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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 14, 2022 9:59:31 GMT
What a ridiculous statement. It's like taking someone's view from the Covid thread, no matter how factually incorrect or biased, but validating their view because "they live there". Maybe you shouldn't be allowed a view on the Russia/Ukraine situation because you don't live there? I'd also add that you could equally find a NZ resident with a completely different view to"upthefud". How anyone can think Ardern's policy is rational, proportionate or successful is beyond me. Her obscene, covid zero approach has been found out for what it is. Watching Trudeau and Arden's plight is great to watch ☺️ What was factually inaccurate or biased about upthefud's post? I've not said that? It's his opinion and only his opinion. If someone comes on here and says "I think all in all, Boris has done a decent job after a tough start, things have ended really well and the majority of the country agree"... For every person who says that, you've got those who argue "our covid strategy was a disaster, loads of people died, he lied, vaccine passports should be reintroduced, bring back mandatory masks etc". There is a significant and increasing number of New Zealanders who think Ardern has lost the plot and feel she got it badly wrong. You don't have to live in New Zealand to know that.
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Post by upthefud on Feb 14, 2022 10:16:54 GMT
What was factually inaccurate or biased about upthefud's post? I've not said that? It's his opinion and only his opinion. If someone comes on here and says "I think all in all, Boris has done a decent job after a tough start, things have ended really well and the majority of the country agree"... For every person who says that, you've got those who argue "our covid strategy was a disaster, loads of people died, he lied, vaccine passports should be reintroduced, bring back mandatory masks etc". There is a significant and increasing number of New Zealanders who think Ardern has lost the plot and feel she got it badly wrong. You don't have to live in New Zealand to know that. Happy to discuss mate. From the start it’s been reported differently here - the media fed the tear factor and kiwis jumped at lockdowns and loved beating the virus. That worked when we were covid zero - please note covid wasn’t a thing here until August last year. Now we get 800 odd cases a day and people are terrified. As someone who reads the UK media, I, like you think we should get the fuck on with it. Jacinda still has a 57% positive poll rating, miles ahead of national. The protestors are facing a trench foot out break and pink eye on what’s been a 6 day siege of parliament. They aren’t the types of folk you want to be associated with, lots of gangs etc. She’s lost popularity over the over the top restrictions but overall NZ still buys into it. Edit: we’re also 94% double vaxxed. Whether you like it or not kiwis have bought into Jacinda’s policies
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 14, 2022 10:28:35 GMT
I've not said that? It's his opinion and only his opinion. If someone comes on here and says "I think all in all, Boris has done a decent job after a tough start, things have ended really well and the majority of the country agree"... For every person who says that, you've got those who argue "our covid strategy was a disaster, loads of people died, he lied, vaccine passports should be reintroduced, bring back mandatory masks etc". There is a significant and increasing number of New Zealanders who think Ardern has lost the plot and feel she got it badly wrong. You don't have to live in New Zealand to know that. Happy to discuss mate. From the start it’s been reported differently here - the media fed the tear factor and kiwis jumped at lockdowns and loved beating the virus. That worked when we were covid zero - please note covid wasn’t a thing here until August last year. Now we get 800 odd cases a day and people are terrified. As someone who reads the UK media, I, like you think we should get the fuck on with it. Jacinda still has a 57% positive poll rating, miles ahead of national. The protestors are facing a trench foot out break and pink eye on what’s been a 6 day siege of parliament. They aren’t the types of folk you want to be associated with, lots of gangs etc. She’s lost popularity over the over the top restrictions but overall NZ still buys into it. Fair enough. She's not helping herself with this weird, creepy, authoritarian language which has definitely contributed to the idea she's created a "Hermit Kingdom". Given the lack of natural immunity in NZ and her refusal to acknowledge natural immunity, I fear you guys have a long long way to go. Your case numbers are likely to go one way from here and it will be interesting to see if she holds her nerve. Appreciate those outside parliament might involve certain "types" but the backlash is only going to get stronger and I'm sure there are many ordinary folk who are going to get involved in the protesting too. You'll hear a lot more lies and propaganda coming from her in the coming months (as if you haven't heard enough) and she, along with Trudeau, are going to continue to try and justify their authoritarian position to New Zealanders (and Canadians) with the whole "protestors are far right Trump supporters", which I believe she's already started. It's only going one way for her and I have zero sympathy. Her comments at times during this pandemic have been so astoundingly tone deaf and frankly disgusting. But then again, the majority of New Zealanders were cheering on her election victory not so long ago so maybe the nanny state model works for them.
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Post by upthefud on Feb 14, 2022 10:37:45 GMT
Happy to discuss mate. From the start it’s been reported differently here - the media fed the tear factor and kiwis jumped at lockdowns and loved beating the virus. That worked when we were covid zero - please note covid wasn’t a thing here until August last year. Now we get 800 odd cases a day and people are terrified. As someone who reads the UK media, I, like you think we should get the fuck on with it. Jacinda still has a 57% positive poll rating, miles ahead of national. The protestors are facing a trench foot out break and pink eye on what’s been a 6 day siege of parliament. They aren’t the types of folk you want to be associated with, lots of gangs etc. She’s lost popularity over the over the top restrictions but overall NZ still buys into it. Fair enough. She's not helping herself with this weird, creepy, authoritarian language which has definitely contributed to the idea she's created a "Hermit Kingdom". Given the lack of natural immunity in NZ and her refusal to acknowledge natural immunity, I fear you guys have a long long way to go. Your case numbers are likely to go one way from here and it will be interesting to see if she holds her nerve. Appreciate those outside parliament might involve certain "types" but the backlash is only going to get stronger and I'm sure there are many ordinary folk who are going to get involved in the protesting too. You'll hear a lot more lies and propaganda coming from her in the coming months (as if you haven't heard enough) and she, along with Trudeau, are going to continue to try and justify their authoritarian position to New Zealanders (and Canadians) with the whole "protestors are far right Trump supporters", which I believe she's already started. It's only going one way for her and I have zero sympathy. Her comments at times during this pandemic have been so astoundingly tone deaf and frankly disgusting. But then again, the majority of New Zealanders were cheering on her election victory not so long ago so maybe the nanny state model works for them. Tbf the death rate here is incredibly low, so we lack herd immunity but the cost of that is one we’d all take. We were very lucky to have one of the worlds largest natural moats and we closed borders early. Too long in my opinion but the policy was right at the start, unlike the UKs haphazard approach. Another thing I will say for Jacinda is whilst Boris was breaking his own rules with lockdown parties she and her govt took a self imposed paycut, it may be tokenism but it is nice thinking you have a PM who does as she says. Due to the covid laws I’ve been away from Stoke for over 3 years now, I’m very excited to come home this July, I don’t think politically she can afford to delay the borders further. I won’t deny that it’s impossible to find kiwis with different opinions to me, but as someone who’s pro-Brexit and ex-army I’m reasonably centre right, but Jacinda’s response has shit all over Boris’
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 14, 2022 11:17:08 GMT
Trudeau and Macron are amongst the biggest cunts in the world Joint 1st no doubt about it.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 14, 2022 17:11:23 GMT
I can see where some of these people are coming from, but the problem I have is that by protesting for "freedom" they deny freedom to others. In so doing they lose sympathy for their cause from people who are seriously inconvenienced.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 14, 2022 17:15:27 GMT
I can see where some of these people are coming from, but the problem I have is that by protesting for "freedom" they deny freedom to others. In so doing they lose sympathy for their cause from people who are seriously inconvenienced. To be fair I'd argue many of the "others" inconvenienced me for 2 years by complying with obscene restrictions based on fake propaganda. I have no respect or time for anyone who supported prolonged covid measures or covid mandates. Make no mistake about it, had it not been for mass compliance, we'd have never got into this mess. I take your point though and appreciate it comes from a good place.
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Post by upthefud on Feb 14, 2022 19:08:06 GMT
You might disagree with Jacinda’s and Trudeau’s policies but if you honestly think that Jacinda is a bigger cunt than Boris then I’ll struggle to take you seriously
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Post by sorethumbs on Feb 15, 2022 0:15:50 GMT
Trudeau wants to freeze the bank accounts of protesters under terrorism laws. What is it about liberals that makes them so authoritarian?
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Post by klingon on Feb 15, 2022 0:23:14 GMT
Trudeau wants to freeze the bank accounts of protesters under terrorism laws. What is it about liberals that makes them so authoritarian? People in other countries block roads as a form of protest = good, People in our country do the same = string ‘em up. The only difference is…….well fucking tell me!
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Post by franklin on Feb 15, 2022 8:41:09 GMT
Trudeau wants to freeze the bank accounts of protesters under terrorism laws. What is it about liberals that makes them so authoritarian? I really can't believe what he's doing its completely outrageous to "starve" people into submission. He has lost the plot in his press conference he was desperately trying to justify his actions which are unjustifiable in a free country or indeed in any country, he should be condemned world wide.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 15, 2022 8:46:55 GMT
Trudeau wants to freeze the bank accounts of protesters under terrorism laws. What is it about liberals that makes them so authoritarian? People in other countries block roads as a form of protest = good, People in our country do the same = string ‘em up. The only difference is…….well fucking tell me! “I support the principle of protesting for a cause, but don’t interrupt my trip to the shops FFS”
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 15, 2022 11:14:44 GMT
People in other countries block roads as a form of protest = good, People in our country do the same = string ‘em up. The only difference is…….well fucking tell me! “I support the principle of protesting for a cause, but don’t interrupt my trip to the shops FFS” Well isn’t that exactly what JT is doing, supported the (sometimes violent) farmers protesting in India but when it discommodes him…
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Post by salopstick on Feb 15, 2022 11:52:38 GMT
That cunt is trying every trick in the book to break them
It makes drakeford and sturgeon look liberal
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 15, 2022 11:58:45 GMT
“I support the principle of protesting for a cause, but don’t interrupt my trip to the shops FFS” Well isn’t that exactly what JT is doing, supported the (sometimes violent) farmers protesting in India but when it discommodes him… This article is worth a read… Why Justin Trudeau Is Supporting Protesting Farmers in India. And it’s not edifying! Self righteous, hypocritical liberal trips over his own feet, sort of sums up Trudeau’s position at the moment. Mind you, he’s not the only leader floundering just now.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 15, 2022 13:39:56 GMT
Well isn’t that exactly what JT is doing, supported the (sometimes violent) farmers protesting in India but when it discommodes him… This article is worth a read… Why Justin Trudeau Is Supporting Protesting Farmers in India. And it’s not edifying! Self righteous, hypocritical liberal trips over his own feet, sort of sums up Trudeau’s position at the moment. Mind you, he’s not the only leader floundering just now. I will never forget the video of Trudeau drooling at the chops talking about covid being a great opportunity for govts around the world to begin a great reset. All the usual suspects were sliming out from under their rocks to say the same thing. Schwab, Ahern, Prince Charles, Biden. And then it morphed into build back better as the next phrase they are all saying in unison. I ain't no conspiracy kind of guy about new world orders or cabals of shadowy figures but there is definitely a strange kind of excitement and desire they have in common for keeping the plebs in line and behaving exactly as they want them to behave, no questions asked. Omicron proved it for me. They knew from S.Africa it was much less harmful yet they couldn't resist trying to repeat all the mistakes of the last 2 years. Something is most definitley up thats for sure. And what a prick Trudeau looks in that picture. I'd fucking love to give him a right good kicking the twat. Might do a Jake Paul and offer him a pub car park pay per view. UFC could have it on the undercard And leave the kids the fuck alone. Absolutely no justification for it whatsoever.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 15, 2022 13:43:20 GMT
Trudeau wants to freeze the bank accounts of protesters under terrorism laws. What is it about liberals that makes them so authoritarian? People in other countries block roads as a form of protest = good, People in our country do the same = string ‘em up. The only difference is…….well fucking tell me! Hey by gum, stumped if I know mate
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 15, 2022 14:57:48 GMT
I will never forget the video of Trudeau drooling at the chops talking about covid being a great opportunity for govts around the world to begin a great reset. All the usual suspects were sliming out from under their rocks to say the same thing. Schwab, Ahern, Prince Charles, Biden. And then it morphed into build back better as the next phrase they are all saying in unison. I ain't no conspiracy kind of guy about new world orders or cabals of shadowy figures but there is definitely a strange kind of excitement and desire they have in common for keeping the plebs in line and behaving exactly as they want them to behave, no questions asked. Omicron proved it for me. They knew from S.Africa it was much less harmful yet they couldn't resist trying to repeat all the mistakes of the last 2 years. Something is most definitley up thats for sure. And what a prick Trudeau looks in that picture. I'd fucking love to give him a right good kicking the twat. Might do a Jake Paul and offer him a pub car park pay per view. UFC could have it on the undercard And leave the kids the fuck alone. Absolutely no justification for it whatsoever.Absolutely mate. Bang on.
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Post by hoffgreen on Feb 16, 2022 15:30:32 GMT
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 16, 2022 16:50:51 GMT
Trudeau wants to freeze the bank accounts of protesters under terrorism laws. What is it about liberals that makes them so authoritarian? Trudeau is showing his true colours right now and I'll be amazed if he get's the Emergency Act voted through by the two houses. That small fringe minority as he called them have been a catalyst across the country for people to finally wake up and he knows he's losing it even with the support of his paid for media. Truckers were out there during the worst of it, when we had no idea what this thing was, to deliver supplies and basically keep us alive. In and out of the US when the US was collapsing under this thing supposedly. Now he says they have to be vaccinated to cross the border to do their jobs?? If they pull out of Ottawa and the border crossings I hope the next step is a general strike by them. Long may the downward spiral continue for the entitled cunt.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 16, 2022 16:58:32 GMT
Trudeau wants to freeze the bank accounts of protesters under terrorism laws. What is it about liberals that makes them so authoritarian? Trudeau is showing his true colours right now and I'll be amazed if he get's the Emergency Act voted through by the two houses. That small fringe minority as he called them have been a catalyst across the country for people to finally wake up and he knows he's losing it even with the support of his paid for media. Truckers were out there during the worst of it, when we had no idea what this thing was, to deliver supplies and basically keep us alive. In and out of the US when the US was collapsing under this thing supposedly. Now he says they have to be vaccinated to cross the border to do their jobs?? If they pull out of Ottawa and the border crossings I hope the next step is a general strike by them. Long may the downward spiral continue for the entitled cunt. Are these people actually truckers? I thought one of the unions (or at least an organisation that represented truckers) had come out and said the vast majority of the people protesting are not truckers.
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Post by hoffgreen on Feb 16, 2022 17:05:44 GMT
Trudeau is showing his true colours right now and I'll be amazed if he get's the Emergency Act voted through by the two houses. That small fringe minority as he called them have been a catalyst across the country for people to finally wake up and he knows he's losing it even with the support of his paid for media. Truckers were out there during the worst of it, when we had no idea what this thing was, to deliver supplies and basically keep us alive. In and out of the US when the US was collapsing under this thing supposedly. Now he says they have to be vaccinated to cross the border to do their jobs?? If they pull out of Ottawa and the border crossings I hope the next step is a general strike by them. Long may the downward spiral continue for the entitled cunt. Are these people actually truckers? I thought one of the unions (or at least an organisation that represented truckers) had come out and said the vast majority of the people protesting are not truckers. Of course they're not truckers. They're terrorists, insurectionists, racists, homophobes and any other ism or ist you can think of according to the MSM and lockstep governments worldwide. Didn't you get the memo?
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Post by thevoid on Feb 16, 2022 17:12:34 GMT
I will never forget the video of Trudeau drooling at the chops talking about covid being a great opportunity for govts around the world to begin a great reset. All the usual suspects were sliming out from under their rocks to say the same thing. Schwab, Ahern, Prince Charles, Biden. And then it morphed into build back better as the next phrase they are all saying in unison. I ain't no conspiracy kind of guy about new world orders or cabals of shadowy figures but there is definitely a strange kind of excitement and desire they have in common for keeping the plebs in line and behaving exactly as they want them to behave, no questions asked. Omicron proved it for me. They knew from S.Africa it was much less harmful yet they couldn't resist trying to repeat all the mistakes of the last 2 years. Something is most definitley up thats for sure. And what a prick Trudeau looks in that picture. I'd fucking love to give him a right good kicking the twat. Might do a Jake Paul and offer him a pub car park pay per view. UFC could have it on the undercard And leave the kids the fuck alone. Absolutely no justification for it whatsoever.Nice bit of cultural appropriation from JT there
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 16, 2022 17:25:38 GMT
Trudeau is showing his true colours right now and I'll be amazed if he get's the Emergency Act voted through by the two houses. That small fringe minority as he called them have been a catalyst across the country for people to finally wake up and he knows he's losing it even with the support of his paid for media. Truckers were out there during the worst of it, when we had no idea what this thing was, to deliver supplies and basically keep us alive. In and out of the US when the US was collapsing under this thing supposedly. Now he says they have to be vaccinated to cross the border to do their jobs?? If they pull out of Ottawa and the border crossings I hope the next step is a general strike by them. Long may the downward spiral continue for the entitled cunt. Are these people actually truckers? I thought one of the unions (or at least an organisation that represented truckers) had come out and said the vast majority of the people protesting are not truckers. So who drove all the 100’s trucks there, bankers?
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 16, 2022 18:28:29 GMT
Trudeau is showing his true colours right now and I'll be amazed if he get's the Emergency Act voted through by the two houses. That small fringe minority as he called them have been a catalyst across the country for people to finally wake up and he knows he's losing it even with the support of his paid for media. Truckers were out there during the worst of it, when we had no idea what this thing was, to deliver supplies and basically keep us alive. In and out of the US when the US was collapsing under this thing supposedly. Now he says they have to be vaccinated to cross the border to do their jobs?? If they pull out of Ottawa and the border crossings I hope the next step is a general strike by them. Long may the downward spiral continue for the entitled cunt. Are these people actually truckers? I thought one of the unions (or at least an organisation that represented truckers) had come out and said the vast majority of the people protesting are not truckers. The Trucker Union have disassociated themselves with all the protests, they have said that 95% are double vaccinated and this is a minority. What they didn't expect was the support from the vaccinated truckers for the mandates to be lifted. A lot of the people in Ottawa at weekends are just regular Joe's who support the truckers, taking them food and fuel, but during the week its mainly truckers I think as they can sleep in their cabs. Its been cold in Ottawa during these protests. If they had the weather we had here in Alberta for the last two weeks I'm sure the crowds would have been larger. Canadian Government puppets. Attachment Deleted
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 16, 2022 21:09:07 GMT
Are these people actually truckers? I thought one of the unions (or at least an organisation that represented truckers) had come out and said the vast majority of the people protesting are not truckers. The Trucker Union have disassociated themselves with all the protests, they have said that 95% are double vaccinated and this is a minority. What they didn't expect was the support from the vaccinated truckers for the mandates to be lifted. A lot of the people in Ottawa at weekends are just regular Joe's who support the truckers, taking them food and fuel, but during the week its mainly truckers I think as they can sleep in their cabs. Its been cold in Ottawa during these protests. If they had the weather we had here in Alberta for the last two weeks I'm sure the crowds would have been larger. Canadian Government puppets. View AttachmentStay safe brother, you are living under a ghastly dictator. Trudeau is a disgusting, authoritarian prick, let's just hope he gets dealt with severely in the not too distant future.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 17, 2022 0:28:06 GMT
The Trucker Union have disassociated themselves with all the protests, they have said that 95% are double vaccinated and this is a minority. What they didn't expect was the support from the vaccinated truckers for the mandates to be lifted. A lot of the people in Ottawa at weekends are just regular Joe's who support the truckers, taking them food and fuel, but during the week its mainly truckers I think as they can sleep in their cabs. Its been cold in Ottawa during these protests. If they had the weather we had here in Alberta for the last two weeks I'm sure the crowds would have been larger. Canadian Government puppets. View AttachmentStay safe brother, you are living under a ghastly dictator. Trudeau is a disgusting, authoritarian prick, let's just hope he gets dealt with severely in the not too distant future. I'm heading overseas soon with work and thankfully I won't be having to put up with him any longer. I feel sorry for those I leave behind.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 17, 2022 17:51:58 GMT
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Post by hoffgreen on Feb 17, 2022 20:01:23 GMT
Rainbow Sock Boy could have come out of this looking ok if he'd just addressed the concerns of this protest at the beginning in a conciliatory manner. But no, he's gone full on Commie and doubled down at every opportunity, calling vast swathes of Canadians every name he can think of with the help of a paid for Canadian MSM. The media in Canada deserve to be held accountable for the vile smears and insulting reporting they've done over the last few weeks on this protest. The majority of which are just normal working class people who want to return to their jobs and businesses without the government telling them when and how they can earn a living and put food on the table for their families and pay their bills.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Feb 18, 2022 19:49:34 GMT
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