanks sweetheart. Addressing someone so knowledgeable and respected on here really is prize enough.😘 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 12:54:42 GMT
I don’t see the issue. They wanted to sing thing, you wanted to sing another. Do you want a medal? Ok, you don't see it. I do. Like I said though, you maybe had to be there. Oh, and no medal required thanks sweetheart. Addressing someone so knowledgeable and respected on here really is prize enough.😘 Your post above sums it up nicely. It’s not worth getting arsed about. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 13, 2022 14:52:09 GMT
I'm a similar age to you, and did all those things too, but as much as that Warey moment meant to us, and as much as his death upset me, I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone younger to really know about him or understand it. Warey was a wholehearted but average League One player. The moment in question was in an Autoglass Cup game. It was (unbelievably) 30 years ago. To anyone who was there, given the context of what was going on at the time, it was massive. To anyone who wasn't, it'd be some obscure bit of history scored by an obscure player who would be nothing more than a name on a page to them. The shocking thing isn't really other people not singing or knowing about Warey, it's the moment you realise that a lot of your reference points are no longer shared by everyone because you're getting old! And tbh I think it’s a shit excuse because I don’t remember it but I know about it. And it’s a shame people didn’t join in because it is an obvious thing to do. But these things happen. I bet a lot of people there won't even know about it though. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 13, 2022 14:53:24 GMT
I'm a similar age to you, and did all those things too, but as much as that Warey moment meant to us, and as much as his death upset me, I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone younger to really know about him or understand it. Warey was a wholehearted but average League One player. The moment in question was in an Autoglass Cup game. It was (unbelievably) 30 years ago. To anyone who was there, given the context of what was going on at the time, it was massive. To anyone who wasn't, it'd be some obscure bit of history scored by an obscure player who would be nothing more than a name on a page to them. The shocking thing isn't really other people not singing or knowing about Warey, it's the moment you realise that a lot of your reference points are no longer shared by everyone because you're getting old! You're right about the getting old bit unfortunately! Also agree that there might be a bit of obscurity for some, but isnt that where as a supporter you want to understand and learn? However the original point was there were some around us that just didn't want to know or listen as much as it was a nod to Paul Ware. Maybe got to move on and accept that's just how some people are, but thought that if you've given up a Saturday to watch our very mediocre team, in a shite ground and paid nearly 30 quid for the privilege, it was the right audience. It appears not unfortunately. A lot are there just to get pissed up. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 13, 2022 15:02:19 GMT
And tbh I think it’s a shit excuse because I don’t remember it but I know about it. And it’s a shame people didn’t join in because it is an obvious thing to do. But these things happen. I bet a lot of people there won't even know about it though. No I agree they won’t. Especially the younger fans who started following us around the PL. It wasn’t really until he died that I knew the significance of him and that moment. But that’s just because I was too young to care then. I think it’s a genuine shame it didn’t get started but it’s also just one of those things for the reasons you’ve highlighted. A bit of education wouldn’t go amiss mind! |
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Post by callas12 on Mar 13, 2022 15:50:43 GMT
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