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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 18, 2022 10:43:30 GMT
Quite reliable I think. Been around for years covering the Midlands Also a Norwich fan, so may have come from the Farke end? Interesting, especially if he's coming in under O'Neill. Can imagine the Christmas party will be a bit awkward. "Andy, can you ask Michael to pass me the Salt please?" "Michael, can you pass Daniel the salt please?" "Andy, tell him he can get the salt himself!" Yeah - who knows if there's anything in any of it. Sounds like he's heard a little whisper, then built something around it, with a bit of fluff about MON potentially staying on (can't see that for a minute surely?) Still interesting it's the first article about a potential change with a proper byline and actual name linked.
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Post by telfordstokie on Mar 18, 2022 10:45:12 GMT
Let’s worry about avoiding relegation from the Premier League if and when we ever get promoted. No one has managed to get us even top half yet since we returned to the Championship so I’d be delighted with a bloke with a brilliant track record in this division.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 18, 2022 10:45:23 GMT
It’s a no thanks from me. Yes he got Norwich promoted twice but after they got a chasing in the Premier League at the first time of asking, he did exactly the same thing again the second time and lost his job because of it. Because getting out of this league is so easy….
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Mar 18, 2022 10:45:42 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 18, 2022 10:46:19 GMT
How reliable is Nursey? I honestly can't remember? He was in Blackadder wasn’t he?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2022 10:47:10 GMT
How reliable is Nursey? I honestly can't remember? Quite reliable I think. Been around for years covering the Midlands Also a Norwich fan, so may have come from the Farke end? Surely more likely that they’ve taken O’Neill interview, browsed some stoke forums and come up with the story
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 18, 2022 10:47:45 GMT
It’s a no thanks from me. Yes he got Norwich promoted twice but after they got a chasing in the Premier League at the first time of asking, he did exactly the same thing again the second time and lost his job because of it. Because getting out of this league is so easy…. And if it were to be true AND he did get us up we’d have more dosh to spend to try and keep us up than Norwich ever did.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 18, 2022 10:48:33 GMT
Quite reliable I think. Been around for years covering the Midlands Also a Norwich fan, so may have come from the Farke end? Surely more likely that they’ve taken O’Neill interview, browsed some stoke forums and come up with the story This kind of thing usually comes from the potential appointee's end, would imagine his agent has either heard something or is trying to create some interest.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 18, 2022 10:49:20 GMT
Interesting, especially if he's coming in under O'Neill. Can imagine the Christmas party will be a bit awkward. "Andy, can you ask Michael to pass me the Salt please?" "Michael, can you pass Daniel the salt please?" "Andy, tell him he can get the salt himself!" Yeah - who knows if there's anything in any of it. Sounds like he's heard a little whisper, then built something around it, with a bit of fluff about MON potentially staying on (can't see that for a minute surely?) Still interesting it's the first article about a potential change with a proper byline and actual name linked. Not sure where I stand on that but MON has always said he sees his future in the game in a more senior role, and he's very selective about working for local owners - as he said when he joined here. In today's game that is an exceptionally limited market at Championship level and above. I'd say we were one of only very few left without properly checking?
Totally unsure on Farke too. He had a very specific setup at Norwich with Stuart Webber - who repeated the trick that he did at Huddersfield with Wagner - in that proper foundations and recruitment structures were set in place with Farke left only to coach the team, with a pretty much open market to the best that Bundesliga II could offer. Not quite sure where we are down that path but sounds miles off?
On Webber, could it be a double deal? Noticed he only signed a 12 month rolling contract last year, to be reviewed each summer. Are they going in a different direction with Smith and will Webber become available?
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Post by biglad180 on Mar 18, 2022 10:50:29 GMT
Rafa, is out of work now surely he as made is money by now, maybe a new challange, and close to liverpool
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Post by chuckrocky on Mar 18, 2022 10:52:42 GMT
Let’s worry about avoiding relegation from the Premier League if and when we ever get promoted. No one has managed to get us even top half yet since we returned to the Championship so I’d be delighted with a bloke with a brilliant track record in this division. It’s absolutely mental that we have fans turning their noses up at a manger because he might not be able to keep us in the Premier League if we were promoted.
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Post by drfishy on Mar 18, 2022 10:55:55 GMT
I think MON should probably go but honestly don't know who we should go for. A couple of good results(I know that feels a long way off at the moment) and things could change. I can see why people like the idea of Farke but weren't the Norwich fans calling for his sacking during his first season - and he managed to turn it around the following season.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 18, 2022 10:59:07 GMT
This weekend could be very interesting indeed now
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Post by biglad180 on Mar 18, 2022 11:01:13 GMT
Farke when at Norwich is team was to good for the championship but not good enough for the premier,just as west brom was fulham are the same now,these managers did not rebuild teams when relegated they were just better than the rest of the shit in the championship,are they really good managers?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 18, 2022 11:01:37 GMT
Surely more likely that they’ve taken O’Neill interview, browsed some stoke forums and come up with the story This kind of thing usually comes from the potential appointee's end, would imagine his agent has either heard something or is trying to create some interest. I’m not in the Farke camp. Would rather Big Sam than him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 18, 2022 11:03:44 GMT
This kind of thing usually comes from the potential appointee's end, would imagine his agent has either heard something or is trying to create some interest. I’m not in the Farke camp. Would rather Big Sam than him. I think he did well at Norwich but the circumstances here would be completely different to the ones he had there. He's a head coach where we still want to appoint an all-powerful emperor. A lot of the good stuff that they did there (signing the likes of Buendia/Pukki etc) wasn't masterminded by him, he was just part of it. He'd be expected to do the whole enchilada for us.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 18, 2022 11:05:25 GMT
Farke when at Norwich is team was to good for the championship but not good enough for the premier,just as west brom was fulham are the same now,these managers did not rebuild teams when relegated they were just better than the rest of the shit in the championship,are they really good managers? If it was that easy then anyone who gets relegated would effortlessly pop straight back up wouldn't they? Remind me who we're playing tomorrow, Spurs is it? Maybe Liverpool?
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Post by Fred Merger on Mar 18, 2022 11:06:52 GMT
The board haven't sacked him yet ,but it's coming. Most likely about 5 o clock tomorrow evening after Rowett leaves with 3 more points. They must be looking surely. Frankly pretty much anybody would get better results with this squad at the moment.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 18, 2022 11:13:22 GMT
Let’s worry about avoiding relegation from the Premier League if and when we ever get promoted. No one has managed to get us even top half yet since we returned to the Championship so I’d be delighted with a bloke with a brilliant track record in this division. It’s absolutely mental that we have fans turning their noses up at a manger because he might not be able to keep us in the Premier League if we were promoted. Not to mention it'd be different circumstances here. I also like to think he will have learned from those two relegations and be better prepared for it if there's a next time. Not that I have any idea if Farke would be successful here or is the right person for the job. I still hope O'Neill turns things around.
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Post by northernstokie on Mar 18, 2022 11:15:23 GMT
It’s a no thanks from me. Yes he got Norwich promoted twice but after they got a chasing in the Premier League at the first time of asking, he did exactly the same thing again the second time and lost his job because of it. Didnt get any money to spend on promotion though. According to a Norwich fan I know they won't spend any money.
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Post by lordb on Mar 18, 2022 11:24:48 GMT
That would make a lot of sense Farke is a head coach not a manager
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Post by cvillestokie on Mar 18, 2022 11:29:05 GMT
That would make a lot of sense Farke is a head coach not a manager Just because he has a Masters in something, it doesn't mean he's going to be good at it. A lot of my colleagues are crap at science despite having PhD's or PharmD's. I actually like MON, I just now want him gone. If we are going to go for someone in a crucial role above the manager can we at least have the ambition to try and bring someone in who has previously been successful in that role instead?
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Post by biglad180 on Mar 18, 2022 11:47:36 GMT
Farke when at Norwich is team was to good for the championship but not good enough for the premier,just as west brom was fulham are the same now,these managers did not rebuild teams when relegated they were just better than the rest of the shit in the championship,are they really good managers? If it was that easy then anyone who gets relegated would effortlessly pop straight back up wouldn't they? Remind me who we're playing tomorrow, Spurs is it? Maybe Liverpool? not saying its easy to go straight back up but it helps if you have a better team than the rest,and Norwich at the time did, Just as Fulham have this season,
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Post by RAF on Mar 18, 2022 11:50:16 GMT
If it was that easy then anyone who gets relegated would effortlessly pop straight back up wouldn't they? Remind me who we're playing tomorrow, Spurs is it? Maybe Liverpool? not saying its easy to go straight back up but it helps if you have a better team than the rest,and Norwich at the time did, Just as Fulham have this season, Pukki and Mitrovic were and are the difference. We don't have anyone that is capable of scoring that many goals. Maybe Tyrese before his injury. H
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Post by march4 on Mar 18, 2022 11:55:08 GMT
If this is the plan, it has a little flaw.
Michael O’Neill doesn’t have the experience for the job suggested. We have been down this road before with him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 18, 2022 11:55:51 GMT
If it was that easy then anyone who gets relegated would effortlessly pop straight back up wouldn't they? Remind me who we're playing tomorrow, Spurs is it? Maybe Liverpool? not saying its easy to go straight back up but it helps if you have a better team than the rest,and Norwich at the time did, Just as Fulham have this season, They'd built that better team themselves for absolute peanuts in the first place though, surely that counts for something?
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Post by ibby on Mar 18, 2022 11:57:27 GMT
Ok manager but would not be my first choice.
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Post by biglad180 on Mar 18, 2022 11:59:00 GMT
not saying its easy to go straight back up but it helps if you have a better team than the rest,and Norwich at the time did, Just as Fulham have this season, Pukki and Mitrovic were and are the difference. We don't havd anyone that is capable of scoring that many goals. Maybe Tyrese before his injury. H Mitrovic and pukki are top championship players no doubt about it Mitrovic could not get in fulhams relegation team last season though,be interesting to see how many goals he bags next season, i am not on here to argue with anyone, after all we all want whats best for stoke city
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 18, 2022 11:59:03 GMT
This kind of thing usually comes from the potential appointee's end, would imagine his agent has either heard something or is trying to create some interest. I’m not in the Farke camp. Would rather Big Sam than him. I have to say I’m not convinced either,he’s been totally out of his depth in the Prem on a couple of occasions and I think Webber is the main man at Norwich.Having said that Norwich’s recruitment last summer was appalling and Webber is getting a lot of shit off supporters this season
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 18, 2022 12:07:12 GMT
I’m not in the Farke camp. Would rather Big Sam than him. I have to say I’m not convinced either,he’s been totally out of his depth in the Prem on a couple of occasions and I think Webber is the main man at Norwich.Having said that Norwich’s recruitment last summer was appalling and Webber is getting a lot of shit off supporters this season Why does anyone give a shit what he's like in the Prem though? There are pertinent questions about whether he's a good fit or not or how much of their success he can be credited with, but whether a manager can cut it in the Prem or not really isn't something we should be worrying about.
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