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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 7, 2022 16:43:27 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc
It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building.
Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else.
I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 7, 2022 22:10:42 GMT
Also loved going to Loomer Road to watch Stoke Potters and BriSCA. F1 Stock Cars back in the 70s and 80s
Vision, the will to want to invest and make the city a viable alternative to cities up the road has to be there…..
The location of Stoke - literally in the middle of an hours drive to large populations of people make it , logistically speaking a good starting point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 22:14:30 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building. Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else. I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day. Jez Moxey looked into the possibility of an ice hockey side. He played basketball as well for s few teams as was involved with both sports in the USA. The ice hockey side looked possible for a while . I used to go and watch Telford and Manchester but the league was starting to die a bit and never happened. I like the idea still |
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Post by Gods on Jan 7, 2022 22:57:27 GMT
Shame Staffordshire is not a first class cricket county.
Neighbouring Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Warwickshire and Worcestershire all are.
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Post by lordb on Jan 7, 2022 23:22:38 GMT
Where would the best place for an indoor sporting arena be?
How about that land near Tesco in Hanley?
Or near the Bet365 stadium?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 7, 2022 23:25:31 GMT
Where would the best place for an indoor sporting arena be? How about that land near Tesco in Hanley? Or near the Bet365 stadium? Bentilee |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 8, 2022 0:25:13 GMT
Where would the best place for an indoor sporting arena be? How about that land near Tesco in Hanley? Or near the Bet365 stadium? It could be either the City centre like it was mooted in the sentinel about an indoor arena, but it should be by the bet365 to create a sport quarter. It could share the car parks. Sadly as with every idea for improving our City it will be lost forever in a myriad of bickering. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 8, 2022 0:30:36 GMT
Where would the best place for an indoor sporting arena be? How about that land near Tesco in Hanley? Or near the Bet365 stadium? It could be either the City centre like it was mooted in the sentinel about an indoor arena, but it should be by the bet365 to create a sport quarter. It could share the car parks. Sadly as with every idea for improving our City it will be lost forever in a myriad of bickering. Where the gasometer was😏 |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 8, 2022 0:30:38 GMT
Also loved going to Loomer Road to watch Stoke Potters and BriSCA. F1 Stock Cars back in the 70s and 80s Vision, the will to want to invest and make the city a viable alternative to cities up the road has to be there….. The location of Stoke - literally in the middle of an hours drive to large populations of people make it , logistically speaking a good starting point. I miss the speedway. I was watching the Premier league final highlights, Peterborough vs Belle Vue. Some excellent racing on offer and big crowd too. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 8, 2022 0:30:58 GMT
It could be either the City centre like it was mooted in the sentinel about an indoor arena, but it should be by the bet365 to create a sport quarter. It could share the car parks. Sadly as with every idea for improving our City it will be lost forever in a myriad of bickering. Where the gasometer was😏 Best me too it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2022 7:37:20 GMT
The original proposed venue was near to the ground, was one of those parachute style simulators there eventually. Like my ice hockey and was really hoping would come off. The Telford Tigers folded I think. I did go to see the Manchester Storm at the MEN as was over 20k there .
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Post by westlandstokie on Jan 8, 2022 8:02:39 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building. Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else. I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day. Oddly me and my wife were having this conversation only a few days ago. We both agreed that an indoor arena with a capacity of about 8k would be a brilliant idea. For starters Nathan Heaney could have his fights there as opposed to the Kings Hall which only holds about 1200 ? Also the area could then try to attract some decent musical acts to the area. As to its location…somewhere near the Bet365 makes sense due the the parking facilities and ease of access. |
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Post by lordb on Jan 8, 2022 8:31:35 GMT
It could be either the City centre like it was mooted in the sentinel about an indoor arena, but it should be by the bet365 to create a sport quarter. It could share the car parks. Sadly as with every idea for improving our City it will be lost forever in a myriad of bickering. Where the gasometer was😏 Which one? Etruria or the one next to the Vic? |
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Post by lordb on Jan 8, 2022 8:32:41 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building. Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else. I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day. Oddly me and my wife were having this conversation only a few days ago. We both agreed that an indoor arena with a capacity of about 8k would be a brilliant idea. For starters Nathan Heaney could have his fights there as opposed to the Kings Hall which only holds about 1200 ? Also the area could then try to attract some decent musical acts to the area. As to its location…somewhere near the Bet365 makes sense due the the parking facilities and ease of access. Plus Stoke-On-Trent could become the home of darts again |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 8, 2022 8:45:12 GMT
Which one? Etruria or the one next to the Vic? Anchor road? |
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Post by somersetstokie on Jan 8, 2022 20:48:41 GMT
We could have Boules tournaments on the Bet 365 Car Park. In the Bois de Boulogne in Paris on a Sunday, players just seem to turn up and have a game wherever there's a piece of open flat ground.
European competition back at Stoke!
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 8, 2022 21:55:34 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building. Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else. I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day. Up the potters so gutted when it shut used to go every week 😥 |
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jan 8, 2022 22:18:59 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building. Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else. I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day. Up the potters so gutted when it shut used to go every week 😥 Why did it close? |
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jan 8, 2022 22:21:34 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building. Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else. I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day. I dont mind watching Ice Hockey. The problem is its the NHL i watch and the standard is different class. Saying that a sponsored ad break every 5 minutes does ruin it a bit. However thats a different matter. I suppose going to watch a game would be fun. Got a mate in gym who plays basketball problem again is. He said the standard of the BBL is know where near the NBA. Basically he was saying anyone half decent goes to play in the NBA. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 8, 2022 22:24:37 GMT
Up the potters so gutted when it shut used to go every week 😥 Why did it close. The owners sold the stadium for development which still hasn't happened so that was it, not many if any oval sports circuits are owned by the promoters of speedway/stock cars all owned by private landlords. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 8, 2022 22:44:02 GMT
The owners sold the stadium for development which still hasn't happened so that was it, not many if any oval sports circuits are owned by the promoters of speedway/stock cars all owned by private landlords. Im sure i heard they cant build on it due to old mining works. If thats the case it even more gutting that it closed down. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 8, 2022 22:53:25 GMT
The owners sold the stadium for development which still hasn't happened so that was it, not many if any oval sports circuits are owned by the promoters of speedway/stock cars all owned by private landlords. Im sure i heard they cant build on it due to old mining works. If thats the case it even more gutting that it closed down. There was rumours for years of a big mineshaft on the centre green but whether true i don't know, wouldn't stop them building though it is surrounded by distribution warehouses and it wouldn't stop them when all said and done the bet 365 is built over mineshafts on a type of raft foundations is it not? |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 8, 2022 23:18:06 GMT
Im sure i heard they cant build on it due to old mining works. If thats the case it even more gutting that it closed down. There was rumours for years of a big mineshaft on the centre green but whether true i don't know, wouldn't stop them building though it is surrounded by distribution warehouses and it wouldn't stop them when all said and done the bet 365 is built over mineshafts on a type of raft foundations is it not? Im not sure but there must be something there as its all old pit land. |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Jan 8, 2022 23:46:30 GMT
There was rumours for years of a big mineshaft on the centre green but whether true i don't know, wouldn't stop them building though it is surrounded by distribution warehouses and it wouldn't stop them when all said and done the bet 365 is built over mineshafts on a type of raft foundations is it not? Im not sure but there must be something there as its all old pit land. Yeah all of it was but it's not stopped them building warehouses, i think it's housing that they cannot build. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 9, 2022 0:21:45 GMT
Been watching a bit of different sport on tv lately, like British ice hockey, british basketball, etc It got me thinking would these sports thrive and generate crowds in Stoke on Trent if we had an arena type building. Ive watched a few ice hockey games and they generate great atmosphere and entertainment, or are we just a city of 2 football teams and little else. I also used to regularly watch stoke speedway, and was gutted when it and closed and would love to see it return one day. Oddly me and my wife were having this conversation only a few days ago. We both agreed that an indoor arena with a capacity of about 8k would be a brilliant idea. For starters Nathan Heaney could have his fights there as opposed to the Kings Hall which only holds about 1200 ? Also the area could then try to attract some decent musical acts to the area. As to its location…somewhere near the Bet365 makes sense due the the parking facilities and ease of access. Do you remember The Lomax in Stoke? I'm not sure what capacity it was but think it was bigger than The Victoria Hall and King's Hall. It closed after a couple of gigs. I saw Moby there, and I think it was Liberty X (?) who apparently turned up late for their gig that may also have been poorly attended, and the venue closed shortly after that. |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jan 9, 2022 0:55:35 GMT
Oddly me and my wife were having this conversation only a few days ago. We both agreed that an indoor arena with a capacity of about 8k would be a brilliant idea. For starters Nathan Heaney could have his fights there as opposed to the Kings Hall which only holds about 1200 ? Also the area could then try to attract some decent musical acts to the area. As to its location…somewhere near the Bet365 makes sense due the the parking facilities and ease of access. Do you remember The Lomax in Stoke? I'm not sure what capacity it was but think it was bigger than The Victoria Hall and King's Hall. It closed after a couple of gigs. I saw Moby there, and I think it was Liberty X (?) who apparently turned up late for their gig that may also have been poorly attended, and the venue closed shortly after that. I recall going to the Moby gig (with Lamb as the support act,) when buying the ticket I had to ask where the Lomax was as I'd never heard of it.Walking in my first impression was along the lines of: 'jesus, someone's thrown some money at this place...' It was a great space,I don't know if it was a failure of marketing/inability to attract decent acts or audiences that lead to is closure? A genuine shame that it didn't enjoy any longevity. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 9, 2022 1:10:46 GMT
Do you remember The Lomax in Stoke? I'm not sure what capacity it was but think it was bigger than The Victoria Hall and King's Hall. It closed after a couple of gigs. I saw Moby there, and I think it was Liberty X (?) who apparently turned up late for their gig that may also have been poorly attended, and the venue closed shortly after that. I recall going to the Moby gig (with Lamb as the support act,) when buying the ticket I had to ask where the Lomax was as I'd never heard of it.Walking in my first impression was along the lines of: 'jesus, someone's thrown some money at this place...' It was a great space,I don't know if it was a failure of marketing/inability to attract decent acts or audiences that lead to is closure? A genuine shame that it didn't enjoy any longevity. Nothing on The Sentinel website, but I have found this: www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/tears-plug-pulled-lomax-3553686Basically it was a Liverpool-based company that had an established venue in Liverpool and the new one in Stoke. They went into liquidation in 2003. What a shame and who knows what could have been, though maybe it was telling no one else took the Stoke venue on after all that effort for the refurbishment. I checked Google Street View, and the place looks a wreck now. I found this poster for the Moby gig too, and it seems they were expecting people to not know where the venue was: www.richardgoodallgallery.com/moby-211102-orange-11895-p.asp  |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jan 9, 2022 3:59:23 GMT
I recall going to the Moby gig (with Lamb as the support act,) when buying the ticket I had to ask where the Lomax was as I'd never heard of it.Walking in my first impression was along the lines of: 'jesus, someone's thrown some money at this place...' It was a great space,I don't know if it was a failure of marketing/inability to attract decent acts or audiences that lead to is closure? A genuine shame that it didn't enjoy any longevity. Nothing on The Sentinel website, but I have found this: www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/tears-plug-pulled-lomax-3553686Basically it was a Liverpool-based company that had an established venue in Liverpool and the new one in Stoke. They went into liquidation in 2003. What a shame and who knows what could have been, though maybe it was telling no one else took the Stoke venue on after all that effort for the refurbishment. I checked Google Street View, and the place looks a wreck now. I found this poster for the Moby gig too, and it seems they were expecting people to not know where the venue was: www.richardgoodallgallery.com/moby-211102-orange-11895-p.asp It was converted, badly, to student accommodation. As ever with these things around here the original developer went bump and it was finished off on a shoe string. Oh what could have been, walking to a venue like that instead of driving to Liverpool, Manchester, even Holmfirth or fucking Wolverhampton 😥😥😥 |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 9, 2022 11:30:19 GMT
It was converted, badly, to student accommodation. As ever with these things around here the original developer went bump and it was finished off on a shoe string. Oh what could have been, walking to a venue like that instead of driving to Liverpool, Manchester, even Holmfirth or fucking Wolverhampton 😥😥😥 To be fair though (and going off the original topic now), there have been great acts in Stoke-on-Trent the past few months. Manic Street Preachers, Wolf Alice and Paul Weller are three I'd usually expect to travel elsewhere. James played the Victoria Hall before the pandemic. And there are more big-name bands and comedians coming up (pandemic pending). I'm disappointed Nouvelle Vague were due to play The Sugarmill, but the post-pandemic tour has left it out. That's happened with a few bands. It doesn't help that there's no O2 venue, but I hate how O2 rip off bands/artists for everything they can, so I much prefer The Sugarmill etc. to stay independent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2022 11:37:30 GMT
Im not sure but there must be something there as its all old pit land. Yeah all of it was but it's not stopped them building warehouses, i think it's housing that they cannot build. I bought a house very close to the Speedway years ago , i fact you could hear it on A Saturday night. Was bought to renovate and flip. I paid cash for it but selling was a massive issue as buyers were denied mortgages due to mining reports etc. |
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