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Post by musik on Nov 27, 2021 8:05:56 GMT
If you didn't have a mobile phone
What would be your biggest problem?
I wouldn't know if I had a visit, since the door bell system is connected to all tenants' mobile phones.
Idiotic.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 27, 2021 8:17:01 GMT
If you didn't have a mobile phone What would be your biggest problem? I wouldn't know if I had a visit, since the door bell system is connected to all tenants' mobile phones. Idiotic. Porn on the go! |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 27, 2021 8:23:27 GMT
If you didn't have a mobile phone What would be your biggest problem? I wouldn't know if I had a visit, since the door bell system is connected to all tenants' mobile phones. Idiotic. Not being able to come on here and see who is bitching about whoever or whatever whenever I was on the bog. |
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Post by thevoid on Nov 27, 2021 8:47:36 GMT
Hellu
No music, musik 😉
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Post by andystokey on Nov 27, 2021 9:00:30 GMT
I'd have no Internet at all, miles away from a connection a bit of 4g runs our entire house.
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Post by tuum on Nov 27, 2021 9:17:34 GMT
No problem at all. I could live without a mobile phone quite easily. Don't like to carry one when I am out and about. If I have to take it with me I try to stick it in the bottom of my rucksack out of the way. Somebody calls me it is highly likely that I will (a) not see or hear the call and (2) will not reply immediately. I use WhatsApp when I am sat at home but, again, I would not miss it if it was taken away from me.
I also hate the bulkiness and having to carry it around in my trouser pockets. It frequently goes without charge. If it wasn't for my Wife it would not get charged most days. She takes care of my phone maintenance.
....and finally, I hate the noise from people using phones on trains, in quiet areas etc. No one ever puts the phone to their ear anymore and talks normally. Everyone wants to shout at the screen. Whenever my wife gets on the phone to her family & friends I just close the door or, if that is not an option, then I go to another room.
The only benefit is at work I can take progress photos on site quite easily but even that has been stopped on the grounds of health and safety. [Off topic from here]Apparently, I need a spark-resistant safety phone as an ordinary mobile phone is too dangerous in an oil and gas facility. More likely the rule was introduced because they didn't want people taking unauthorized photos of the facility. Health & Safety is always a good tag to hang your hat on when you want to control people's behaviour regardless of whether something is actually dangerous or not.
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Post by franklin on Nov 27, 2021 9:32:49 GMT
It wouldn't bother me one bit I've been considering getting rid once my contract runs out anyway a complete waste of money.
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Post by danceswithclams on Nov 27, 2021 9:54:40 GMT
Paul McCartney and Wings rejected song title #7 |
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Post by musik on Nov 27, 2021 10:21:21 GMT
It wouldn't bother me one bit I've been considering getting rid once my contract runs out anyway a complete waste of money. It would be impossible to do that here. My old mother hasn't got one. She was told by her Health Clinic by letter she had to use "her mobile phone" to scan some @#$@# code when she arrives, then some other #$@$@ code, to be able to see her doctor - all patients have to, since they've got "a new system". They should call it the idiotic system. She had been to that clinic for decades but are not welcome anymore, due to the digital world. And as I wrote initially, I can't know who is at the door without a charged functioning mobile phone. Postman, deliveries, the property management service team, friends, relatives, Santa Claus. All goes through the phone. And mine is very bad now! And I'm pretty sure we can't pay our income taxes up here without a mobile phone soon either. Everything is digital. Why we aren't voting digitally already surprises me. It's very hard to travel domestically without the mobile phone in Sweden these days, since there's where the ticket lands. You have to carry the phone to be able to show it. I use a plastic card instead, which I refill. But I assume it's a matter of months before that'll be impossible to use. Trams, buses, ferrys, trains. At the shops most people use their phones these days. They use a scanner at the cashier. The step after the cards. I'm one of the last ones to carry actual physical money. I reckon they'll try to shoot me soon. |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 27, 2021 10:41:46 GMT
It wouldn't bother me one bit I've been considering getting rid once my contract runs out anyway a complete waste of money. It would be impossible to do that here. My old mother hasn't got one. She was told by her Health Clinic by letter she had to use "her mobile phone" to scan some @#$@# code when she arrives, then some other #$@$@ code, to be able to see her doctor - all patients have to, since they've got "a new system". They should call it the idiotic system. She had been to that clinic for decades but are not welcome anymore, due to the digital world. And as I wrote initially, I can't know who is at the door without a charged functioning mobile phone. Postman, deliveries, the property management service team, friends, relatives, Santa Claus. And I'm pretty sure we can't pay our income taxes up here without a mobile phone soon either. Everything is digital. Why we aren't voting digitally already surprises me. What you describe is quite correct but totally wrong. Society is becoming less inclusive rather than more inclusive. Yes we are more inclusive to those people who were shunned in the past due to race, sexual orientation, etc but we are steadily excluding a very large section of society that are not digitally literate. The pandemic has reduced the digital literacy gap and society needs to help itself, but if businesses and the authorities treated the disabled, ethic minorities, etc. like they treat those whose digital literacy is impaired, which is about 1 in 5, there would be uproar, but I'm afraid society does not care about them. Fortunately for most of them, they are not that bothered about mobile phones, laptops, etc. |
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Post by musik on Nov 27, 2021 10:47:49 GMT
It would be impossible to do that here. My old mother hasn't got one. She was told by her Health Clinic by letter she had to use "her mobile phone" to scan some @#$@# code when she arrives, then some other #$@$@ code, to be able to see her doctor - all patients have to, since they've got "a new system". They should call it the idiotic system. She had been to that clinic for decades but are not welcome anymore, due to the digital world. And as I wrote initially, I can't know who is at the door without a charged functioning mobile phone. Postman, deliveries, the property management service team, friends, relatives, Santa Claus. And I'm pretty sure we can't pay our income taxes up here without a mobile phone soon either. Everything is digital. Why we aren't voting digitally already surprises me. What you describe is quite correct but totally wrong. Society is becoming less inclusive rather than more inclusive. Yes we are more inclusive to those people who were shunned in the past due to race, sexual orientation, etc but we are steadily excluding a very large section of society that are not digitally literate. The pandemic has reduced the digital literacy gap and society needs to help itself, but if businesses and the authorities treated the disabled, ethic minorities, etc. like they treat those whose digital literacy is impaired, which is about 1 in 5, there would be uproar, but I'm afraid society does not care about them. Fortunately for most of them, they are not that bothered about mobile phones, laptops, etc. Problem is, in Sweden you have to be bothered. In fact, I don't think it would work to be outside of the mobile phone and thereby the digital world here. Those people without simply have to have someone to help them do the digital errands. |
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 27, 2021 11:08:40 GMT
I have a Sony Xperia that has a flip-out keyboard. It's ancient but it does me. Data is switched off and I use it for calls and texts only. (This stuff I do when I'm at home on my PC.) They're a brilliant invention but they can be a terrible social barrier. When I take my grandkids to college or uni, they get in and take out their phone; put their airpods in and sit there until we get to where they're going. Then it's a quick, "Ta Gramps," and I feel like I should have 333333 on the side of my old car. But at least I get to listen to Tom Waites or Sigur Ros while I'm ferrying them around.  Having said all that, I'd feel lost if I didn't have it in my pocket when I'm away from home. OS. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 27, 2021 11:25:41 GMT
My phone has replaced my laptop for all my internet needs however I can’t help but think life was better before smart phones
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Post by thevoid on Nov 27, 2021 11:39:27 GMT
My phone has replaced my laptop for all my internet needs however I can’t help but think life was better before smart phones No, life was better before social media. |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 27, 2021 11:44:35 GMT
I can remember life before television.
It was crap.
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Post by andystokey on Nov 27, 2021 11:57:11 GMT
What you describe is quite correct but totally wrong. Society is becoming less inclusive rather than more inclusive. Yes we are more inclusive to those people who were shunned in the past due to race, sexual orientation, etc but we are steadily excluding a very large section of society that are not digitally literate. The pandemic has reduced the digital literacy gap and society needs to help itself, but if businesses and the authorities treated the disabled, ethic minorities, etc. like they treat those whose digital literacy is impaired, which is about 1 in 5, there would be uproar, but I'm afraid society does not care about them. Fortunately for most of them, they are not that bothered about mobile phones, laptops, etc. Problem is, in Sweden you have to be bothered. In fact, I don't think it would work to be outside of the mobile phone and thereby the digital world here. Those people without simply have to have someone to help them do the digital errands. I think folks forget that 1.5M households in the UK have no Internet. Having lived in Sweden and on the island of Visingso I think some folk would be surprised what a lifeline the mobile network is for rural communities. Getting cable, copper or fibre is impossible for some and unaffordable for others. |
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Post by musik on Nov 27, 2021 12:27:06 GMT
Problem is, in Sweden you have to be bothered. In fact, I don't think it would work to be outside of the mobile phone and thereby the digital world here. Those people without simply have to have someone to help them do the digital errands. I think folks forget that 1.5M households in the UK have no Internet. Having lived in Sweden and on the island of Visingso I think some folk would be surprised what a lifeline the mobile network is for rural communities. Getting cable, copper or fibre is impossible for some and unaffordable for others. I still have no internet at home (apart from in the nowadays more or less useless mobile phone of mine). My employer still doesn't believe me. 🤣 |
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 27, 2021 13:05:40 GMT
I can remember life before television. It was crap. That's because you're a Tory. For us proper prols, even though we were poor and hungry, it was a brilliant time.  Our highlight of the week was listening to Quatermass on the wireless, or Dick Barton - Special Agent. Ahhh. the good old days. OS. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Nov 27, 2021 14:27:01 GMT
They have their uses, but I would have fewer problems if mobile phones didn't exist. I was annoyed this week when Seetickets changed one of my gig tickets to an e-ticket after I'd paid for a ticket to be posted, and it's the third time they've done this. I've had issues with gig 'tickets' before thanks to reliance on an app - actually 2 out of the 3 times I used said app. Thankfully I don't own a Tesla because Tesla owners worldwide were locked out of their cars recently, which I think was to do with an app.
Google Maps has been messing up my directions recently and the GPS doesn't work properly on my phone either.
History has shown that many civilisations failed when they become too reliant on technology (like the Khymer civilisation's irrigation system at Angkor), but we don't learn from history, and I foresee big problems as society becomes more reliant on tech.
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Post by musik on Nov 27, 2021 14:33:40 GMT
They have their uses, but I would have fewer problems if mobile phones didn't exist. I was annoyed this week when Seetickets changed one of my gig tickets to an e-ticket after I'd paid for a ticket to be posted, and it's the third time they've done this. I've had issues with gig 'tickets' before thanks to reliance on an app - actually 2 out of the 3 times I used said app. Thankfully I don't own a Tesla because Tesla owners worldwide were locked out of their cars recently, which I think was to do with an app. Google Maps has been messing up my directions recently and the GPS doesn't work properly on my phone either. History has shown that many civilisations failed when they become too reliant on technology (like the Khymer civilisation's irrigation system at Angkor), but we don't learn from history, and I foresee big problems as society becomes more reliant on tech. One recent example here is when the food chain Coop was hacked. People couldn't buy food! Even though the shelves were filled and the staff was ready to do their job. Frightening! |
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Post by tuum on Nov 27, 2021 14:49:48 GMT
It wouldn't bother me one bit I've been considering getting rid once my contract runs out anyway a complete waste of money. I will be with you in the queue! It's fucking great having no friends |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Nov 27, 2021 14:54:06 GMT
They have their uses, but I would have fewer problems if mobile phones didn't exist. I was annoyed this week when Seetickets changed one of my gig tickets to an e-ticket after I'd paid for a ticket to be posted, and it's the third time they've done this. I've had issues with gig 'tickets' before thanks to reliance on an app - actually 2 out of the 3 times I used said app. Thankfully I don't own a Tesla because Tesla owners worldwide were locked out of their cars recently, which I think was to do with an app. Google Maps has been messing up my directions recently and the GPS doesn't work properly on my phone either. History has shown that many civilisations failed when they become too reliant on technology (like the Khymer civilisation's irrigation system at Angkor), but we don't learn from history, and I foresee big problems as society becomes more reliant on tech. One recent example here is when the food chain Coop was hacked. People couldn't buy food! Even though the shelves were filled and the staff was ready to do their job. Frightening! I was at a petrol station 2-3 years ago when the payment network went down, and no one could pay for their petrol. |
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Nov 27, 2021 15:01:10 GMT
...that would mean the year would be pre-2000 or so and more people would likely be much nicer and happier.
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Post by chuffedstokie on Nov 28, 2021 14:21:55 GMT
Haven't got a landline so the mobile is a necessity.
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