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Post by fraybentos on Apr 25, 2022 14:04:39 GMT
I would take a punt on him
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 25, 2022 14:19:56 GMT
If we are going to buy him, another loan with a reduced option at the end seems most appropriate. That’s certainly the crap we’ve been fed in the past anyways. I personally don’t think he’s good enough or the right type of player for us. We need a target man, especially with Fletcher worsening every day. His link up play is good. But currently looks as likely as Fletcher to score. Even when Fletch is on the bench.. Link up play is only part of what a target man needs to do. I don’t think I’ve seen him win very many aerial duels. For once, I’d just like to see Stoke buy someone who fit a role we needed, rather than sign someone and wonder why they don’t work. Maja and Surridge are both good, recent examples of the latter.
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Post by sd22 on Apr 25, 2022 14:26:48 GMT
I’ve seen more from him, than Surridge. Worth a punt at 3m.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 25, 2022 14:34:40 GMT
Nearly always a loan fee Lots of clubs wanted him so either way it's not free High earner? He would have been on buttons at Sunderland, won't be on big money at Bordeaux Can we get better for the money it would cost us? €3.5m with average Championship wages, if that's our striker budget then it won't be an exciting pool we will be fishing in Already said I think £3.5M will be one of the highest fees in the championship barring clubs with parachute money. In the new normal it's a big fee for a championship club. Middlesborough bought a player called Payero from Brazil for £6.1million last season for the highest fee outside Fulham. Weirdly though you have no idea how much undisclosed fees are and they just go down as £0 which can't be true? Some of the biggest signings last summer were undisclosed. When and how can clubs decide not to disclose the fee?
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 25, 2022 15:26:40 GMT
I’ve seen more from him, than Surridge. Worth a punt at 3m. Surridge has scored more goals for Nottm Forest than Maja has here. Maja has one goal in 15. Given that: he’s not very quick; not tricky; not as good as Brown in the air; isn’t exceptional in his link up play; isn’t really a grafter, and hasn’t been scoring, I’m confused as to what I’m supposed to like about him. £3 million would likely be the entirety of our transfer budget.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Apr 25, 2022 15:43:32 GMT
Maja doesn't do it for me either, but as it's his finishing which sets him apart, it's a shame he hasn't scored more in order to make a proper judgement.
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Post by sd22 on Apr 25, 2022 18:09:26 GMT
I’ve seen more from him, than Surridge. Worth a punt at 3m. Surridge has scored more goals for Nottm Forest than Maja has here. Maja has one goal in 15. Given that: he’s not very quick; not tricky; not as good as Brown in the air; isn’t exceptional in his link up play; isn’t really a grafter, and hasn’t been scoring, I’m confused as to what I’m supposed to like about him. £3 million would likely be the entirety of our transfer budget. Has a goal involvement of 1 in every 2.3 games or something similar. Not the best, but he’s working better with Brown now, and gelling with the team. Of course we’d love a 18 goal a season man, we wasted 3m on Surridge who failed to do that. Fair enough Surridge is doing well at Forest, but Maja is doing well in this current 352 set up. His stats are slightly skewed as we played dreadful since Jan really. Whereas Surridge struggled to do anything when we were a top 6 side.
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Post by pieofpeter on Apr 25, 2022 18:15:02 GMT
I'd sign him takes at least 6 months to settle into a club. Think he does need a partner up with him though to get the best out of him.
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 25, 2022 18:16:55 GMT
Surridge has scored more goals for Nottm Forest than Maja has here. Maja has one goal in 15. Given that: he’s not very quick; not tricky; not as good as Brown in the air; isn’t exceptional in his link up play; isn’t really a grafter, and hasn’t been scoring, I’m confused as to what I’m supposed to like about him. £3 million would likely be the entirety of our transfer budget. Has a goal involvement of 1 in every 2.3 games or something similar. Not the best, but he’s working better with Brown now, and gelling with the team. Of course we’d love a 18 goal a season man, we wasted 3m on Surridge who failed to do that. Fair enough Surridge is doing well at Forest, but Maja is doing well in this current 352 set up. His stats are slightly skewed as we played dreadful since Jan really. Whereas Surridge struggled to do anything when we were a top 6 side. In my opinion, they’ve both struggled to do much for Stoke. He’s a reason for us struggling as he’s been a part of the 11 that has continually failed to impress. He’s been injured and so it’s hard to fully judge. However, I don’t see us getting out of this league without a proper target man to take the pressure off. He isn’t that. In a 352, that leaves one other striker spot. I don’t think that Maja offers as much to the game as Brown, or has as much potential ability as Campbell, so it still leaves me with the question of, what is his actual worth to Stoke City? I just don’t see how he would fit into the team better than someone who can do the heavy lifting aerially.
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Post by nonameface on Apr 25, 2022 18:42:00 GMT
Has a goal involvement of 1 in every 2.3 games or something similar. Not the best, but he’s working better with Brown now, and gelling with the team. Of course we’d love a 18 goal a season man, we wasted 3m on Surridge who failed to do that. Fair enough Surridge is doing well at Forest, but Maja is doing well in this current 352 set up. His stats are slightly skewed as we played dreadful since Jan really. Whereas Surridge struggled to do anything when we were a top 6 side. In my opinion, they’ve both struggled to do much for Stoke. He’s a reason for us struggling as he’s been a part of the 11 that has continually failed to impress. He’s been injured and so it’s hard to fully judge. However, I don’t see us getting out of this league without a proper target man to take the pressure off. He isn’t that. In a 352, that leaves one other striker spot. I don’t think that Maja offers as much to the game as Brown, or has as much potential ability as Campbell, so it still leaves me with the question of, what is his actual worth to Stoke City? I just don’t see how he would fit into the team better than someone who can do the heavy lifting aerially. His performances when he first signed were poor, but he's getting fitter and his touch of the ball and control of the defenders looks better so can understand why people may think of taking a gamble. As we don't hit channels much or play it long the fact he's weak and slow isn't that much of a concern. What is though is his ability to get into goalscoring positions and take them, which is what he is meant to excel at, but it doesn't look like he does.
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Post by stokie1947 on Apr 25, 2022 18:49:32 GMT
is he the 20 goal season striker we need NO
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Post by march4 on Apr 25, 2022 19:51:54 GMT
3 million??
Is that pounds?
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Post by bolders on Apr 25, 2022 19:52:49 GMT
3 million?? Is that pounds? They want 3.5m Euros for him
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Post by march4 on Apr 25, 2022 19:57:38 GMT
3 million?? Is that pounds? They want 3.5m Euros for him Really. I take it the exchange rate is 10 Euros to the pound.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Apr 25, 2022 20:01:06 GMT
Looks like a good all round player to me. He is the right age and will only get better. Sign him up.
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Post by bolders on Apr 25, 2022 20:11:20 GMT
They want 3.5m Euros for him Really. I take it the exchange rate is 10 Euros to the pound. 3.5m euros is £2.942943m
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 25, 2022 20:11:47 GMT
They want 3.5m Euros for him Really. I take it the exchange rate is 10 Euros to the pound. I still think he’d be poor value at £350,000. Not a lead the line striker that we need. Get rid doesn’t do anything our current lot can’t. They all need a focal point, he isn’t it.
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Post by sd22 on Apr 25, 2022 20:19:22 GMT
Has a goal involvement of 1 in every 2.3 games or something similar. Not the best, but he’s working better with Brown now, and gelling with the team. Of course we’d love a 18 goal a season man, we wasted 3m on Surridge who failed to do that. Fair enough Surridge is doing well at Forest, but Maja is doing well in this current 352 set up. His stats are slightly skewed as we played dreadful since Jan really. Whereas Surridge struggled to do anything when we were a top 6 side. In my opinion, they’ve both struggled to do much for Stoke. He’s a reason for us struggling as he’s been a part of the 11 that has continually failed to impress. He’s been injured and so it’s hard to fully judge. However, I don’t see us getting out of this league without a proper target man to take the pressure off. He isn’t that. In a 352, that leaves one other striker spot. I don’t think that Maja offers as much to the game as Brown, or has as much potential ability as Campbell, so it still leaves me with the question of, what is his actual worth to Stoke City? I just don’t see how he would fit into the team better than someone who can do the heavy lifting aerially. Agree fully with that statement! It’s a shame Rondon has dropped off, but would still command a hefty fee. Someone in the mould of 2017-19 Rondon would be ideal. Would love Tezgel to get some game time in these last two games and preseason and be the answer to our prayers! But maybe that’s a season to early!
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 25, 2022 20:27:06 GMT
£3m on Maja in our current position would be financial suicide. Crazy.
I've seen very little from him to suggest he's worth anything like that fee, even if our financial predicament wasn't an issue.
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Post by BuckRogers on Apr 25, 2022 20:27:52 GMT
Doesn't do enough for me. We need alot better to get out of this league .
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Post by lordb on Apr 25, 2022 20:30:53 GMT
In my opinion, they’ve both struggled to do much for Stoke. He’s a reason for us struggling as he’s been a part of the 11 that has continually failed to impress. He’s been injured and so it’s hard to fully judge. However, I don’t see us getting out of this league without a proper target man to take the pressure off. He isn’t that. In a 352, that leaves one other striker spot. I don’t think that Maja offers as much to the game as Brown, or has as much potential ability as Campbell, so it still leaves me with the question of, what is his actual worth to Stoke City? I just don’t see how he would fit into the team better than someone who can do the heavy lifting aerially. Agree fully with that statement It’s a shame Rondon has dropped off, but would still command a hefty fee. Someone in the mould of 2017-19 Rondon would be ideal. Would love Tezgel to get some game time in these last two games and preseason and be the answer to our prayers But maybe that’s a season to early Rondon? We probably can't afford Maja, no chance of a Rondon
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Post by xchpotter on Apr 25, 2022 20:41:12 GMT
Half decent strikers with a reasonable goal rate are reduced to nothing with us, so I can’t see how spending £3m on someone starting at an even lower point would make much sense. Hope Stoke have learned lessons and stop wasting money. Maja just hasn’t done enough for me and there has to be better options out there.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2022 20:47:34 GMT
Really. I take it the exchange rate is 10 Euros to the pound. I still think he’d be poor value at £350,000. Not a lead the line striker that we need. Get rid doesn’t do anything our current lot can’t. They all need a focal point, he isn’t it. He absolutely does. No other striker we own links the play as he does.
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Post by themistocles on Apr 25, 2022 20:53:01 GMT
You can get much better value for money on the continent.
Look at Swansea and thier striker Piroe. Bought for £1m and slotted 20 goals in his first season.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 25, 2022 20:54:47 GMT
They want 3.5m Euros for him Really. I take it the exchange rate is 10 Euros to the pound. Enjoy your half days holiday in France…🤣
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 25, 2022 21:17:34 GMT
Looks like a good all round player to me. He is the right age and will only get better. Sign him up. What if he doesn't get better...... He just doesn't look a goal threat to me and we need someone that is.
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 25, 2022 21:37:51 GMT
Get him here permanently and watch him flourish.
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Post by canadastk on Apr 25, 2022 23:54:19 GMT
He isn't worth 3.5 million. I figure if we could sign him for 1 million that would be fair value. I will concede that he needs time to bed into the team and his fitness is improving but, I don't believe he is the best value for what we need from a striker. We can do better. Why do other teams get more from less while we always splash loads of cash and get little in return?
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 26, 2022 0:34:45 GMT
He could learn a lot about how to get involved in the game from Jacob Brown. I don't know if it's a fitness thing, but he was two yards off everything on Saturday.
I think I would look elsewhere next year.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Apr 26, 2022 3:43:22 GMT
Looks like a good all round player to me. He is the right age and will only get better. Sign him up. What if he doesn't get better...... He just doesn't look a goal threat to me and we need someone that is. It's a risk you take on any player. I just think there is more to come from him once settled in. Look at Surridge now, scoring goals. People slated him, it takes time to play and fit in here when you are a striker.
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