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Post by Bera’s Beano on May 16, 2024 16:58:01 GMT
The fact that short of Bellingham, who he had no choice but to pick, Southgate completely ignores players from other leagues.
How has Tomori or Loftus-Cheek barely got a sniff since they’re playing for Milan in Italy?
One of things that has held the national team back for decades is that we don’t have the diversity of styles that other nations have so when we come up against football styles from all around the world, we struggle to adapt.
Bellingham is the key to this tournament, along with Kane needing to change the way he plays for England and focus on the goals.
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Post by lordb on May 16, 2024 20:17:10 GMT
The fact that short of Bellingham, who he had no choice but to pick, Southgate completely ignores players from other leagues. How has Tomori or Loftus-Cheek barely got a sniff since they’re playing for Milan in Italy? One of things that has held the national team back for decades is that we don’t have the diversity of styles that other nations have so when we come up against football styles from all around the world, we struggle to adapt. Bellingham is the key to this tournament, along with Kane needing to change the way he plays for England and focus on the goals. Because neither are all that Loftus Cheek is neat and tidy but not a difference maker Tomori has played poorly every time for England and made mistakes in the Champions League too Guehi far better As for Bellingham there's no bigger fan than Southgate
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May 18, 2024 10:12:50 GMT
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Post by Bera’s Beano on May 18, 2024 10:12:50 GMT
The fact that short of Bellingham, who he had no choice but to pick, Southgate completely ignores players from other leagues. How has Tomori or Loftus-Cheek barely got a sniff since they’re playing for Milan in Italy? One of things that has held the national team back for decades is that we don’t have the diversity of styles that other nations have so when we come up against football styles from all around the world, we struggle to adapt. Bellingham is the key to this tournament, along with Kane needing to change the way he plays for England and focus on the goals. Because neither are all that Loftus Cheek is neat and tidy but not a difference maker Tomori has played poorly every time for England and made mistakes in the Champions League too Guehi far better As for Bellingham there's no bigger fan than Southgate So Gallagher, Phillips or Henderson are difference makers? Short of Bellingham and Rice who are miles ahead, I don't think we have a midfielder better than Loftus-Cheek, he was better than Gallagher for Chelsea and is now a regular and team of the season player in Italy for one of the biggest clubs there. As described, he’s gone abroad, adapted and learned a new style and will bring valuable experience, but Southgate won’t pick him or even seem to entertain it, I’d love it if he did. I want Southgate to succeed and win us this tournament, but I just don’t think he has the tactical ability. He may love Bellingham now, but he could have put him in earlier than he has, instead of waiting until everyone was begging for him, Southgate’s not a free thinker I’m afraid. We may waste Englands best ever striker and possibly one of its best ever players if we don’t replace Southgate after this tournament. I like him by the way, nothing against him, just don’t think he’s a good enough manager, it’s a shame.
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May 18, 2024 10:21:55 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 18, 2024 10:21:55 GMT
Because neither are all that Loftus Cheek is neat and tidy but not a difference maker Tomori has played poorly every time for England and made mistakes in the Champions League too Guehi far better As for Bellingham there's no bigger fan than Southgate So Gallagher, Phillips or Henderson are difference makers? Short of Bellingham and Rice who are miles ahead, I don't think we have a midfielder better than Loftus-Cheek, he was better than Gallagher for Chelsea and is now a regular and team of the season player in Italy for one of the biggest clubs there. As described, he’s gone abroad, adapted and learned a new style and will bring valuable experience, but Southgate won’t pick him or even seem to entertain it, I’d love it if he did. I want Southgate to succeed and win us this tournament, but I just don’t think he has the tactical ability. He may love Bellingham now, but he could have put him in earlier than he has, instead of waiting until everyone was begging for him, Southgate’s not a free thinker I’m afraid. We may waste Englands best ever striker and possibly one of its best ever players if we don’t replace Southgate after this tournament. I like him by the way, nothing against him, just don’t think he’s a good enough manager, it’s a shame. No none of those 3 are Phillips and Henderson won't be in squad either Southgate played Bellingham way before 'everyone was begging him' same with Saka he was using both very early There is a strong argument for playing Bellingham at 8 with Foden at 10 however I see that Southgate will play Bellingham at 10 with Foden on the left Personally would play Alexander Arnold or Mainoo at 8 but he's going to play Gallagher
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May 20, 2024 20:37:29 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 20, 2024 20:37:29 GMT
Provisional squad announcement tomorrow
Will there be any surprises?
How many of the unfit defenders will he gamble with?
Not convinced he'll actually take 26 in the end
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May 20, 2024 20:49:22 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 20, 2024 20:49:22 GMT
Provisional squad announcement tomorrow Will there be any surprises? How many of the unfit defenders will he gamble with? Not convinced he'll actually take 26 in the end Why wouldn’t he take 26? That’s just stupid…..ah.
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May 20, 2024 20:51:37 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 20, 2024 20:51:37 GMT
Provisional squad announcement tomorrow Will there be any surprises? How many of the unfit defenders will he gamble with? Not convinced he'll actually take 26 in the end Why wouldn’t he take 26? That’s just stupid…..ah. I think he sees it as too many players to keep happy think he will take at least 24 though I'd take 26 especially if gambling on a couple like Shaw and Guehi
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May 20, 2024 20:57:12 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 20, 2024 20:57:12 GMT
Why wouldn’t he take 26? That’s just stupid…..ah. I think he sees it as too many players to keep happy think he will take at least 24 though I'd take 26 especially if gambling on a couple like Shaw and Guehi Standard manager that can’t be arsed to be manage. I think he’ll take 26 tbh. You’ve got to have the options.
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Post by Ron on May 20, 2024 23:03:56 GMT
I’d genuinely pick eze and see if olise was game seeing as he’s eligible. Both bang in form. Adam Wharton is better than mainoo too. Mainoo ain’t all that. Good shout for loftus cheek too on here. Centre back is a massive issue bar stones. Back up to Pickford unclear too.
Despite our attacking wealth, over never known us have such a shite pool of centre backs. Branthwaite will become the real deal but not sure he’s there just yet.. he’s on the plane mind for me.
Southgate will never win anything though. Happy to be proven wrong but I just can’t have him- he just never seems to get it right when it really matters.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 9:39:44 GMT
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May 21, 2024 9:41:49 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on May 21, 2024 9:41:49 GMT
If Adam Wharton isn't selected it's a farce. Then again international football is a farce anyway
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Post by spiderpuss on May 21, 2024 10:12:13 GMT
Not at all sure why were announcing squads when the domestic season still has one of its marquee fixtures to play!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 10:12:48 GMT
Wharton in the initial 30+ provisional
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 10:15:31 GMT
No Chilwell - but Colwill, Shaw and Bowen in
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Post by stokiejoe89 on May 21, 2024 10:20:29 GMT
No Chilwell - but Colwill, Shaw and Bowen in Hopefully Wharton goes. Outstanding player. England really should try for Olise too. But Southgate wouldn't have any idea how use a player of that talent
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May 21, 2024 10:20:30 GMT
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Post by middleoftheboothen on May 21, 2024 10:20:30 GMT
No Chilwell - but Colwill, Shaw and Bowen in Bowen certainly deserves his place. He's been brilliant this season.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 10:22:40 GMT
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May 21, 2024 10:25:19 GMT
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Post by st13stokie on May 21, 2024 10:25:19 GMT
Wharton for Henderson, Eze for Rashford, Gordon for Grealish. Harvey Elliot over Curtis Jones for me.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on May 21, 2024 10:28:51 GMT
Wharton for Henderson, Eze for Rashford, Gordon for Grealish. Harvey Elliot over Curtis Jones for me. Grealish will go I reckon. The way he drags defenders put of position and creates space is vital. No other player like that
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Post by LGH87 on May 21, 2024 10:31:32 GMT
Quansah
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 21, 2024 10:32:03 GMT
Surely not Trafford over Butland?
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 10:32:58 GMT
Quansah You'd think he'd be one that's chopped when it's reduced to 26 He has looked promising though
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 10:33:42 GMT
Surely not Trafford over Butland? Looks like he's named 4 in the provisional 32/33 - Pickford, Ramsdale, Henderson and Trafford. So no Butland
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Post by LGH87 on May 21, 2024 10:36:49 GMT
Quansah You'd think he'd be one that's chopped when it's reduced to 26 He has looked promising though Surely doesn't make it, he doesn't even start for the 21's.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 10:51:07 GMT
From the various journo leaks, seems to be maybe this so far, with space for possibly another 2 or 3 depending on how many more than 26 he goes for in the initial squad before whittling it down
Pickford Ramsdale Henderson Trafford Walker TAA Trippier Branthwaite Stones Maguire Guehi Dier Colwill Quansah Shaw Rice Bellingham Wharton Gallagher Jones Mainoo Foden Saka Gordon Eze Palmer Maddison Kane Watkins
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May 21, 2024 10:58:33 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 21, 2024 10:58:33 GMT
From the various journo leaks, seems to be maybe this so far, with space for possibly another 2 or 3 depending on how many more than 26 he goes for in the initial squad before whittling it down Pickford Ramsdale Henderson Trafford Walker TAA Trippier Branthwaite Stones Maguire Guehi Dier Colwill Quansah Shaw Rice Bellingham Wharton Gallagher Jones Mainoo Foden Saka Gordon Eze Palmer Maddison Kane Watkins No Grealish? Can't see that.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 11:00:05 GMT
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May 21, 2024 11:01:26 GMT
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Post by shrewspotter on May 21, 2024 11:01:26 GMT
From the various journo leaks, seems to be maybe this so far, with space for possibly another 2 or 3 depending on how many more than 26 he goes for in the initial squad before whittling it down Pickford Ramsdale Henderson Trafford Walker TAA Trippier Branthwaite Stones Maguire Guehi Dier Colwill Quansah Shaw Rice Bellingham Wharton Gallagher Jones Mainoo Foden Saka Gordon Eze Palmer Maddison Kane Watkins hard on Butland I think
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Post by FullerMagic on May 21, 2024 11:04:29 GMT
From the various journo leaks, seems to be maybe this so far, with space for possibly another 2 or 3 depending on how many more than 26 he goes for in the initial squad before whittling it down Pickford Ramsdale Henderson Trafford Walker TAA Trippier Branthwaite Stones Maguire Guehi Dier Colwill Quansah Shaw Rice Bellingham Wharton Gallagher Jones Mainoo Foden Saka Gordon Eze Palmer Maddison Kane Watkins No Grealish? Can't see that. There are only so many slots in those kind of roles though, so wouldn't be massively shocked if both he and Rashford missed out, even on the 32/33 before he whittles it down further to the 26. I think I would have taken one of those 2 ahead of Maddison
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May 21, 2024 11:05:30 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 21, 2024 11:05:30 GMT
No Grealish? Can't see that. There are only so many slots in those kind of roles though, so wouldn't be massively shocked if both he and Rashford missed out, even on the 32/33 before he whittles it down further to the 26. I think I would have taken one of those 2 ahead of Maddison Totally forgot about Rashford, had a shocking season tbf.. looks like Gareth might be finally prepared to make some big calls.
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