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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 29, 2021 12:55:59 GMT
But mid table for fouls committed🤔They still hate us
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Post by sneydgreenstokie1 on Nov 29, 2021 13:07:45 GMT
Hardly a surprise.
At least the ref actually handed some the opposition on Saturday, although it could have been many more
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 29, 2021 13:09:06 GMT
If the tackle on Vrancic at Bristol City had been by one of our players on one of theirs we all know what the outcome would have been......
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Post by onepara on Nov 29, 2021 13:13:30 GMT
There are fouls/tackles being done in the Prem that are being yellow carded in the Championship. Work that one out. Refs are supposed to have been told to be more lenient. Let the game flow.
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Post by theoptimist on Nov 29, 2021 14:18:00 GMT
How many for frivolous crap (eg clucas mardarsary), rather than actual tackles?
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Post by thevoid on Nov 29, 2021 14:22:30 GMT
A manager worth his salt would be moaning in the press about this
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 29, 2021 15:11:13 GMT
Doesn't surprise me. I wonder if there are any stats for how many have been given to us and our opponents for time wasting. At least Saturday's ref dished some of those out to Blackburn and I credit him for not sending Davies off. Some referees would have been quick to dish out a red to us there. I think we still suffer from Wenger's and MOTD's focusing on our dirty play and crowd influence under Pulis.
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Post by Brist_AL on Nov 29, 2021 17:05:12 GMT
Doesn't surprise me. I wonder if there are any stats for how many have been given to us and our opponents for time wasting. At least Saturday's ref dished some of those out to Blackburn and I credit him for not sending Davies off. Some referees would have been quick to dish out a red to us there. I think we still suffer from Wenger's and MOTD's focusing on our dirty play and crowd influence under Pulis. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Nov 29, 2021 17:35:04 GMT
How many for frivolous crap (eg clucas mardarsary), rather than actual tackles? I think Sawyers got one at the weekend for standing near someone menacingly. The ref obviously hadn't seen much of him or he'd have know he doesn't make challenges. |
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 29, 2021 18:20:36 GMT
No game-flow in this league allowed. Most of the refs are attention-seekers blinded by an old stereotype.
In this last match - it was weird seeing the OTHER team get cards and us actually getting away with a couple!
But "normal programming" was quickly resumed - they ensured that the critical call went against us.
When I'm angry, I wish we'd just embrace the stereotype and become a swarming pack of sadistic gangsters.
Recruit from prisons, hoist a pirate flag and wreak havoc. It's clearly who the league wants us to be.
But then I calm down and realize: It's just the Age of the Whiner. (Sponsored by people like Arsene Wenger)
1) Stoke has never cared about what the league wanted us to be.
2) Assembling psychos in large groups is no longer allowed outside of politics & the media.
3) Journalists are arrogant & lazy, clinging to bias and old stereotypes instead of doing research and learning something.
4) Refs believe what they see/hear from the media.
5) The stereotype was never accurate. We wanted it more than other teams.
Other teams couldn't admit that to their fans, instead whining that we pushed them down on the playground and stole their lunch money.
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Post by Goonie on Nov 29, 2021 18:34:36 GMT
Do we get promoted?
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Post by Veritas on Nov 29, 2021 20:43:53 GMT
A manager worth his salt would be moaning in the press about this No he wouldn't he would be making the point in a mature and sensible way to the appropriate authority, ranting in public merely attracts more problems. |
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Post by thevoid on Nov 29, 2021 21:40:20 GMT
A manager worth his salt would be moaning in the press about this No he wouldn't he would be making the point in a mature and sensible way to the appropriate authority, ranting in public merely attracts more problems. Well he isn't doing that either unless I've missed it |
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Post by Veritas on Nov 29, 2021 22:02:56 GMT
No he wouldn't he would be making the point in a mature and sensible way to the appropriate authority, ranting in public merely attracts more problems. Well he isn't doing that either unless I've missed it I've no idea if he is but if he is doing it privately then we wouldn't would we. |
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Post by Gods on Nov 29, 2021 22:49:23 GMT
Oh we're gonna get some cards and we're going up the league
Up The League
Up The league
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 30, 2021 3:41:03 GMT
I'd love to see a league table based on results following an International break.
Surely we'd be propping that fucker up
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Post by Stoke711 on Nov 30, 2021 11:10:44 GMT
How many for frivolous crap (eg clucas mardarsary), rather than actual tackles? This is a great point. So many times players booked near the end of games for time wasting. It would be better if the yellow cards were broken down so we could get a more accurate picture. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Nov 30, 2021 11:59:30 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if about 2/3 have been accrued in the last month or so. We seem to have had at least 3 or 4 cards a game since Blackpool. We have gone from being soft to extremely cynical, with a huge dose of awful refereeing also thrown in.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Dec 3, 2021 3:41:43 GMT
The refs always seem not just quicker to card our players but almost eager …we never seemed to take the piss, time wasting or rolling about on the floor when an opposition player touched you shirt, going down like there was a sniper in the crowd…. But when you get it done to you game after game refs do nothing to stop it, so you we may as well do it .have to say though I don’t like seeing it…I particularly hate the diving and rolling around…then 2 mins later “a miracle” the player is back up and running about cured “praise be”…
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