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Post by apb1 on Dec 6, 2021 13:20:34 GMT
Spurs away, new ground cheap ticket Man C away, son might be able to get a box seat West Ham Wimbledon Orient Cambridge Ipswich not far from me
Otherwise a nice easy home game (ha ha)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2021 13:24:50 GMT
For most of the 90s the number wasn't known I don't think? Is a 21st Century thing, think it maybe came in halfway through the 2010s? Is rubbish anyway. They've always put a table of them at the start haven't they? That isn't my recollection? They maybe flashed something up before they headed off to Lancaster Gate with them on? This practice of having the numbers of the clubs visible during the draw itself definitely didn't happen though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 13:27:15 GMT
. . . . is Stoke City in tonight’s FA Cup draw. A home tie against ball number 47 would be very nice indeed. Who is 47? A top Prem side at home the only decent draw. Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool etc. full house, TV. Chances are get well beat but better than going out away to Swansea or Brentford
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2021 13:30:03 GMT
They've always put a table of them at the start haven't they? That isn't my recollection? They maybe flashed something up before they headed off to Lancaster Gate with them on? This practice of having the numbers of the clubs visible during the draw itself definitely didn't happen though. Yeah it wasn't like a full Sky Sports News graphic but always thought they went through at the start.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 6, 2021 13:36:14 GMT
That isn't my recollection? They maybe flashed something up before they headed off to Lancaster Gate with them on? This practice of having the numbers of the clubs visible during the draw itself definitely didn't happen though. Yeah it wasn't like a full Sky Sports News graphic but always thought they went through at the start. I remember when they used to give you a few numbers to look out for - not the full list, I reckon that was mid 90s.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 6, 2021 13:36:52 GMT
. . . . is Stoke City in tonight’s FA Cup draw. A home tie against ball number 47 would be very nice indeed. Who is 47? A top Prem side at home the only decent draw. Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool etc. full house, TV. Chances are get well beat but better than going out away to Swansea or Brentford The Soap Dodgers presumably. Some people are serious masochists.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 6, 2021 13:39:25 GMT
I can't believe there's actual Stoke fans who don't want to draw Vale.
It's been 20 years since we last played them, surely must be the longest running period of time that a local derby hasn't been played in the history of this country?
It seems some local derbies get drawn against each other in the cups often yet we've managed to avoid Vale all this time.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Dec 6, 2021 13:43:16 GMT
Anyone but V***… Kidderminster away would be lovely. Oh what a joyous picture Comberton Hill would be
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 13:46:19 GMT
Who is 47? A top Prem side at home the only decent draw. Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool etc. full house, TV. Chances are get well beat but better than going out away to Swansea or Brentford The Soap Dodgers presumably. Some people are serious masochists. would be a naff draw. About as exciting as drawing Barnet
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2021 13:47:23 GMT
I can't believe there's actual Stoke fans who don't want to draw Vale. It's been 20 years since we last played them, surely must be the longest running period of time that a local derby hasn't been played in the history of this country? It seems some local derbies get drawn against each other in the cups often yet we've managed to avoid Vale all this time. I can't believe there are Stoke fans who do. It's a miserable experience, for the most part.
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2021 13:56:53 GMT
Is not knowing the ball number some kind of 70's/80's thing? It's always been said as far as I can remember back and that adds to the anticipation waiting to hear that number. It used to be a radio 2 draw at 12:30 on the Monday You never knew the number and all you could hear was the ball pulled out of the bag followed by the number and you hoped it was either Stoke or not Now you know if it’s Stoke by the number that’s pulled out so it’s lost it’s magic as it was all serious with just the draw ….if was literally a 3 minute show where as soon as the last ball was out it finished with “ and that concludes the draw for the ( whatever ) round of the fa cup with ties played weekend of ( whenever )” Perhaps it’s just me I thought you did know the number? just less well publicised? could easily be wrong mind draw was better on the radio at the very least they should bring back the velvet bag & the polished wooden balls not the plastic rubbish we have now
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 6, 2021 13:57:15 GMT
. . . . is Stoke City in tonight’s FA Cup draw. A home tie against ball number 47 would be very nice indeed. Why, who's number 47???
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2021 13:59:31 GMT
I can't believe there's actual Stoke fans who don't want to draw Vale. It's been 20 years since we last played them, surely must be the longest running period of time that a local derby hasn't been played in the history of this country? It seems some local derbies get drawn against each other in the cups often yet we've managed to avoid Vale all this time. we never draw them in the league cup for the simple reason that Vale never get through to the second round they rarely get to the 3rd round of the FA cup although 20 years ago we would have been in first round draw
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 6, 2021 14:04:17 GMT
Vale at home I hope. I just can't wait to see what happens to this board if it happens. Some of you lot will be shitting yourselves. Me? I'm up for it and I reckon we'd hammer them big time. For those that disagree, I give you The Golden One cracking in the 1st at Fail Park and Glegs clinching the game. Only if you were there can you know what a fabulous night that was to be a Stokie. OS.
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Post by toppercorner on Dec 6, 2021 14:06:33 GMT
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Post by werrington on Dec 6, 2021 14:12:58 GMT
It used to be a radio 2 draw at 12:30 on the Monday You never knew the number and all you could hear was the ball pulled out of the bag followed by the number and you hoped it was either Stoke or not Now you know if it’s Stoke by the number that’s pulled out so it’s lost it’s magic as it was all serious with just the draw ….if was literally a 3 minute show where as soon as the last ball was out it finished with “ and that concludes the draw for the ( whatever ) round of the fa cup with ties played weekend of ( whenever )” Perhaps it’s just me I thought you did know the number? just less well publicised? could easily be wrong mind draw was better on the radio at the very least they should bring back the velvet bag & the polished wooden balls not the plastic rubbish we have now No you’d just get a few numbers like Liverpool and the giant killer from previous round
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 14:14:40 GMT
Vale at home I hope. I just can't wait to see what happens to this board if it happens. Some of you lot will be shitting yourselves. Me? I'm up for it and I reckon we'd hammer them big time. For those that disagree, I give you The Golden One cracking in the 1st at Fail Park and Glegs clinching the game. Only if you were there can you know what a fabulous night that was to be a Stokie. OS. I don't get the whole local derby thing in football. Because a team are local...so what? I get say Man U v Man City as competing together but some team from the basement leagues because they're local I don't get. The FA Cup for me you want a big team, not some club I couldn't name the manager of. Drawing Port Vale would be as exciting as getting Roger Whittaker live at Whitchurch team rooms on CD for Xmas. Actually no..... apologies to Roger for that comment.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 6, 2021 14:15:49 GMT
It's got to be the Vale, if only for an opportunity to belt out the MON song as Tyrese is lashing home the 4th...
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 6, 2021 14:15:53 GMT
I can't believe there's actual Stoke fans who don't want to draw Vale. It's been 20 years since we last played them, surely must be the longest running period of time that a local derby hasn't been played in the history of this country? It seems some local derbies get drawn against each other in the cups often yet we've managed to avoid Vale all this time. I can't believe there are Stoke fans who do. It's a miserable experience, for the most part. Toilet repair people must long for it.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 6, 2021 14:17:32 GMT
Knowing the number takes all the magic away from it all It’s wank Remember not knowing how many minutes of injury time there were? How open to abuse that was!
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Post by lordb on Dec 6, 2021 14:18:54 GMT
I thought you did know the number? just less well publicised? could easily be wrong mind draw was better on the radio at the very least they should bring back the velvet bag & the polished wooden balls not the plastic rubbish we have now No you’d just get a few numbers like Liverpool and the giant killer from previous round that rings a bell however I can remember knowing our number (it's nearly always 35 to 39) & hearing the draw on the radio
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 6, 2021 14:40:23 GMT
I can't believe there's actual Stoke fans who don't want to draw Vale. It's been 20 years since we last played them, surely must be the longest running period of time that a local derby hasn't been played in the history of this country? It seems some local derbies get drawn against each other in the cups often yet we've managed to avoid Vale all this time. I can't believe there are Stoke fans who do. It's a miserable experience, for the most part. It's what football is about though! As the matchday experience becomes increasingly sterile, especially in the Premier League, a Potteries derby on the back of a terrible couple of years is exactly what the people of this city need. Despite them doing alright this season in their respective league, this squad is more than capable of dispatching them comfortably. It doesn't matter anyway because we'll probably draw Preston away or something equally as boring
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 6, 2021 14:53:18 GMT
I can't believe there are Stoke fans who do. It's a miserable experience, for the most part. It's what football is about though! As the matchday experience becomes increasingly sterile, especially in the Premier League, a Potteries derby on the back of a terrible couple of years is exactly what the people of this city need. Despite them doing alright this season in their respective league, this squad is more than capable of dispatching them comfortably. It doesn't matter anyway because we'll probably draw Preston away or something equally as boring It rarely works out like that irrespective of what the squad is capable of though. There's nothing to gain for us and it's a cup final for them. I think people who are excited at the prospect of one have either forgotten what the reality of them usually is or not experienced one before. For every night like 31st March 1993 there's 2-3 pig ugly draws or turgid humiliations like February 2002.
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Post by Gods on Dec 6, 2021 14:58:56 GMT
It’s not difficult to work out, it’s in alphabetical order. I can remember when nobody knew the numbers, I was a kid though I’m sure so early 90’s probably. If Stoke are 38 and Port Vale are 47 how is it in alphabetical order? Harrogate are 64. It is for new entries in round 3 I think but the rest all looks a bit random.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 6, 2021 15:00:04 GMT
I don't understand the appetite for drawing Vale.
They're actually a decent side that have beaten two League One sides to reach this stage already. We're a decent side ourselves, but we have a recent history or losing to similar teams.
Being a younger fan it doesn't bother me if we never play them again. We've made cup finals and beaten everyone of note at the Bet365. I'll cope.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 6, 2021 15:02:03 GMT
It’s not difficult to work out, it’s in alphabetical order. I can remember when nobody knew the numbers, I was a kid though I’m sure so early 90’s probably. If Stoke are 38 and Port Vale are 47 how is it in alphabetical order? Harrogate are 64. It is for new entries in round 3 I think but the rest all looks a bit random. You’re quite right mate, looks like only the top two leagues are alphabetical.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 15:06:37 GMT
Pretty sure we were always 37 or 38. You'd then get folk saying we would have drawn such and such , whoever the team who knocked us out drew if we'd got through which wouldn't have been the case unless was a replay and the draw already mase of course. The great thing about the FA Cup is the random-ness (is that a word?) as anyone can draw anyone but sadly you end up playing a second string these days pretty much.
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Post by onionman on Dec 6, 2021 15:14:45 GMT
Who else remembers our epic cup run of 1989, where we beat Crystal Palace and then drew with Barnsley at home. We reached a pinnacle of excitement when the old blokes doing the 5th round draw pulled out Stoke City or Barnsley versus Everton. Our pink panthers were going to invade Goodison Park if we could beat David Currie and Barnsley!
Obviously we lost the replay to Barnsley, so the draw for a round we didn’t even qualify for - and the dream of a would-be match against Everton that never happened - ended up going down as one of our finest FA Cup moments of the 1980s.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 6, 2021 15:21:27 GMT
1-44 is the top two divisions in alphabetical order, so its easy to work out Stoke's number if you didn't know it
45-64 is the teams who won at the weekend and how they were drawn out for the last draw, so Vale being 47 is because their tie was the third drawn out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 15:24:25 GMT
Who else remembers our epic cup run of 1989, where we beat Crystal Palace and then drew with Barnsley at home. We reached a pinnacle of excitement when the old blokes doing the 5th round draw pulled out Stoke City or Barnsley versus Everton. Our pink panthers were going to invade Goodison Park if we could beat David Currie and Barnsley! Obviously we lost the replay to Barnsley, so the draw for a round we didn’t even qualify for - and the dream of a would-be match against Everton that never happened - ended up going down as one of our finest FA Cup moments of the 1980s. Didn't the winners v Bristol City play Everton as well? We lost the replay 0-2. The 2 Barnsley games were good matches.
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