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Post by klingon on Feb 11, 2022 12:19:07 GMT
Full list from the Grauniad and reader suggestions is here. The Clash at the Viccy Hall '77 might not have "changed music", but it changed mine. Can't decide if I wished I'd seen this one from the list.............perhaps not near the front. " L7
Reading festival, 30 August 1992
Bands being pelted by objects is common at Reading – less so is bands fighting back, as L7 did in spectacular fashion. Donita Sparks hoicked out her tampon and hurled it at the crowd, proving that long-patronised “women in rock” weren’t going to be underestimated any more." |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Feb 12, 2022 12:50:02 GMT
I love the footage I've seen (YouTube I think) of that Sister Rosetta Tharpe gig.
The gig that sticks in my mind most is British Sea Power at Staffs Uni in 2003. They sounded incredible and were absolutely bonkers, with free British Sea Power branded Kendal Mintcake to 'provide the mind with vital energy' to help remind us of 'crucial impending event' (a single release), dangerous amp and beam-climbing, fake plastic birds, foliage, members staring with terror-stricken eyes straight to the back of the venue, and a marching drummer through the crowd.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 12, 2022 13:12:14 GMT
As a big music lover there are numerous omissions and gigs on there what didn't do anything long term. Decent read of someone else opinions though.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 12, 2022 13:24:22 GMT
Strange choice of Sex Pistols gig, since almost everyone who was anyone in Manchester cites their presence at the Lesser Free Trade Hall Pistols gig as the point at which they decided to start a band.
Also nice to see Kraftwerk get a mention since their music has been instrumental on almost every musical genre since about 74.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 12, 2022 14:00:30 GMT
Strange choice of Sex Pistols gig, since almost everyone who was anyone in Manchester cites their presence at the Lesser Free Trade Hall Pistols gig as the point at which they decided to start a band. Also nice to see Kraftwerk get a mention since their music has been instrumental on almost every musical genre since about 74. Totally agree about the Pistols and I would go even further back with Kraftwerk as their gigs in the the late 60s v early 70s were ground braking along with a few other "Krautrock" groups. |
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 12, 2022 19:23:53 GMT
Full list from the Grauniad and reader suggestions is here. The Clash at the Viccy Hall '77 might not have "changed music", but it changed mine. Can't decide if I wished I'd seen this one from the list.............perhaps not near the front. " L7
Reading festival, 30 August 1992
Bands being pelted by objects is common at Reading – less so is bands fighting back, as L7 did in spectacular fashion. Donita Sparks hoicked out her tampon and hurled it at the crowd, proving that long-patronised “women in rock” weren’t going to be underestimated any more." I saw the Clash a little later at the Viccy Hall quickly followed by the Jam. Clash set list 77 Stoke "London's Burning" "Complete Control" 1977 "Jail Guitar Doors" "Clash City Rockers" "Capital Radio" "Hate & War" "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" "Protex Blue" "I'm So Bored With the U.S.A." Cheat "Police and Thieves" "Career Opportunities" "Janie Jones" Garageland "What's My Name" "White Riot" "London's Burning" 1977 Great set. |
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Post by questionable on Feb 12, 2022 20:00:51 GMT
Surprised The Prodigy in Red Square aren’t in there, 200,000 rammed in, amazing, amazing scenes.
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Post by questionable on Feb 12, 2022 20:01:54 GMT
Full list from the Grauniad and reader suggestions is here. The Clash at the Viccy Hall '77 might not have "changed music", but it changed mine. Can't decide if I wished I'd seen this one from the list.............perhaps not near the front. " L7
Reading festival, 30 August 1992
Bands being pelted by objects is common at Reading – less so is bands fighting back, as L7 did in spectacular fashion. Donita Sparks hoicked out her tampon and hurled it at the crowd, proving that long-patronised “women in rock” weren’t going to be underestimated any more." I saw the Clash a little later at the Viccy Hall quickly followed by the Jam. Clash set list 77 Stoke "London's Burning" "Complete Control" 1977 "Jail Guitar Doors" "Clash City Rockers" "Capital Radio" "Hate & War" "(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais" "Protex Blue" "I'm So Bored With the U.S.A." Cheat "Police and Thieves" "Career Opportunities" "Janie Jones" Garageland "What's My Name" "White Riot" "London's Burning" 1977 Great set. That’s a great set of songs, jammy ...... |
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Post by klingon on Feb 12, 2022 21:01:30 GMT
Surprised The Prodigy in Red Square aren’t in there, 200,000 rammed in, amazing, amazing scenes. Were you there? Didn’t know about this…… |
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Post by pretzel on Feb 12, 2022 21:24:37 GMT
Not so much a gig but a tour that took in Hanley Victoria Hall on November 18th 1973 when Mott the Hoople brought with them a previously little known support band called Queen.
I was there, as Max Boyce would say.
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Post by klingon on Feb 12, 2022 21:32:36 GMT
Not so much a gig but a tour that took in Hanley Victoria Hall on November 18th 1973 when Mott the Hoople brought with them a previously little known support band called Queen. I was there, as Max Boyce would say. Call me “unfashionable”, but Queen were superb up until, and including, “Sheer Heart Attack”. Would have loved to have seen Hoople. Big Bowie/Mick Ronson influence obvs. |
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2022 23:44:13 GMT
In true Guardian fashion, it's a nice comfortable list for the bourgeoisie. Sure, they've made sure that all the genres are there but they also ensured that any edginess is left firmly at the door. Shame, it could have been an interesting list.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 13, 2022 6:44:40 GMT
Not so much a gig but a tour that took in Hanley Victoria Hall on November 18th 1973 when Mott the Hoople brought with them a previously little known support band called Queen. I was there, as Max Boyce would say. Call me “unfashionable”, but Queen were superb up until, and including, “Sheer Heart Attack”. Would have loved to have seen Hoople. Big Bowie/Mick Ronson influence obvs. On a similar theme I would have liked to have seen early Roxy music with Brian Eno or to use his real name "Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno"  . After he left they were shit. |
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Post by questionable on Feb 13, 2022 8:16:25 GMT
Surprised The Prodigy in Red Square aren’t in there, 200,000 rammed in, amazing, amazing scenes. Were you there? Didn’t know about this…… No mate I wasn’t there but would have loved to have been there, I watched it on MTV and without doubt it it was electric, it’s on YouTube have s gander 👍👍 |
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 13, 2022 8:20:47 GMT
In true Guardian fashion, it's a nice comfortable list for the bourgeoisie. Sure, they've made sure that all the genres are there but they also ensured that any edginess is left firmly at the door. Shame, it could have been an interesting list. Agreed. But what’s missing. Other than The Macc Lads “Fucking Hell It’s Cold” winter tour of 1987 (obviously). |
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Post by metalhead on Feb 13, 2022 8:55:37 GMT
In true Guardian fashion, it's a nice comfortable list for the bourgeoisie. Sure, they've made sure that all the genres are there but they also ensured that any edginess is left firmly at the door. Shame, it could have been an interesting list. Agreed. But what’s missing. Other than The Macc Lads “Fucking Hell It’s Cold” winter tour of 1987 (obviously). Well, you've got the Oasis Knebworth gig? 500,000 odd people. You've got the Heavy Metal Holocaust in 1981 which was held at none other than Vale Park. They used the loudest PA (by some distance) ever built and Motorhead were audible up to 10 miles away. To quote the Sentinel article on it: “At Port Vale we built the entire stage out of PA (public address system) – I mean everything; it was all speakers, to the tune of 117,000 watts. “At the soundcheck a guy rang up from four miles away to complain that he couldn't hear his TV." Yet they've included an inoffensive, if rather unspectacular Aretha Franklin gig instead. Daft Punk? Really? Taylor Swift... Ok. Like I said, a perfect fit for the Guardian readership. |
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 13, 2022 9:16:27 GMT
Agreed. But what’s missing. Other than The Macc Lads “Fucking Hell It’s Cold” winter tour of 1987 (obviously). Well, you've got the Oasis Knebworth gig? 500,000 odd people. You've got the Heavy Metal Holocaust in 1981 which was held at none other than Vale Park. They used the loudest PA (by some distance) ever built and Motorhead were audible up to 10 miles away. To quote the Sentinel article on it: “At Port Vale we built the entire stage out of PA (public address system) – I mean everything; it was all speakers, to the tune of 117,000 watts. “At the soundcheck a guy rang up from four miles away to complain that he couldn't hear his TV." Yet they've included an inoffensive, if rather unspectacular Aretha Franklin gig instead. Daft Punk? Really? Taylor Swift... Ok. Like I said, a perfect fit for the Guardian readership. Some of the choices of gigs is weird. Aretha Franklin is one. One of her gigs from the sixties would surely be a better choice. Likewise Kraftwerk in the 70s not 80s. The article is rather light on heavy metal I agree, despite me not being much of a fan. Maybe they decided decibel level wasn’t a principle criteria for inclusion. |
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Post by marwood on Feb 13, 2022 10:50:10 GMT
Haven’t read it but please tell me David Hasslehof is there in Berlin in 1989 atop the wall singing “Looking for Freedom”
Helped to bring about fall of communism in the West
Music that changed history
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Post by metalhead on Feb 13, 2022 12:03:44 GMT
Well, you've got the Oasis Knebworth gig? 500,000 odd people. You've got the Heavy Metal Holocaust in 1981 which was held at none other than Vale Park. They used the loudest PA (by some distance) ever built and Motorhead were audible up to 10 miles away. To quote the Sentinel article on it: “At Port Vale we built the entire stage out of PA (public address system) – I mean everything; it was all speakers, to the tune of 117,000 watts. “At the soundcheck a guy rang up from four miles away to complain that he couldn't hear his TV." Yet they've included an inoffensive, if rather unspectacular Aretha Franklin gig instead. Daft Punk? Really? Taylor Swift... Ok. Like I said, a perfect fit for the Guardian readership. Some of the choices of gigs is weird. Aretha Franklin is one. One of her gigs from the sixties would surely be a better choice. Likewise Kraftwerk in the 70s not 80s. The article is rather light on heavy metal I agree, despite me not being much of a fan. Maybe they decided decibel level wasn’t a principle criteria for inclusion. I wouldn't class Oasis as heavy, but the article is 'gigs that changed music' and they left Knebworth 1996 out? 500,000 people and a demand which could have sold it another 6 times over. Arguably the last great music festival before the Internet Generation and camera phones etc. Suppose a Daft Punk gig with sampling and not an instrument in sight is just as biblical... They use Casio keyboards from the 80s so they're 'retro' and cool apparently lol. At least that's what an unemployed hipster in a beanie hat told me. The HMH is an example of just one of the massive hard rock gigs omitted. You've got several Monsters Of Rock and Download festivals, featuring bands like ACDC and Maiden in their pomp. You've also got the US Festival 1983 which is probably the biggest American hard rock festival ever, featuring Van Halen as the headline act. It's a perfect article for the typical middle class Guardian reader. There's no point straying too far from the narrative, the little Englander might get scared. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 13, 2022 12:51:31 GMT
I would have the Quarrymen first gig with Lennon and McCartney making the list. How about early Cliff Richard, Shadows and Johnny Kidd and the pirates, Lonnie Donegan? after all this first generation British skiffle-Rock n Roll inspired some of the greatest bands ever. Maybe Led Zeppelin touring as the New Yardbirds in their early days? Music fans started to watch those very early Led Zep gigs baffled and came out of the venue converted. In all truthfulness there’s compelling arguments for many artists.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 13, 2022 14:12:35 GMT
I would have the Quarrymen first gig with Lennon and McCartney making the list. How about early Cliff Richard, Shadows and Johnny Kidd and the pirates, Lonnie Donegan? after all this first generation British skiffle-Rock n Roll inspired some of the greatest bands ever. Maybe Led Zeppelin touring as the New Yardbirds in their early days? Music fans started to watch those very early Led Zep gigs baffled and came out of the venue converted. In all truthfulness there’s compelling arguments for many artists. I love the Yardbirds and Led Zep. There’s a great bit in the cult film “Blow Up” where you’ve got Page and Beck on duel guitars it’s a great watch. Keith Relf was a great vocalist but Led Zep just wouldn’t be the same without Robert Plant as this clip shows |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 13, 2022 14:20:10 GMT
I would have the Quarrymen first gig with Lennon and McCartney making the list. How about early Cliff Richard, Shadows and Johnny Kidd and the pirates, Lonnie Donegan? after all this first generation British skiffle-Rock n Roll inspired some of the greatest bands ever. Maybe Led Zeppelin touring as the New Yardbirds in their early days? Music fans started to watch those very early Led Zep gigs baffled and came out of the venue converted. In all truthfulness there’s compelling arguments for many artists. I love the Yardbirds and Led Zep. There’s a great bit in the cult film “Blow Up” where you’ve got Page and Beck on duel guitars it’s a great watch. Keith Relf was a great vocalist but Led Zep just wouldn’t be the same without Robert Plant as this clip shows That clip in ‘Blow Up’ is the only film of them ‘playing’ together (or so I’m ‘led’ to believe 😁) Keith Relph would have been too weak as a LZ vocalist, Robert Plant was one of the first hard rock front men and you needed the presence of a guy like that. |
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Post by toppercorner on Feb 13, 2022 14:53:15 GMT
I'd like to add to the list, the day Oasis played the Stoke Wheatsheaf.
It was the day their debut single, 'Supersonic' was released, and it was the Monday after their infamous appearance on the previous Friday night's edition of 'The Word'. After that, it went stratospheric for them.
I know they'd been in existence since '91, and had signed to Creation records in '93, but that pivotal weekend in April '94 was seismic.
I was there for that one.
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 13, 2022 15:17:43 GMT
I’m surprised the monsters of rock gig at Tuschino Airfield in Russia didn’t get a mention…. In terms of sheer size , it attracted 1.2 million !!!!!!!!
AC/DC headlined……
Also “rendezvous Houston” with Jean Michel Jarre…… this gig was off the scale with the buildings of downtown Houston the stage backdrop…..
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 13, 2022 15:35:43 GMT
I love the Yardbirds and Led Zep. There’s a great bit in the cult film “Blow Up” where you’ve got Page and Beck on duel guitars it’s a great watch. Keith Relf was a great vocalist but Led Zep just wouldn’t be the same without Robert Plant as this clip shows That clip in ‘Blow Up’ is the only film of them ‘playing’ together (or so I’m ‘led’ to believe 😁) Keith Relph would have been too weak as a LZ vocalist, Robert Plant was one of the first hard rock front men and you needed the presence of a guy like that. 100 percent Relf suited the Yardbirds and that period perfectly. Very sad that he was very young when he died tragically. When you think they had Clapton too that was an incredible list of guitarists they had at one point or another. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 13, 2022 15:37:54 GMT
That clip in ‘Blow Up’ is the only film of them ‘playing’ together (or so I’m ‘led’ to believe 😁) Keith Relph would have been too weak as a LZ vocalist, Robert Plant was one of the first hard rock front men and you needed the presence of a guy like that. 100 percent Relf suited the Yardbirds and that period perfectly. Very sad that he was very young when he died tragically. When you think they had Clapton too that was an incredible list of guitarists they had at one point or another. Astonishing guitar line up. Dare I say Beck was the best? |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 13, 2022 16:17:12 GMT
100 percent Relf suited the Yardbirds and that period perfectly. Very sad that he was very young when he died tragically. When you think they had Clapton too that was an incredible list of guitarists they had at one point or another. Astonishing guitar line up. Dare I say Beck was the best? You might be right though commercially the least successful. The Zep were a truely phenomenal group of musicians. If Bonham hadn’t died i’d love to see how far they’d have gone. Bonham was an amazing rock drummer boy did he hit them skins hard. When the Levee Breaks being a perfect example. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 13, 2022 16:38:11 GMT
Astonishing guitar line up. Dare I say Beck was the best? You might be right though commercially the least successful. The Zep were a truely phenomenal group of musicians. If Bonham hadn’t died i’d love to see how far they’d have gone. Bonham was an amazing rock drummer boy did he hit them skins hard. When the Levee Breaks being a perfect example. I actually think Zeppelin had peaked before his death. In through the out door wasn’t a great album, and I suspect Robert Plant had had enough, and Knebworth didn’t get the ticket sales anticipated. As you say a phenomenal group of musicians. |
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 13, 2022 16:45:24 GMT
Isle of White festival Pink Floyd-Maybe on list cannot be bothered to look again. Eminem, Manchester Evening News Arena, 2001 Elvis Comeback Special 1968 Patti Smith Group and Television at CBGBs 1975 Ive had enough now.  |
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. After he left they were shit.
