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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 31, 2021 14:12:19 GMT
Given our injury list, who are our actual options for playing central midfield?
Allen
Clucas
Wilmott
Tymon
Anyone else? I'm excluding Vrancic purely on the basis that I'm thinking of a 2 in midfield with him as the more attacking of the 3 be that in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.
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Post by adamsson on Dec 31, 2021 14:15:17 GMT
I think you might have understood the team selection
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 31, 2021 14:16:05 GMT
Thinking as TOB hasn't figured and we are down to the bare bones, he's not in the equation. For all the Allen knockers, I thought he was one of very few last night that played with any passion, infact, more than I have ever seen from him..If all of those mentioned,were to leave, I wouldn't shed any tears. The midfield needs a massive overhaul.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 31, 2021 14:19:10 GMT
How much longer is Thompson out for?
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 31, 2021 14:21:52 GMT
Realistically even when they are back, Powell, Thompson and Sawyer's will take weeks to get back up to speed, we can ill afford that, with matches coming thick and fast..
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 31, 2021 14:41:01 GMT
Realistically even when they are back, Powell, Thompson and Sawyer's will take weeks to get back up to speed, we can ill afford that, with matches coming thick and fast.. I think this season is probably a write off and the players know it. I don't think we have the quality or depth to deal with this number of injuries at all |
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 31, 2021 14:43:53 GMT
How much longer is Thompson out for? He's back out on the grass. That's all you need to know. |
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Post by samuel32 on Dec 31, 2021 15:05:32 GMT
Apparently the average age of our midfield was 31 compared to Derby’s 21. When was the last time an academy graduate became a regular in our first team? Are the present crop of u23s really worse than Clucas? They can’t be. If so something has gone badly wrong.
Personally I think playing one of the young’uns is almost worth it just to improve the atmosphere in our ground. Give the crowd something to cheers instead of the has-beens at the minute.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Dec 31, 2021 15:06:22 GMT
Thinking as TOB hasn't figured and we are down to the bare bones, he's not in the equation. For all the Allen knockers, I thought he was one of very few last night that played with any passion, infact, more than I have ever seen from him..If all of those mentioned,were to leave, I wouldn't shed any tears. The midfield needs a massive overhaul. I’m not a fan of Joe Allen but I did comment early in the second half that he was our only player not to have played worse than you expect from them. He then made a few typical Allen like errors but still was probably the best of a very bad bunch. We are desperate for some physical presence in midfield to shield the defence which in turn should allow our wingbacks to be more attack minded if they have it in them which I’m not sure they do despite some impressive early season stats. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 31, 2021 15:16:56 GMT
How much longer is Thompson out for? He's back out on the grass. That's all you need to know. Out to pasture? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 31, 2021 15:20:38 GMT
I doubt MON sees Wilmott as an option.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 31, 2021 15:27:14 GMT
Thinking as TOB hasn't figured and we are down to the bare bones, he's not in the equation. For all the Allen knockers, I thought he was one of very few last night that played with any passion, infact, more than I have ever seen from him..If all of those mentioned,were to leave, I wouldn't shed any tears. The midfield needs a massive overhaul. I didn't interpret as passion, rather frustration ......with the team? with himself? with the world, Clucas? the ref?...who knows? The problem is when he shows passion (if it is passion?) he loses all composure and cant control the ball, or find a decent pass. He actually gets worse the more he gets riled up, he just goes into headless chicken mode. I think he gets frustrated with his lack of physical presence and through getting knocked off the ball easily. |
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 31, 2021 15:28:10 GMT
I doubt MON sees Wilmott as an option. He doesn't and thats a problem. He should have a flat back 4 and wilmot infront of it but he's a stubborn old git who persists with a system he hasn't got the players for with so many injuries. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 31, 2021 15:54:02 GMT
I doubt MON sees Wilmott as an option. He doesn't and thats a problem. He should have a flat back 4 and wilmot infront of it but he's a stubborn old git who persists with a system he hasn't got the players for with so many injuries. Have you ever seen Wilmot play in central midfield for a full game? They put him there this season for 10 mins while we were chasing and he didn’t do badly, but that’s not really the same as playing there often. I also dislike the “can’t be much worse” statement, because they certainly can be. If Wilmot comes out of the back line, it would be Barth and Chester, which I wouldn’t be too excited about either. |
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Post by TinkerT on Dec 31, 2021 16:01:22 GMT
How much longer is Thompson out for? He's back out on the grass. That's all you need to know. That smoking or eating it? Our squad are that careless and laid back a good smoke is what they probably get up to at half time |
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 31, 2021 16:12:36 GMT
He's back out on the grass. That's all you need to know. That smoking or eating it? Our squad are that careless and laid back a good smoke is what they probably get up to at half time If it's smoking then I dare say we've been passing the pipe round the dressing room if last night is anything to go by. |
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 31, 2021 16:18:30 GMT
The midfield is a mess, with the current personnel available, we will struggle to dominate teams.
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Post by tejstokie on Dec 31, 2021 16:42:05 GMT
He doesn't and thats a problem. He should have a flat back 4 and wilmot infront of it but he's a stubborn old git who persists with a system he hasn't got the players for with so many injuries. Have you ever seen Wilmot play in central midfield for a full game? They put him there this season for 10 mins while we were chasing and he didn’t do badly, but that’s not really the same as playing there often. I also dislike the “can’t be much worse” statement, because they certainly can be. If Wilmot comes out of the back line, it would be Barth and Chester, which I wouldn’t be too excited about either. Stevenage where he was a midfielder and started many matches then was moved to defence, Watford also... You know in the premier league. He didn't start matches, but often was subbed in for whole halves at Watford in CDM role. He's our best defensive option for the middle if we move to a back four. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 31, 2021 17:08:44 GMT
He doesn't and thats a problem. He should have a flat back 4 and wilmot infront of it but he's a stubborn old git who persists with a system he hasn't got the players for with so many injuries. Have you ever seen Wilmot play in central midfield for a full game? They put him there this season for 10 mins while we were chasing and he didn’t do badly, but that’s not really the same as playing there often. I also dislike the “can’t be much worse” statement, because they certainly can be. If Wilmot comes out of the back line, it would be Barth and Chester, which I wouldn’t be too excited about either. Id wager he's a better CDM than Fox is a left wing back. |
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 31, 2021 17:22:19 GMT
Have you ever seen Wilmot play in central midfield for a full game? They put him there this season for 10 mins while we were chasing and he didn’t do badly, but that’s not really the same as playing there often. I also dislike the “can’t be much worse” statement, because they certainly can be. If Wilmot comes out of the back line, it would be Barth and Chester, which I wouldn’t be too excited about either. Id wager he's a better CDM than Fox is a left wing back. I'm a better CDM than Fox is a left wing back. I'm also a better astronaut. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 31, 2021 19:22:37 GMT
Have you ever seen Wilmot play in central midfield for a full game? They put him there this season for 10 mins while we were chasing and he didn’t do badly, but that’s not really the same as playing there often. I also dislike the “can’t be much worse” statement, because they certainly can be. If Wilmot comes out of the back line, it would be Barth and Chester, which I wouldn’t be too excited about either. Stevenage where he was a midfielder and started many matches then was moved to defence, Watford also... You know in the premier league. He didn't start matches, but often was subbed in for whole halves at Watford in CDM role. He's our best defensive option for the middle if we move to a back four. He played midfield for Stevenage U23s. He was moved to central defence for the first team in a career spanning 10 league games. “You know, in the Premier league”….he featured in two Premier League games, both seemingly in defence. Transfermarkt had him down as playing mostly as a centre back in his time at Watford: www.transfermarkt.us/ben-wilmot/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/467599/verein/1010He did play as DM 3x in cup games though. I’m sure that’s not completely accurate, but it does seem to suggest he’s rarely ever featured in midfield. He played mostly as a defender for Swansea as well. |
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