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Post by werrington on Mar 1, 2022 12:59:35 GMT
It was Bojan who unwittingly and ultimately caused his departure though as he was on the bench at Bolton away when the fans were singing his name It was that singing that caused Rowett to take the support on and the rest is history I think there was more to it than just that mate. The Bojan issue was just a symptom of a wider dissatisfaction with Rowett's tedious and incompetent set-up. If he could've found room for a shred of creativity in the most expensively assembled side in the league, I don't think he would've copped half the flak he did. Jones certainly didn't. The man who found Will Hughes too exotic and fancy dan for his tastes was never going to be able to stomach Bojan though. Rowett's the kind of bloke who goes to a curryhouse and asks for the chicken nuggets. Oh yeah mate the support was already turning but his sarcasm towards the support with his Delap comment really did tip the scales to the point of no return
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Post by onionman on Mar 1, 2022 13:18:54 GMT
I still fail to understand why Bojan and also players such a Diouf were not part of our push to regain Premier League status. Starts with 'G' and ends with 'Arry Rowett'. Garry with 2 Rs would have suited him down to the ground. As if his parents wanted to give him an exotic name but didn’t have the imagination to come up with something that sounded Spanish or Italian, so thought, “let’s call him Gary, but with an extra R.” The equivalent of having unlimited funds to build a promotion chasing football team, then choosing James McClean as your flair player.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2022 13:20:40 GMT
Starts with 'G' and ends with 'Arry Rowett'. Garry with 2 Rs would have suited him down to the ground. As if his parents wanted to give him an exotic name but didn’t have the imagination to come up with something that sounded Spanish or Italian, so thought, “let’s call him Gary, but with an extra R.” The equivalent of having unlimited funds to build a promotion chasing football team, then choosing James McClean as your flair player. I keep doing that, he just looks like a Garry to me for some reason.
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 1, 2022 16:50:00 GMT
Too fragile for English football. No way. He was rarely injured because he was quick and nimble, which allowed him to avoid crunching tackles. He is very similar in build and style to George Eastham who was equally adept at avoiding tackles at a time when the game was far more physical. Bojan also knew he had Shawcross and Hugh to take care of him if things got rough. Eastham had Smith and Bloor and nobody messed with them. His ruptured ACL was a result of catching his foot in the turf. Bojan’s entire career was one long physio appointment. It wasn’t just his issues with mental health that lost him his chance at Barcelona. He played more games for BCN and the one season in their B team than he did in the 8 seasons following that. From 2011-2018 he managed a total of 74 league games, many of those were not likely to be starts. He was a phenomenal talent, but he was the epitome of a player whose injuries ruined the chance of a better career.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 1, 2022 17:52:01 GMT
Playing him against Rochdale on a shit pitch ruined him - one of LMHs mistakes......
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Post by thevoid on Mar 1, 2022 17:53:36 GMT
Too fragile for English football. No more fragile than Nick Powell
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 1, 2022 17:58:47 GMT
That photo of Bohan wheeling away after scoring the winner at Leicester followed by Arnie and SuperJon both screaming their heads off is still one of my favourite images
Three thousand of us there that day, made a racket all game, great memories.
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Post by chad on Mar 1, 2022 18:29:29 GMT
Playing him against Rochdale on a shit pitch ruined him - one of LMHs mistakes...... He played his best football AFTER that injury
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2022 18:41:16 GMT
Playing him against Rochdale on a shit pitch ruined him - one of LMHs mistakes...... He played his best football AFTER that injury He didn’t really though did he? Not consistently. There were two, maybe 2.5 games tops where he really looked like the Bojan of old.
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Post by pavel on Mar 1, 2022 19:04:48 GMT
A star on the pitch and a star off it. Great player and lovely outlook on life, watched him play for Barca as well as Stoke, very special. He could knock on any door on S-on-T and be welcomed in as a long lost best friend. A real gent of a man.
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Post by santy on Mar 1, 2022 19:09:32 GMT
He played his best football AFTER that injury He didn’t really though did he? Not consistently. There were two, maybe 2.5 games tops where he really looked like the Bojan of old. I mean its not like its even hard to check this stuff in the present day. Injury came in January 2015. He returned in July 2015, just in time for the 2015-16 season. He was then phased out the following season by Hughes.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2022 19:16:34 GMT
He didn’t really though did he? Not consistently. There were two, maybe 2.5 games tops where he really looked like the Bojan of old. I mean its not like its even hard to check this stuff in the present day. Injury came in January 2015. He returned in July 2015, just in time for the 2015-16 season. He was then phased out the following season by Hughes. What do you mean ‘check this stuff’, it’s my opinion?
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Post by santy on Mar 1, 2022 19:20:40 GMT
Fair enough. It's about as valid as the opinion that clouds are made of marshmallow but you're right, its your opinion.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2022 19:21:52 GMT
Fair enough. It's about as valid as the opinion that clouds are made of marshmallow but you're right, its your opinion. Do talk me through why that is. I’m happy to show my working if you are…
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Post by Goonie on Mar 1, 2022 19:26:10 GMT
Dear Sir Peter
After all the managerial failures through our managerial recruitment since the departure of LMH, here is a fitting candidate for the role of sporting director. The morale has been dire for so long that the this small gesture would have the fans buzzing. Indeed why not being him back in a playing capacity? Is he worse than what we have?
Now you probably feel that you owe us nothing, after the free travel and frozen ticket prices but what a filip it would be to bring him home. What a statement! Get it done sir while you can before he learns Japanese or Chinese and is whisked off to ply his directing accumen in the oriental wasteland.
Go on. Do it for Stoke!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 1, 2022 19:29:10 GMT
What a guy.
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Post by santy on Mar 1, 2022 19:31:32 GMT
Your lack of understanding isn't my responsibility. It's generally well established by this point that the amount of effort required to shift the opinion a person holds is practically insurmountable. I could put in a lot of effort, collate highlight clips, scour results and you just as easily say "But my opinion"
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 1, 2022 19:38:28 GMT
Your lack of understanding isn't my responsibility. It's generally well established by this point that the amount of effort required to shift the opinion a person holds is practically insurmountable. I could put in a lot of effort, collate highlight clips, scour results and you just as easily say "But my opinion" My ‘lack of understanding’, good one. I like Bojan a lot but the player in that run of games from West Ham to Rochdale looked one of the best players in the Premier League and ripped some of the best teams in the Premier League to shreds. After the injury he had some decent games and one or two outstanding games but he never consistently looked that exhilarating superstar he did before Spotland. Nor did he at Mainz, Alaves, or Montreal.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 1, 2022 20:49:03 GMT
Playing him against Rochdale on a shit pitch ruined him - one of LMHs mistakes...... He played his best football AFTER that injury Says you - he was never the same after that lay off and it was clear that it had affected him psychologically IMHO
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Post by thevoid on Mar 1, 2022 20:51:35 GMT
Wonder if he fancies getting into coaching? If so, bring him home 👍
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Post by jokker on Mar 1, 2022 21:55:09 GMT
Wonder if he fancies getting into coaching? If so, bring him home 👍 Did you read the article? Here, I'll do it for you: "I have learned a lot from studying to be a sporting director. I prefer it to coaching. A coach has to manage 25 players. The sporting director can really build a team. I like the idea of discovering young talent and focusing more on the human side of the game."
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Post by Bagwash on Mar 1, 2022 21:58:28 GMT
When he was at his best he was the best player I've seen in a Stoke shirt. Alan Hudson was the best player I have seen in a Stoke shirt and that was mostly in his second spell,I missed a fair chunk of him when he first come to the club. Bojan would definitely be in my top 5,superb footballer.
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Post by jokker on Mar 1, 2022 22:52:23 GMT
Dear Sir Peter After all the managerial failures through our managerial recruitment since the departure of LMH, here is a fitting candidate for the role of sporting director. The morale has been dire for so long that the this small gesture would have the fans buzzing. Indeed why not being him back in a playing capacity? Is he worse than what we have? Now you probably feel that you owe us nothing, after the free travel and frozen ticket prices but what a filip it would be to bring him home. What a statement! Get it done sir while you can before he learns Japanese or Chinese and is whisked off to ply his directing accumen in the oriental wasteland. Go on. Do it for Stoke! He's 31, younger than players like Allen, Chester, and Fletcher, and he has no experience in the job, just a theoretical background from being a player himself. I think an sd differs from coaching, where a previous career is the best background, though not every great player is a great coach. It's actually few former players that make it directly from the pitch into the office, and anyway Bojan appears to have an altogether different idea about the job. It sounds more like he wants to be the missing link that takes a player from youth to senior football. We are certainly lacking in that respect, but would O'Neill admit that, and would he accept that a part of his job description was given to someone else? Would Rowett, Jones, Hughes, or Pulis have accepted that`
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Post by Goonie on Mar 1, 2022 23:20:35 GMT
Dear Sir Peter After all the managerial failures through our managerial recruitment since the departure of LMH, here is a fitting candidate for the role of sporting director. The morale has been dire for so long that the this small gesture would have the fans buzzing. Indeed why not being him back in a playing capacity? Is he worse than what we have? Now you probably feel that you owe us nothing, after the free travel and frozen ticket prices but what a filip it would be to bring him home. What a statement! Get it done sir while you can before he learns Japanese or Chinese and is whisked off to ply his directing accumen in the oriental wasteland. Go on. Do it for Stoke! He's 31, younger than players like Allen, Chester, and Fletcher, and he has no experience in the job, just a theoretical background from being a player himself. I think an sd differs from coaching, where a previous career is the best background, though not every great player is a great coach. It's actually few former players that make it directly from the pitch into the office, and anyway Bojan appears to have an altogether different idea about the job. It sounds more like he wants to be the missing link that takes a player from youth to senior football. We are certainly lacking in that respect, but would O'Neill admit that, and would he accept that a part of his job description was given to someone else? Would Rowett, Jones, Hughes, or Pulis have accepted that` Great shout that 👍
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Post by whatsashig on Mar 1, 2022 23:32:18 GMT
Our own little genius. When we signed Bojan and Muniesa it was the beginning of something very special not seen for fifty years. "Bojan played 163 gamed for Barcelona in four seasons. He won La Liga three times, the Champions League twice and scored in a Copy(sic) del Rey final win. Lionel Messi was the only other player to score at least half a dozen goals for the club in each of those seasons." And yet he wasn't good enough to get in our side. It's laughable. Good luck in Japan, Bojan. OS. Was it the arse game he had a goal disallowed to make it 4:0 or is my mind as old as yours😁
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Mar 2, 2022 0:15:56 GMT
Gary fucking Rowett. 😠
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Post by kentpotter on Mar 2, 2022 7:33:30 GMT
When he was at his best he was the best player I've seen in a Stoke shirt. Alan Hudson was the best player I have seen in a Stoke shirt and that was mostly in his second spell,I missed a fair chunk of him when he first come to the club. Bojan would definitely be in my top 5,superb footballer. Exactly what I was going to say
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 2, 2022 9:52:47 GMT
When he was at his best he was the best player I've seen in a Stoke shirt. Alan Hudson was the best player I have seen in a Stoke shirt and that was mostly in his second spell,I missed a fair chunk of him when he first come to the club. Bojan would definitely be in my top 5,superb footballer. Ditto.....Huddy just used to massage and caress the ball, the skills that man had were phenominal. From the ones Ive seen Id go Huddy Bojan Arnie Its so subjective though isnt it.... for another thread
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Post by misterj on Mar 2, 2022 12:45:47 GMT
Bojan hired part of the orange tree to eat with the Barca centre half (the one with long hair) who came over to visit him on a fleeting visit
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 2, 2022 12:48:16 GMT
I still have no rational explanation why Rowett and then Jones chose to not use Bojan and Diouf in the Championship.
I mean, what the actual fuck?
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