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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 9, 2022 8:41:18 GMT
Whatever you think of the manager and the team, you support them during the match at the very least, through thick and thin, that’s why we are called supporters. Over 50% of the people there tonight are not true supporters in my eyes. Some of the things I heard were shocking, what must the players be thinking, it’s certainly not going to inspire them. Sacked in the morning, we’re fucking shit, songs about players from 10 years ago??? I don’t get it. Support the team or don’t bother coming, you’d be much better staying at home. See if it improves at Peterborough. I’ll be there supporting, I hope you will too….. I won’t hold my breath Top post mate but will be sadly lost on the “ I know better brigade “ on here
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Post by chad on Mar 9, 2022 8:51:37 GMT
Some of the chants last night were a bit cringeworthy I can understand the Sacked in the Morning and O’Neil Out. But You’re Nothing Special, we lose every week. And We’re so Shit it’s Unbelievable”. Way over the top and very unfair on the players
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 9, 2022 8:55:59 GMT
Did the hostile chanting start once we went a goal down or was it going on from the start?
The support coming across on the TV, although low in number, was certainly noisy and there was no hint of negativity until we went a goal down.
I don't think we played badly last night. We dominated the game, they had 1 shot at goal and stuck it in the top corner. We hit the post twice, had several near misses where we should have done better, wasted good situations with a poor final ball, kept going when behind and bagged a late equaliser. It was a lot more positive than previous games and certainly a big improvement v Saturday.
I get that they were shit and are at the bottom of the league but we aren't exactly pulling up trees ourselves and are arguably in worse form than they are.
Whilst the result is disappointing, I'm not sure the same can be said of the performance and I suspect the hostility was born out of previous performances rather than the one they were watching on the night.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 9, 2022 9:03:20 GMT
VIS UNITA FORTIOR ……….
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 9, 2022 9:04:33 GMT
Did the hostile chanting start once we went a goal down or was it going on from the start? The support coming across on the TV, although low in number, was certainly noisy and there was no hint of negativity until we went a goal down. I don't think we played badly last night. We dominated the game, they had 1 shot at goal and stuck it in the top corner. We hit the post twice, had several near misses where we should have done better, wasted good situations with a poor final ball, kept going when behind and bagged a late equaliser. It was a lot more positive than previous games and certainly a big improvement v Saturday. I get that they were shit and are at the bottom of the league but we aren't exactly pulling up trees ourselves and are arguably in worse form than they are. Whilst the result is disappointing, I'm not sure the same can be said of the performance and I suspect the hostility was born out of previous performances rather than the one they were watching on the night. the crowd were singing MON songs first half and the atmosphere was good, not a hint of negativity until they scored other than the usual groans and moans when cross after cross went flashing by with no one being on the end of them. Then they scored from their first (only) meaningful chance all game and it started. Barnsley had just beaten QPR and Middlesbrough in their last two home games by the way.......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 9:17:59 GMT
A far cry from when MoN took his first game at Barnsley away.
He has assembled a squad of shit though!
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Post by stokeuk474 on Mar 9, 2022 9:23:36 GMT
I went last night and as soon as I arrived, you could feel there was a really flat atmosphere. Understandable with the shit we've had served up the last few weeks. 1st half, we got behind the lads but it was nothing like other away games I've been to this season as we've nothing to play for now except the shirt. There was no intensity to it. 2nd half it turned a bit toxic, and the two nob heads a couple of rows down from me started chucking handbags at each other which summed it up to be honest All in all, I can see why people feel the need to boo and sing those songs about Ricardo Fuller, and how shit we are etc, because we are. People are longing for those days again where we had mercurial players, players who would run through a brick wall for the club, the fans. With the players we have, and the money/wages we've spent, we should be winning at places like Barnsley, who are in the bottom 3 and have a goal difference of minus fucking 26. We had 2 shots on target. It's simply not good enough. There is an apathy, a lethargy running through the team at the moment, and I am sick to the back teeth of watching us fuck about with it at the back, and then either give it away and end up conceding, or just end up hoofing it anyway. What is the point??! He's got till the end of the season for me, but unless we show we're up for actually making a proper fist of it next season(not just until December) then he's a gonner.
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Post by Scouse on Mar 9, 2022 9:25:57 GMT
Did the hostile chanting start once we went a goal down or was it going on from the start? The support coming across on the TV, although low in number, was certainly noisy and there was no hint of negativity until we went a goal down. I don't think we played badly last night. We dominated the game, they had 1 shot at goal and stuck it in the top corner. We hit the post twice, had several near misses where we should have done better, wasted good situations with a poor final ball, kept going when behind and bagged a late equaliser. It was a lot more positive than previous games and certainly a big improvement v Saturday. I get that they were shit and are at the bottom of the league but we aren't exactly pulling up trees ourselves and are arguably in worse form than they are. Whilst the result is disappointing, I'm not sure the same can be said of the performance and I suspect the hostility was born out of previous performances rather than the one they were watching on the night. obviously increased when they scored , but .. There was general negativity in the air from the set go especially from a group at the back of the stand ..the Manc ..never win at home never win away was sung before the game on the concourse amongst others dont get me wrong it’s frustrating for all ..even those stoically behind the manager aren’t blind , but do tend to question the options , at the other end of the spectrum there’s those ( probably equally as frustrated ) who tend to go for the off the fence approach .. Theres also however an element that for them the gallows humour approach is now the norm and almost appear to get their enjoyment / kicks from bashing the club , manager and players etc.. when things get tense that grates on still a good slice of the support ..hence trouble breaks out amongst the support TBH historically our repertoire of songs in support of the team / players has always been thin on the ground .. never more so now .. most songs that there are include the irrelevance of Vale , slagging off our own or abuse at the opposition ..it’s all very depressing stuff in an already depressing situation and does little to help keep the support or spirits together ( other than those in their group , but hey ho I guess that’s the aim ..to bring a totally depressed state about the place ) little wonder though why the various factions clash ..and some look to defend the club from at times incessant sniping from within .. very few like to hear their own club slagged off in song , especially when on the night they were half decent and the slagging off is coming from their own
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 9, 2022 9:34:27 GMT
The same fuckin morons were singing “ how shit must you be we’re winning away” after 5 away wins not too long ago🙄 Imagine if the players and manager said what they really thought
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Post by uknorse on Mar 9, 2022 10:26:27 GMT
Whatever you think of the manager and the team, you support them during the match at the very least, through thick and thin, that’s why we are called supporters. Over 50% of the people there tonight are not true supporters in my eyes. Some of the things I heard were shocking, what must the players be thinking, it’s certainly not going to inspire them. Sacked in the morning, we’re fucking shit, songs about players from 10 years ago??? I don’t get it. Support the team or don’t bother coming, you’d be much better staying at home. See if it improves at Peterborough. I’ll be there supporting, I hope you will too….. I won’t hold my breath If you thought last night was bad....... you had better brace yourself for rest of the season fella
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Post by thevoid on Mar 9, 2022 10:28:42 GMT
They paid to attend and so they're supporters.
How else do they voice their displeasure?
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Post by thevoid on Mar 9, 2022 10:29:30 GMT
I disagree. If you want someone sacked, you show that, if you’re unhappy you boo. It’s their choice. It’s got sod all to do with you or anyone else. You boo at the end of the match yes (I’ll never boo the team btw), you shout at the end of the match yes but during the match you support. It still would have had the same effect. Would it? They'll be off down the tunnel unless they have to pass the away end to get there
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 9, 2022 15:54:29 GMT
You boo at the end of the match yes (I’ll never boo the team btw), you shout at the end of the match yes but during the match you support. It still would have had the same effect. Why? They won’t hear that. What’s the point? We’re not going down, we’re not going up. There’s nothing to support. They need to be told that they’re useless. More importantly the board need to hear it. It may wake that lot up. Oh yes. I’ve always found that, if you want someone to improve, you just moan at them every chance you get and call them as many names as you can think of until they are miserable and continue to feel even less motivated. That’s always worked. The less motivated a player is, the better they are I always say.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 9, 2022 16:17:26 GMT
Did the hostile chanting start once we went a goal down or was it going on from the start? The support coming across on the TV, although low in number, was certainly noisy and there was no hint of negativity until we went a goal down. I don't think we played badly last night. We dominated the game, they had 1 shot at goal and stuck it in the top corner. We hit the post twice, had several near misses where we should have done better, wasted good situations with a poor final ball, kept going when behind and bagged a late equaliser. It was a lot more positive than previous games and certainly a big improvement v Saturday. I get that they were shit and are at the bottom of the league but we aren't exactly pulling up trees ourselves and are arguably in worse form than they are. Whilst the result is disappointing, I'm not sure the same can be said of the performance and I suspect the hostility was born out of previous performances rather than the one they were watching on the night. They had the same amount of shots on goal as us btw, both had two, it was pathetic.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 9, 2022 16:22:22 GMT
Did the hostile chanting start once we went a goal down or was it going on from the start? The support coming across on the TV, although low in number, was certainly noisy and there was no hint of negativity until we went a goal down. I don't think we played badly last night. We dominated the game, they had 1 shot at goal and stuck it in the top corner. We hit the post twice, had several near misses where we should have done better, wasted good situations with a poor final ball, kept going when behind and bagged a late equaliser. It was a lot more positive than previous games and certainly a big improvement v Saturday. I get that they were shit and are at the bottom of the league but we aren't exactly pulling up trees ourselves and are arguably in worse form than they are. Whilst the result is disappointing, I'm not sure the same can be said of the performance and I suspect the hostility was born out of previous performances rather than the one they were watching on the night. They had the same amount of shots on goal as us btw, both had two, it was pathetic. 0-0 was going to be the result if it wasn't for 2 bits of quality. An awful spectacle.
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Post by a on Mar 9, 2022 16:33:11 GMT
Fans, as you suggest, should now vote with their feet. Don’t turn up and hope that a silent, empty stadium gives the owners the impetus to do the right thing. It's a silent stadium anyway. Empty seats would be hard to ignore though, but yea even the Blackpool game was silent
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2022 16:33:29 GMT
Why? They won’t hear that. What’s the point? We’re not going down, we’re not going up. There’s nothing to support. They need to be told that they’re useless. More importantly the board need to hear it. It may wake that lot up. Oh yes. I’ve always found that, if you want someone to improve, you just moan at them every chance you get and call them as many names as you can think of until they are miserable and continue to feel even less motivated. That’s always worked. The less motivated a player is, the better they are I always say. If they had anything about them they’d want to throw criticism back into the faces of those making it.
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Post by a on Mar 9, 2022 16:37:04 GMT
The same fuckin morons were singing “ how shit must you be we’re winning away” after 5 away wins not too long ago🙄 Imagine if the players and manager said what they really thought I wish they would. It would be interesting rather than hearing the usual stuff. I’d especially like the idea of the players speaking their mind, because the performances need explaining!
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Post by a on Mar 9, 2022 16:38:01 GMT
Oh yes. I’ve always found that, if you want someone to improve, you just moan at them every chance you get and call them as many names as you can think of until they are miserable and continue to feel even less motivated. That’s always worked. The less motivated a player is, the better they are I always say. If they had anything about them they’d want to throw criticism back into the faces of those making it. Cupping the ears after a goal incoming 😂 maybe a shushing the crowd too.
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 9, 2022 17:04:03 GMT
Did the hostile chanting start once we went a goal down or was it going on from the start? The support coming across on the TV, although low in number, was certainly noisy and there was no hint of negativity until we went a goal down. I don't think we played badly last night. We dominated the game, they had 1 shot at goal and stuck it in the top corner. We hit the post twice, had several near misses where we should have done better, wasted good situations with a poor final ball, kept going when behind and bagged a late equaliser. It was a lot more positive than previous games and certainly a big improvement v Saturday. I get that they were shit and are at the bottom of the league but we aren't exactly pulling up trees ourselves and are arguably in worse form than they are. Whilst the result is disappointing, I'm not sure the same can be said of the performance and I suspect the hostility was born out of previous performances rather than the one they were watching on the night. As soon as they scored. I swear they were willing Barnsley to score. I really hate the Man City 'we never win at home and we never win away' song and the various 'how shit must you be' variants. Don't know why they bother going - they must have been gutted on 95 minutes.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 9, 2022 21:20:33 GMT
Why? They won’t hear that. What’s the point? We’re not going down, we’re not going up. There’s nothing to support. They need to be told that they’re useless. More importantly the board need to hear it. It may wake that lot up. Oh yes. I’ve always found that, if you want someone to improve, you just moan at them every chance you get and call them as many names as you can think of until they are miserable and continue to feel even less motivated. That’s always worked. The less motivated a player is, the better they are I always say. You shouldn't need motivating for 4 hours work a week if you have a footballer's salary and lifestyle. Let's flip it round, fans paying their hard earned cash might lose their motivation after six years of utter dross, successive capitulations from December onwards and 3 wins from 17. As for the players' feelings, they can take a running jump. Other than a couple of exceptions, I have no affinity or fondness for most of our current squad
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 10, 2022 6:01:24 GMT
I wouldn’t do it however I can see why people do.
With our recent performances it’s the only way they feel they’ll be heard by the board and it’s a way that they can show to their dissatisfaction and how they’ve had enough of the woeful performance and tactics. Otherwise the Coates might think they’re happy with how things are.
I’d always get behind the lads during the game but i don’t go every week due to distance and work so it probably doesn’t hit me so hard.
I guess when people desperately want change this is one of the few ways they can show it as the Coates family have a habit of not wanting to change things.
It’s a real shame as I really like MON and I had really high hopes even at the start of Feb when we were playing some exciting stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 12:44:42 GMT
If they had anything about them they’d want to throw criticism back into the faces of those making it. Cupping the ears after a goal incoming 😂 maybe a shushing the crowd too. If some dish it out to a player, don't go crying when they give it back.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 10, 2022 12:46:21 GMT
Cupping the ears after a goal incoming 😂 maybe a shushing the crowd too. If some dish it out to a player, don't go crying when they give it back. I agree in the moment. But cupping the ears always seems a bit daft to me. Like Allen doing it. He’s useless for all this time, you scored a goal Joe, well done….big deal. Always seems a bit 🤷♂️
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 12:52:22 GMT
A far cry from when MoN took his first game at Barnsley away. He has assembled a squad of shit though! I don't think he has at all. The squad is decent which is the most frustrating thing. Been hard to get them all fit at once but we have a far better squad than most for me. Why I wouldn't want him gone just yet.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Mar 10, 2022 13:07:44 GMT
In 2006 there were fights in the Stoke end at the Molineux over the manager, the players, the approach after a 2-0 loss which put us at 9 games with only one win. Two games later we would go to Elland Road and win 4-0. I'm not saying this will happen again but we have seen things turn around.
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Post by a on Mar 10, 2022 14:58:49 GMT
Cupping the ears after a goal incoming 😂 maybe a shushing the crowd too. If some dish it out to a player, don't go crying when they give it back. Oh I know but it’s cute when they’ve been largely beyond poor, they might have short memories 😂
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 10, 2022 15:12:31 GMT
A large part of UK society expects everything on a plate these days and with the recent time in the Premier League and debacle of the past few years, I think both things have crept into the matchday (lack of) atmosphere at home. I missed the first half against Barnsley, but there was definitely a period in the second half where I thought we were good, and there wasn't a lack of effort. It's an awkward situation because at times, the team have needed to show more to help generate an atmosphere. But on the other hand, the atmosphere at home doesn't help the team, and it could be a reason why we generally seem a better team away.
I said a few weeks ago that I didn't think the malaise around the club had lifted, and it never will at this rate. I hope we keep faith with O'Neill and if we're not decimated by injuries again, believe we'll be challenging for promotion next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2022 15:23:51 GMT
If some dish it out to a player, don't go crying when they give it back. Oh I know but it’s cute when they’ve been largely beyond poor, they might have short memories 😂 Not really
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Post by kustokie on Mar 10, 2022 15:36:09 GMT
Apart from the goal there’s wasn’t exactly a lot to cheer about.
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