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Post by greenhoff on Apr 6, 2022 8:26:47 GMT
i think John went on to do bigger things with 5live and world service for the BBC he was brilliant though, much better than the vale supporting bowers! Does he not do the breakfast show anymore? Just checked he's still on the books!
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Post by bhp on Apr 6, 2022 8:42:53 GMT
How come we rarely get any relatively recent ex players commenting- a Fuller or a Lawrence, someone of that ilk? They used to get Lawrence or Gleghorn on. I know Pejic does it sometimes but he's a moaning old bugger and they really need to get the age of that commentary box down, it's like Last of the Summer Wine at times. I know sometimes they have Gabriel Zakuani on but- no disrespect to him- he's hardly what you'd call an iconic or long-serving Stoke player. Chris Iwelumo did Signal Radio a few times in the past, he was ok i think its hard for lawrence now he is employed by the club again, bbc and im sure the club have some impartiality rules Liam Lawrence and Gareth Owen have both done commentary whilst employed by the club
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2022 8:45:45 GMT
i think its hard for lawrence now he is employed by the club again, bbc and im sure the club have some impartiality rules Liam Lawrence and Gareth Owen have both done commentary whilst employed by the club They have but they’re restricted in what they can say without the club complaining
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 6, 2022 9:44:11 GMT
How come we rarely get any relatively recent ex players commenting- a Fuller or a Lawrence, someone of that ilk? They used to get Lawrence or Gleghorn on. I know Pejic does it sometimes but he's a moaning old bugger and they really need to get the age of that commentary box down, it's like Last of the Summer Wine at times. I know sometimes they have Gabriel Zakuani on but- no disrespect to him- he's hardly what you'd call an iconic or long-serving Stoke player. Chris Iwelumo did Signal Radio a few times in the past, he was ok I’m not so bothered about whether they’re ex players, or iconic ex players. Just somebody who knows their shit, can give a few insights into tactics etc and doesn’t just state the obvious.
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 6, 2022 9:44:46 GMT
Commentary was so infuriating tonight Nige “ brown will be disappointed with that one won’t he ange” Ange “ yes Nigel, he really needs to hit the target from 1 yard out Nigel, rather than blazing it over, if he had hit the target he might have scored” Nigel” then it would have been 2-2” Angela “ that’s right Nigel and we would have had a point” Angela “ can I say Port Vale have scored so now they’re winning and unless Salford score they will take 3 points” Nigel “ and that would mean 3 points better off” Angela “ correct Nigel, and Crewe are losing 2-0 so unless they can score 2 then they get nil points” Nigel “ and on the same points I’d imagine” Angela “ unfortunately that’s right Nigel” Nigel “ and do you think Harwood Taylor bellis will be disappointed Angela” he’ll probably be thinking, don’t head it into your own goal next time head it over your goal” Nigel “ and if he’d of done that they wouldn’t have scored” Angela “ that’s correct Nigel” Nigel “ thanks Angela” Angela “ your welcome Nigel” That would make Michael Owen cringe
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Post by callas12 on Apr 6, 2022 11:03:41 GMT
i think John went on to do bigger things with 5live and world service for the BBC he was brilliant though, much better than the vale supporting bowers! Does he not do the breakfast show anymore? He does a few days towards the end of the week and Lee Blakeman does the first few days breakfast shows. Something to do with John having family commitments in his home town of Plymouth I believe. Have mentioned on here numerous times John was quality on Radio Stoke, there was a time back a good few years ago now where he all of a sudden lost the Sports anchor role and became a kind of roving reporter for various articles that were featured during daily shows. Nothing was ever revealed about the reasons for this sudden change but there was clearly some kind of politics at play. It was over an on air conversion that Acres and Nigel Gleghorn were having regarding TP's team selection or tactics during or following a match, couldn't tell you which. Sure following that occasion Acres never did the sport again and Gleghorn was never seen or heard of again! Gleghorn was another who used to explain the game well and wasn't slow in coming forward if something needed to be said. Both Big misses at that time. No information to confirm but from knowing how he operated I'm guessing Tony Scholes requested the Radio Stoke powers that be pull the plug on them covering Stoke matches going forwards and that's exactly what happened. Acres did manage to seek more work on the BBC national scene on TV & radio and was eventually made the breakfast host at Radio Stoke. The situation with Radio Stoke's match day coverage is getting a weekly discussion topic on here and that's never a good thing. I'm not going to criticise or critique individuals but I firmly believe Stoke City FC should have a designated Radio Stoke presenter covering solely their matches in the way John Acres and going back even further Ivan Gaskell used to do. & they aside from presenting the show provide the full match commentary. I know teams in other areas use to specialise & focus in on one club, think its time Radio Stoke did likewise...again. Then if we perhaps have an ex player (current with meaningful purpose with insightful views) which would then free Nigel Johnson up to have more of a match summariser type role. That then takes the pressure off him having to work his way through a 90min commementary & allows him to both watch the game & team he clearly adores and be more insightful in his opinions rather than having to simply say things to avoid the quiet spells as I believe this is where he sometimes goes off on a bit of a tangent seemingly more so these days. Maybe I have critiqued Nige somewhat but it isn't pleasant hearing the negative comments about him every week. As others have said, Nige I'm sure would be happy to continue until told otherwise but Radio Stoke need to start taking some sort of ownership & deal with the situation in hand which is getting quite uncomfortable listening on occasions right now.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2022 11:06:10 GMT
Does he not do the breakfast show anymore? He does a few days towards the end of the week and Lee Blakeman does the first few days breakfast shows. Something to do with John having family commitments in his home town of Plymouth I believe. Have mentioned on here numerous times John was quality on Radio Stoke, there was a time back a good few years ago now where he all of a sudden lost the Sports anchor role and became a kind of roving reporter for various articles that were featured during daily shows. Nothing was ever revealed about the reasons for this sudden change but there was clearly some kind of politics at play. It was over an on air conversion that Acres and Nigel Gleghorn were having regarding TP's team selection or tactics during or following a match, couldn't tell you which. Sure following that occasion Acres never did the sport again and Gleghorn was never seen or heard of again! Gleghorn was another who used to explain the game well and wasn't slow in coming forward if something needed to be said. Both Big misses at that time. No information to confirm but from knowing how he operated I'm guessing Tony Scholes requested the Radio Stoke powers that be pull the plug on them covering Stoke matches going forwards and that's exactly what happened. Acres did manage to seek more work on the BBC national scene on TV & radio and was eventually made the breakfast host at Radio Stoke. The situation with Radio Stoke's match day coverage is getting a weekly discussing topic on here and that's never right. I'm not going to criticise or critique individuals but I firmly believe Stoke City FC should have a designated Radio Stoke presenter covering solely their matches in the way John Acres and going back even further Ivan Gaskell used to do. & they aside from presenting the show provide the full match commentary. I know teams in other areas use to specialise & focus in on one club, think its time Radio Stoke did likewise...again. Then if we perhaps have an ex player (current with meaningful purpose with insightful views) which would then free Nigel Johnson up to have more of a match summariser type role. That then takes the pressure off him having to work his way through a 90min commementary & allows him to both watch the game & team he clearly adores and be more insightful in his opinions rather than having to simply say things to avoid the quiet spells as I believe this is where he sometimes goes off on a bit of a tangent seemingly more so these days. Maybe I have critiqued Nige somewhat but it isn't pleasant hearing the negative comments about him every week. As others have said, Nige I'm sure would be happy to continue until told otherwise but Radio Stoke need to start taking some sort of ownership & deal with the situation in hand which is getting quite uncomfortable listening on occasions right now. Nigel Johnson summarising 🤣🤣🤣Was that serious mate🤔
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Post by callas12 on Apr 6, 2022 11:15:43 GMT
He does a few days towards the end of the week and Lee Blakeman does the first few days breakfast shows. Something to do with John having family commitments in his home town of Plymouth I believe. Have mentioned on here numerous times John was quality on Radio Stoke, there was a time back a good few years ago now where he all of a sudden lost the Sports anchor role and became a kind of roving reporter for various articles that were featured during daily shows. Nothing was ever revealed about the reasons for this sudden change but there was clearly some kind of politics at play. It was over an on air conversion that Acres and Nigel Gleghorn were having regarding TP's team selection or tactics during or following a match, couldn't tell you which. Sure following that occasion Acres never did the sport again and Gleghorn was never seen or heard of again! Gleghorn was another who used to explain the game well and wasn't slow in coming forward if something needed to be said. Both Big misses at that time. No information to confirm but from knowing how he operated I'm guessing Tony Scholes requested the Radio Stoke powers that be pull the plug on them covering Stoke matches going forwards and that's exactly what happened. Acres did manage to seek more work on the BBC national scene on TV & radio and was eventually made the breakfast host at Radio Stoke. The situation with Radio Stoke's match day coverage is getting a weekly discussing topic on here and that's never right. I'm not going to criticise or critique individuals but I firmly believe Stoke City FC should have a designated Radio Stoke presenter covering solely their matches in the way John Acres and going back even further Ivan Gaskell used to do. & they aside from presenting the show provide the full match commentary. I know teams in other areas use to specialise & focus in on one club, think its time Radio Stoke did likewise...again. Then if we perhaps have an ex player (current with meaningful purpose with insightful views) which would then free Nigel Johnson up to have more of a match summariser type role. That then takes the pressure off him having to work his way through a 90min commementary & allows him to both watch the game & team he clearly adores and be more insightful in his opinions rather than having to simply say things to avoid the quiet spells as I believe this is where he sometimes goes off on a bit of a tangent seemingly more so these days. Maybe I have critiqued Nige somewhat but it isn't pleasant hearing the negative comments about him every week. As others have said, Nige I'm sure would be happy to continue until told otherwise but Radio Stoke need to start taking some sort of ownership & deal with the situation in hand which is getting quite uncomfortable listening on occasions right now. Nigel Johnson summarising 🤣🤣🤣Was that serious mate🤔 😬🙄😉.. It kind of was, perhaps 'Contributer' would of been a better description than summariser.. Guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think he should be removed totally from the match day radio scene but it definitely needs freshening up throughout from what it is right now. I despair at how they choose who to summarise the matches these days. I mean Gabriel Zakuani ?! He played less than 30 games for us in the 2007/08 season (on loan!) and yet is appointed by Radio Stoke to give expert match analysis! WTF! He's often late to the actual match as keeps getting stuck in traffic. You'd of thought he'd be tuned in to a Radio Stoke Traffic Bulletin wouldn't you 😉🤣.. He must of laughed when they initially got in contact with him! It's equivalent to Radio Lancashire asking ex Blackpool loanee Andy Wilkinson to go and commentate on their matches! It's kind of beyond desperate.. Andy Quy comes on now and again and he was our ex keeper coach! It's beyond painful sometimes!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2022 11:31:09 GMT
Nigel Johnson summarising 🤣🤣🤣Was that serious mate🤔 😬🙄😉.. It kind of was, perhaps 'Contributer' would of been a better description than summariser.. Guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think he should be removed totally from the match day radio scene but it definitely needs freshening up throughout from what it is right now. I despair at how they choose who to summarise the matches these days. I mean Gabriel Zakuani ?! He played less than 30 games for us in the 2007/08 season (on loan!) and yet is appointed by Radio Stoke to give expert match analysis! WTF! He's often late to the actual match as keeps getting stuck in traffic. You'd of thought he'd be tuned in to a Radio Stoke Traffic Bulletin wouldn't you 😉🤣.. He must of laughed when they initially got in contact with him! It's equivalent to Radio Lancashire asking ex Blackpool loanee Andy Wilkinson to go and commentate on their matches! It's kind of beyond desperate.. Andy Quy comes on now and again and he was our ex keeper coach! It's beyond painful sometimes! Yes he certainly does need removing ASAP for his own good/health. As for Zakuani I understand your point but at least he provides abit of football knowledge. As for older ex players my understanding is they don’t want it. Radio Derby seem to be doing exactly the same also with co commentators/summarises with Jamie Ward,Kevin Wilson,Charlie Palmer and Bobby Davison all having spells doing it. As I’ve said for years the whole sports set up at the station needs ripping up and starting again
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Post by callas12 on Apr 6, 2022 11:49:57 GMT
😬🙄😉.. It kind of was, perhaps 'Contributer' would of been a better description than summariser.. Guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think he should be removed totally from the match day radio scene but it definitely needs freshening up throughout from what it is right now. I despair at how they choose who to summarise the matches these days. I mean Gabriel Zakuani ?! He played less than 30 games for us in the 2007/08 season (on loan!) and yet is appointed by Radio Stoke to give expert match analysis! WTF! He's often late to the actual match as keeps getting stuck in traffic. You'd of thought he'd be tuned in to a Radio Stoke Traffic Bulletin wouldn't you 😉🤣.. He must of laughed when they initially got in contact with him! It's equivalent to Radio Lancashire asking ex Blackpool loanee Andy Wilkinson to go and commentate on their matches! It's kind of beyond desperate.. Andy Quy comes on now and again and he was our ex keeper coach! It's beyond painful sometimes! Yes he certainly does need removing ASAP for his own good/health. As for Zakuani I understand your point but at least he provides abit of football knowledge. As for older ex players my understanding is they don’t want it. Radio Derby seem to be doing exactly the same also with co commentators/summarises with Jamie Ward,Kevin Wilson,Charlie Palmer and Bobby Davison all having spells doing it. As I’ve said for years the whole sports set up at the station needs ripping up and starting again Guessing no-one wants to sit down and have the conversation with Nige about it. It's the age we live in isn't it, where people probably don't want to appear age'ist or to hurt the guys feelings. But last night's commentary was equivalent to 2x mates sat in the stand having an ongoing chat about the game. Poor Ange was trying to second guess what Nige was going to say next and often had to correct him with what was going on without meaning to sound like she was correcting his every observation. There is a place for this type of commentary and the Rotherham away game a season or so back was a prime example of how it could work if all the elements are right. They were unbiased, informative, intuitive and more importantly humorous without being cringeworthy about things. It all just worked & actually received alot of positive comments from Stokies during the match! Bringing back John Acres to resume match day duties for Stoke would be my instant solution if he was up for it. He's employed by Radio Stoke so wouldn't require a great deal of effort, especially now Scholes has gone, game on!
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 6, 2022 11:54:59 GMT
John Acres' personal life is changing and he's playing lesser roles for RS these days. I don't blame him one bit for that and wish him well wherever he goes. I don't get the anger against Ange. She's not afraid to say we're crap when we are and she knows her nogger even though she was *only* a World Champion in another sport - Squash. But most of all she's a dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and sometimes she lets rip but without the sort of bad language I would use. Nige is just Nige and I love him to bits for what he is and what he represents. He's also a lifelong dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and, to me, he's part of the matchday furniture. For some strange reason, he doesn't get under my skin with his foibles and often amusing clangers. Maybe it is time for him to retire if only it's to stop this constant dissing of a true Stokie legend. I'm sure he'd always be welcome as a guest whenever he feels he wants to pass on a bit of his past history to most of the mere mortals that listen to RS... and that includes me. So what comes after? To be honest, nothing less than another Ivan Gaskell would do for me. Second best would be Lee Blakeman. I like the lad and he's also a Stokie, and he originally comes from Neck End. OS.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 6, 2022 11:57:20 GMT
Yes he certainly does need removing ASAP for his own good/health. As for Zakuani I understand your point but at least he provides abit of football knowledge. As for older ex players my understanding is they don’t want it. Radio Derby seem to be doing exactly the same also with co commentators/summarises with Jamie Ward,Kevin Wilson,Charlie Palmer and Bobby Davison all having spells doing it. As I’ve said for years the whole sports set up at the station needs ripping up and starting again Guessing no-one wants to sit down and have the conversation with Nige about it. It's the age we live in isn't it, where people probably don't want to appear age'ist or to hurt the guys feelings. But last night's commentary was equivalent to 2x mates sat in the stand having an ongoing chat about the game. Poor Ange was trying to second guess what Nige was going to say next and often had to correct him with what was going on without meaning to sound like she was correcting his every observation. There is a place for this type of commentary and the Rotherham away game a season or so back was a prime example of how it could work if all the elements are right. They were unbiased, informative, intuitive and more importantly humorous without being cringeworthy about things. It all just worked & actually received alot of positive comments from Stokies during the match! Bringing back John Acres to resume match day duties for Stoke would be my instant solution if he was up for it. He's employed by Radio Stoke so wouldn't require a great deal of effort, especially now Scholes has gone, game on! Doubt it's got anything to do with Scholes or any other individual it's club culture. Anything overtly critical or probing questioning by local media and the club restricts access to them.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2022 11:58:45 GMT
Yes he certainly does need removing ASAP for his own good/health. As for Zakuani I understand your point but at least he provides abit of football knowledge. As for older ex players my understanding is they don’t want it. Radio Derby seem to be doing exactly the same also with co commentators/summarises with Jamie Ward,Kevin Wilson,Charlie Palmer and Bobby Davison all having spells doing it. As I’ve said for years the whole sports set up at the station needs ripping up and starting again Guessing no-one wants to sit down and have the conversation with Nige about it. It's the age we live in isn't it, where people probably don't want to appear age'ist or to hurt the guys feelings. But last night's commentary was equivalent to 2x mates sat in the stand having an ongoing chat about the game. Poor Ange was trying to second guess what Nige was going to say next and often had to correct him with what was going on without meaning to sound like she was correcting his every observation. There is a place for this type of commentary and the Rotherham away game a season or so back was a prime example of how it could work if all the elements are right. They were unbiased, informative, intuitive and more importantly humorous without being cringeworthy about things. It all just worked & actually received alot of positive comments from Stokies during the match! Bringing back John Acres to resume match day duties for Stoke would be my instant solution if he was up for it. He's employed by Radio Stoke so wouldn't require a great deal of effort, especially now Scholes has gone, game on! I think you’ll be bang on about Nige and his age to be honest. As for Acres sadly I think his days at Sport are long gone
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Apr 6, 2022 12:10:46 GMT
Guessing no-one wants to sit down and have the conversation with Nige about it. It's the age we live in isn't it, where people probably don't want to appear age'ist or to hurt the guys feelings. But last night's commentary was equivalent to 2x mates sat in the stand having an ongoing chat about the game. Poor Ange was trying to second guess what Nige was going to say next and often had to correct him with what was going on without meaning to sound like she was correcting his every observation. There is a place for this type of commentary and the Rotherham away game a season or so back was a prime example of how it could work if all the elements are right. They were unbiased, informative, intuitive and more importantly humorous without being cringeworthy about things. It all just worked & actually received alot of positive comments from Stokies during the match! Bringing back John Acres to resume match day duties for Stoke would be my instant solution if he was up for it. He's employed by Radio Stoke so wouldn't require a great deal of effort, especially now Scholes has gone, game on! I think you’ll be bang on about Nige and his age to be honest. As for Acres sadly I think his days at Sport are long gone Yeh, he commentates on 5live and final score now anyway, so that ship has truly sailed. No way he'd give that up to commentate on Stoke again, which is a shame as he was really decent.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 6, 2022 12:17:24 GMT
John Acres' personal life is changing and he's playing lesser roles for RS these days. I don't blame him one bit for that and wish him well wherever he goes. I don't get the anger against Ange. She's not afraid to say we're crap when we are and she knows her nogger even though she was *only* a World Champion in another sport - Squash. But most of all she's a dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and sometimes she lets rip but without the sort of bad language I would use. Nige is just Nige and I love him to bits for what he is and what he represents. He's also a lifelong dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and, to me, he's part of the matchday furniture. For some strange reason, he doesn't get under my skin with his foibles and often amusing clangers. Maybe it is time for him to retire if only it's to stop this constant dissing of a true Stokie legend. I'm sure he'd always be welcome as a guest whenever he feels he wants to pass on a bit of his past history to most of the mere mortals that listen to RS... and that includes me. So what comes after? To be honest, nothing less than another Ivan Gaskell would do for me. Second best would be Lee Blakeman. I like the lad and he's also a Stokie, and he originally comes from Neck End. OS. I completely agree with you about Nige , Mick. I’m abroad this week so had to watch the stream and find his familiar voice and foibles quite reassuring. I hope he carries on for ever. I don’t mind the odd mistake , particularly if I can see for myself anyway. I think the summariser should be a football pro., although that in itself doesn’t guarantee competence !
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2022 12:18:36 GMT
John Acres' personal life is changing and he's playing lesser roles for RS these days. I don't blame him one bit for that and wish him well wherever he goes. I don't get the anger against Ange. She's not afraid to say we're crap when we are and she knows her nogger even though she was *only* a World Champion in another sport - Squash. But most of all she's a dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and sometimes she lets rip but without the sort of bad language I would use. Nige is just Nige and I love him to bits for what he is and what he represents. He's also a lifelong dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and, to me, he's part of the matchday furniture. For some strange reason, he doesn't get under my skin with his foibles and often amusing clangers. Maybe it is time for him to retire if only it's to stop this constant dissing of a true Stokie legend. I'm sure he'd always be welcome as a guest whenever he feels he wants to pass on a bit of his past history to most of the mere mortals that listen to RS... and that includes me. So what comes after? To be honest, nothing less than another Ivan Gaskell would do for me. Second best would be Lee Blakeman. I like the lad and he's also a Stokie, and he originally comes from Neck End. OS. I completely agree with you about Nige , Mick. I’m abroad this week so had to watch the stream and find his familiar voice and foibles quite reassuring. I hope he carries on for ever. I don’t mind the odd mistake , particularly if I can see for myself anyway. I think the summariser should be a football pro., although that in itself doesn’t guarantee competence ! Odd mistake 🤣🤣
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Post by a on Apr 6, 2022 12:19:43 GMT
John Acres' personal life is changing and he's playing lesser roles for RS these days. I don't blame him one bit for that and wish him well wherever he goes. I don't get the anger against Ange. She's not afraid to say we're crap when we are and she knows her nogger even though she was *only* a World Champion in another sport - Squash. But most of all she's a dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and sometimes she lets rip but without the sort of bad language I would use. Nige is just Nige and I love him to bits for what he is and what he represents. He's also a lifelong dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and, to me, he's part of the matchday furniture. For some strange reason, he doesn't get under my skin with his foibles and often amusing clangers. Maybe it is time for him to retire if only it's to stop this constant dissing of a true Stokie legend. I'm sure he'd always be welcome as a guest whenever he feels he wants to pass on a bit of his past history to most of the mere mortals that listen to RS... and that includes me. So what comes after? To be honest, nothing less than another Ivan Gaskell would do for me. Second best would be Lee Blakeman. I like the lad and he's also a Stokie, and he originally comes from Neck End. OS. I completely agree with you about Nige , Mick. I’m abroad this week so had to watch the stream and find his familiar voice and foibles quite reassuring. I hope he carries on for ever. I don’t mind the odd mistake , particularly if I can see for myself anyway. I think the summariser should be a football pro., although that in itself doesn’t guarantee competence ! I think a big part of the problem is that “the odd mistake” is fast becoming far too regular and is confusing things.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 6, 2022 12:22:23 GMT
John Acres' personal life is changing and he's playing lesser roles for RS these days. I don't blame him one bit for that and wish him well wherever he goes. I don't get the anger against Ange. She's not afraid to say we're crap when we are and she knows her nogger even though she was *only* a World Champion in another sport - Squash. But most of all she's a dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and sometimes she lets rip but without the sort of bad language I would use. Nige is just Nige and I love him to bits for what he is and what he represents. He's also a lifelong dyed-in-the-wool Stokie and, to me, he's part of the matchday furniture. For some strange reason, he doesn't get under my skin with his foibles and often amusing clangers. Maybe it is time for him to retire if only it's to stop this constant dissing of a true Stokie legend. I'm sure he'd always be welcome as a guest whenever he feels he wants to pass on a bit of his past history to most of the mere mortals that listen to RS... and that includes me. So what comes after? To be honest, nothing less than another Ivan Gaskell would do for me. Second best would be Lee Blakeman. I like the lad and he's also a Stokie, and he originally comes from Neck End. OS. I completely agree with you about Nige , Mick. I’m abroad this week so had to watch the stream and find his familiar voice and foibles quite reassuring. I hope he carries on for ever. I don’t mind the odd mistake , particularly if I can see for myself anyway. I think the summariser should be a football pro., although that in itself doesn’t guarantee competence ! I'm kind of with you on this and one thing I think perhaps doesn't help Nige is that his radio commentary is being used for TV coverage. Lots of people of watching on Streams with Nige's commentary so whilst they can see what is happening on a screen with replays, Nige does have that luxury. The commentary over TV coverage has done him no favours at all in many respects.
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Post by callas12 on Apr 6, 2022 14:17:41 GMT
I completely agree with you about Nige , Mick. I’m abroad this week so had to watch the stream and find his familiar voice and foibles quite reassuring. I hope he carries on for ever. I don’t mind the odd mistake , particularly if I can see for myself anyway. I think the summariser should be a football pro., although that in itself doesn’t guarantee competence ! I'm kind of with you on this and one thing I think perhaps doesn't help Nige is that his radio commentary is being used for TV coverage. Lots of people of watching on Streams with Nige's commentary so whilst they can see what is happening on a screen with replays, Nige does have that luxury. The commentary over TV coverage has done him no favours at all in many respects. Totally agree, TV commentary/punditry is very different to solely doing radio commentary. Radio commentary does allow you more leway and perhaps a few more inaccuracies to some degree do naturally creep in. But when radio commentary is being used for TV overlays it's kind of easier to pick up on errors somewhat and perhaps in hindsight abit more slack should be given on occasions. Watching something live on TV with the aid of a monitor is different to being sat in the stands watching something from a distance without the benefit of replays and the like. I can honestly say as im sure most can that there's been occasions where being sat in the ground on a home match we've seen things differently or not involving who we thought it was involved. From my location in the family stand me and the people around me have found it difficult to call out the correct players on occasions, it can be quite comical sometimes. Sometimes players have been called who arent even on the pitch! Trying to decipher who is stripping off to come on is always a strain the eyes and guess moment! Ben Wilmot having his haircut caused a nightmare to begin with! From our seating position it's wasnt instantly clear if Wilmot was Jagielka or Tyman on defending situations! Add the low sun or poor weather conditions and it often becomes a guessing game!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 6, 2022 15:40:13 GMT
I'm kind of with you on this and one thing I think perhaps doesn't help Nige is that his radio commentary is being used for TV coverage. Lots of people of watching on Streams with Nige's commentary so whilst they can see what is happening on a screen with replays, Nige does have that luxury. The commentary over TV coverage has done him no favours at all in many respects. Totally agree, TV commentary/punditry is very different to solely doing radio commentary. Radio commentary does allow you more leway and perhaps a few more inaccuracies to some degree do naturally creep in. But when radio commentary is being used for TV overlays it's kind of easier to pick up on errors somewhat and perhaps in hindsight abit more slack should be given on occasions. Watching something live on TV with the aid of a monitor is different to being sat in the stands watching something from a distance without the benefit of replays and the like. I can honestly say as im sure most can that there's been occasions where being sat in the ground on a home match we've seen things differently or not involving who we thought it was involved. From my location in the family stand me and the people around me have found it difficult to call out the correct players on occasions, it can be quite comical sometimes. Sometimes players have been called who arent even on the pitch! Trying to decipher who is stripping off to come on is always a strain the eyes and guess moment! Ben Wilmot having his haircut caused a nightmare to begin with! From our seating position it's wasnt instantly clear if Wilmot was Jagielka or Tyman on defending situations! Add the low sun or poor weather conditions and it often becomes a guessing game! So why can’t Stoke City provide their own commentary team like other clubs seem to do so well instead of using Radio Stoke?No doubt it’ll be a cost issue but surely it would be of a better standard🤔
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Post by farnborostokie63 on Apr 6, 2022 16:12:04 GMT
Nigel Johnson is doing a job he loves, but Radio Stoke shouldn't be letting a man who I think is in his eighties do a full 90 minute night match away commentary. Of course he is going to make mistakes, wouldn't you at his age. They should have the commentators in place for each match. I think NJ is much better when he only does half match commentary.
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 6, 2022 19:45:09 GMT
I completely agree with you about Nige , Mick. I’m abroad this week so had to watch the stream and find his familiar voice and foibles quite reassuring. I hope he carries on for ever. I don’t mind the odd mistake , particularly if I can see for myself anyway. I think the summariser should be a football pro., although that in itself doesn’t guarantee competence ! I'm kind of with you on this and one thing I think perhaps doesn't help Nige is that his radio commentary is being used for TV coverage. Lots of people of watching on Streams with Nige's commentary so whilst they can see what is happening on a screen with replays, Nige does have that luxury. The commentary over TV coverage has done him no favours at all in many respects. This. Nige is a radio man and not a tv presenter. I wasn't aware that he was the tv presenter because I always listen to the wireless, which, I think, is far more exciting. But telling me that makes me understand why people are having a go at him. Nige's commentary always paints a picture in my mind of how the game is going, which is his real forte, but if it's on tv then you don't need that picture painting. OS.
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 6, 2022 21:19:35 GMT
I'm kind of with you on this and one thing I think perhaps doesn't help Nige is that his radio commentary is being used for TV coverage. Lots of people of watching on Streams with Nige's commentary so whilst they can see what is happening on a screen with replays, Nige does have that luxury. The commentary over TV coverage has done him no favours at all in many respects. This. Nige is a radio man and not a tv presenter. I wasn't aware that he was the tv presenter because I always listen to the wireless, which, I think, is far more exciting. But telling me that makes me understand why people are having a go at him. Nige's commentary always paints a picture in my mind of how the game is going, which is his real forte, but if it's on tv then you don't need that picture painting. OS. No one should be doing a job for 53 years - it's blocking the chances for someone else. And the fact the summarisers last played for us in the 1970s shows how tired the whole thing has got. It would be the equivalent of having players from the 1920s commenting on them playing.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Apr 8, 2022 12:27:36 GMT
I'm kind of with you on this and one thing I think perhaps doesn't help Nige is that his radio commentary is being used for TV coverage. Lots of people of watching on Streams with Nige's commentary so whilst they can see what is happening on a screen with replays, Nige does have that luxury. The commentary over TV coverage has done him no favours at all in many respects. This. Nige is a radio man and not a tv presenter. I wasn't aware that he was the tv presenter because I always listen to the wireless, which, I think, is far more exciting. But telling me that makes me understand why people are having a go at him. Nige's commentary always paints a picture in my mind of how the game is going, which is his real forte, but if it's on tv then you don't need that picture painting. OS. ..also - in fairness to NJ, it's the club's (?) decision to use Radio Stoke as the commentary for iFollow. And they're not unique in taking the commentary from local radio - Cardiff the other week did the same. iFollow is basically the EFL outsourcing the filming and "broadcast" of their games and as such, it's down to clubs to sort out what source they take commentary from. If Signal 2 was still around, that would be an option - but - as has been pointed out, commentary for radio is different from commentary for TV.
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Post by dirtclod on Apr 8, 2022 14:55:35 GMT
The few times (and it's been a while) that I accessed Radio Stoke it ended up putting me off. They'll get in some beige (and usually blatantly stupid) comment regarding Stoke then immediately start talking about Crewe or Vale.
But nothing against Nige.
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Post by marwood on Apr 8, 2022 15:07:35 GMT
I find the 'odd tangent' and 'slight mistake' endearing too Long may he reign
Like the Rolling Stones he has a top drawer back catalogue to call upon:-
• Centre cirtle • Inswinger • Outswinger • Inside right channel • Heads go up • Red and white Stockings • By Jingo!
But is not afraid to come up with some modern classics too:-
• Jason Brown and the Argonauts • Bong, high! • Stopped for a lick of his ice-cream on a Sunday afternoon • The whole of ‘Pen-gate’
Who else could hit the zeitgeist so far into a stellar career? It’s the equivalent of The Sex Pistols releasing God Save The Queen in 2018
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Post by stokeson on Apr 8, 2022 15:13:49 GMT
I find the 'odd tangent' and 'slight mistake' endearing too Long may he reign Like the Rolling Stones he has a top drawer back catalogue to call upon:- • Centre cirtle • Inswinger • Outswinger • Inside right channel • Heads go up • Red and white Stockings • By Jingo! But is not afraid to come up with some modern classics too:- • Jason Brown and the Argonauts • Bong, high! • Stopped for a lick of his ice-cream on a Sunday afternoon • The whole of ‘Pen-gate’ Who else could hit the zeitgeist so far into a stellar career? It’s the equivalent of The Sex Pistols releasing God Save The Queen in 2018 On tue came out with " a crackerjack shot from Sawyer." only heard my long gone dad call a shot that....
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Post by stokeson on Apr 8, 2022 15:15:08 GMT
Sorry Marwood somehow put my comment in your box?
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Post by marwood on Apr 8, 2022 17:26:20 GMT
Sorry Marwood somehow put my comment in your box? No problem it fits in quite nicely there He also described one of Bakers goals as a Whizzbang I try to use one Nige-ism in daily conversation and to be honest most of time I don’t even have to try
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 8, 2022 17:29:44 GMT
I find the 'odd tangent' and 'slight mistake' endearing too Long may he reign Like the Rolling Stones he has a top drawer back catalogue to call upon:- • Centre cirtle • Inswinger • Outswinger • Inside right channel • Heads go up • Red and white Stockings • By Jingo! But is not afraid to come up with some modern classics too:- • Jason Brown and the Argonauts • Bong, high! • Stopped for a lick of his ice-cream on a Sunday afternoon • The whole of ‘Pen-gate’ Who else could hit the zeitgeist so far into a stellar career? It’s the equivalent of The Sex Pistols releasing God Save The Queen in 2018 He’s used “(insert name here) came running in like a steam train” quite a few times this season.
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