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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 6, 2021 17:04:09 GMT
Bursik 8 Souttar 7 Batth 7 Østigård 7 Smith 7 Tymon 6 Allen 8 Thompson 8 MOM Sawyers 7 Brown 7 Fletcher 7 Subs; Vrancic 6 Wilmot 7 Gouranga.  |
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Post by thepottypotter on Nov 6, 2021 17:12:28 GMT
Bursik 8
Souttar 7
Batth 7
Østigård 7
Smith 6
Tymon 7
Allen 5 (a couple of very sloppy/loose passes that expected a lot of Bursik or the other player)
Thompson 8 MOTM
Sawyers 7
Brown 7.5
Fletcher 7
Subs;
Vrancic 6.5
Wilmot 7
Surridge N/A - because he only came on during the 84th minute
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 6, 2021 17:16:29 GMT
Bursik 7
Souttar 7
Batth 7
Østigård 7
Smith 7
Tymon 6
Allen 6
Thompson 8 motm
Sawyers 7
Brown 7
Fletcher 7
Subs;
Vrancic 7
Wilmot 7
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Post by kevkj on Nov 6, 2021 17:17:13 GMT
Bursik 8
Souttar 7
Batth 7
Østigård 7
Smith 5
Tymon 5
Allen 8
Thompson 8
Sawyers 7
Brown 7
Fletcher 7
Subs;
Vrancic 6
Wilmot 7
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Post by liathroid on Nov 6, 2021 17:17:55 GMT
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 6, 2021 17:20:11 GMT
8/8/8 for the midfielders!? I must be missing something. Thought Thompson was clearly the best today, then Sawyers then Allen. |
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 6, 2021 17:21:49 GMT
8/8/8 for the midfielders!? I must be missing something. Thought Thompson was clearly the best today, then Sawyers then Allen. How Allen could get an 8 for chicken running and giving them the ball is baffling to say the least. Thompson and Sawyers were much better. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 6, 2021 17:27:39 GMT
8/8/8 for the midfielders!? I must be missing something. Thought Thompson was clearly the best today, then Sawyers then Allen. How Allen could get an 8 for chicken running and giving them the ball is baffling to say the least. Thompson and Sawyers were much better. Allen's job is tough - if you do it well you don't really stand out. I wonder if the pros see something I'm missing, because he's looked poor to me in a lot of games. |
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 6, 2021 17:34:44 GMT
How Allen could get an 8 for chicken running and giving them the ball is baffling to say the least. Thompson and Sawyers were much better. Allen's job is tough - if you do it well you don't really stand out. I wonder if the pros see something I'm missing, because he's looked poor to me in a lot of games. He worked a lot no doubt, but he also works against us often losing possession putting bursik and the backline in trouble each week. He's his own worst enemy because of his poor passing and first touch. He has been poor and is better suited away for a scrappy away match but who else do we have that can help Thompson? Its more on the management to get a CDM in January than it is his play that he's selected. Giving him an 8 is just laughable for doing the basics of a midfielder. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Nov 6, 2021 17:36:03 GMT
Bursik 7
Souttar 7
Batth 7 solid.
Østigård 7
Smith 6
Tymon 6
Allen 7
Thompson 8 *MOTM just edges it before Brown.
Sawyers 7
Brown 8 Scored the winning goal, so was the most important player on the pitch.
Fletcher 6
Subs;
Vrancic 7
Wilmot 7
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 6, 2021 17:39:44 GMT
Allen's job is tough - if you do it well you don't really stand out. I wonder if the pros see something I'm missing, because he's looked poor to me in a lot of games. He worked a lot no doubt, but he also works against us often losing possession putting bursik and the backline in trouble each week. He's his own worst enemy because of his poor passing and first touch. He has been poor and is better suited away for a scrappy away match but who else do we have that can help Thompson? Its more on the management to get a CDM in January than it is his play that he's selected. Giving him an 8 is just laughable for doing the basics of a midfielder. I basically agree with you mate! I just wonder if he's doing something amazing positionally or similar that I don't understand, since people who should know better than me seem to rate him better than I do. A CDM can play very well and many fans won't realise it, but you and I both notice how he seems to keep putting us under pressure. |
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Post by tejstokie on Nov 6, 2021 17:45:19 GMT
He worked a lot no doubt, but he also works against us often losing possession putting bursik and the backline in trouble each week. He's his own worst enemy because of his poor passing and first touch. He has been poor and is better suited away for a scrappy away match but who else do we have that can help Thompson? Its more on the management to get a CDM in January than it is his play that he's selected. Giving him an 8 is just laughable for doing the basics of a midfielder. I basically agree with you mate! I just wonder if he's doing something amazing positionally or similar that I don't understand, since people who should know better than me seem to rate him better than I do. A CDM can play very well and many fans won't realise it, but you and I both notice how he seems to keep putting us under pressure. He's always been over hyped and is selected no matter what because we don't have another option. His passing was bang average today 73% for 37 passes according to the BBC his defensive tackles were normal also, he had 1 clearance and 3 interceptions. Pretty standard for a midfielder an you'd expect a 7 average rating but he's "Joe Allen" and gets an 8 per usual and the several lost passes, errant first touches and losing the ball to give the opposition chances all match just disappear. |
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Post by stokesupporter on Nov 6, 2021 17:55:19 GMT
And forgot to mention that Lutons floodlights get a rating 3.
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Post by robwahlmann on Nov 6, 2021 17:57:28 GMT
7 for all of them from me! A very good team effort!  |
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Post by thepottypotter on Nov 6, 2021 18:03:09 GMT
And forgot to mention that Lutons floodlights get a rating 3.  |
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Post by boniek on Nov 6, 2021 18:08:10 GMT
Bursik 6
Smith 6
Ostigard 6 - One point deducted for very poor decision making leading up to their best chance. Otherwise very solid.
Souttar 7
Baath 7
Tymon 6
Sawyers 8 motm
Allen 7
Thompson 7
Brown 6
Fletcher 7
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Vrancic 6
Wilmot 7
Surridge N/A
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Post by s7oke on Nov 6, 2021 18:11:05 GMT
I thought sawyers was mediocre to be fair wandering around the pitch watching the ball go past him
Did he actually make a tackle ?
And he gets caught in possession an awful lot
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 6, 2021 18:20:34 GMT
Thompson was superb today.
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Post by onepara on Nov 6, 2021 21:06:00 GMT
People who don't rate Allen didn't rate Whelan, either. Watch him through a game, how he breaks up the opposition play, how much ground he covers. How he is often the player who clears the ball from our area when we're under pressure. Doing a lot of the 'ugly' work that the rest don't get involved in. He works hard for the team in every game. Massively under-rated, & is missed when he doesn't play.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2021 21:38:37 GMT
Bursik 8 Souttar 7 Batth 7 Østigård 7 Smith 7 Tymon 6 Allen 8 Thompson 8 MOM Sawyers 7 Brown 7 Fletcher 7 Subs; Vrancic 6 Wilmot 7 Gouranga. Did Bursik make a save barring the one effort they had in the first half? An 8 seems odd. 6’s all around for me apart from Thompson and Brown who get a 7 and 7.5 respectively. We were opened up a couple too many times for any of the defenders to get high grades in my opinion. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Nov 7, 2021 0:26:58 GMT
People who don't rate Allen didn't rate Whelan, either. Watch him through a game, how he breaks up the opposition play, how much ground he covers. How he is often the player who clears the ball from our area when we're under pressure. Doing a lot of the 'ugly' work that the rest don't get involved in. He works hard for the team in every game. Massively under-rated, & is missed when he doesn't play. Yes. But he makes “a” bad pass |
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Post by mtrstudent on Nov 7, 2021 5:36:07 GMT
People who don't rate Allen didn't rate Whelan, either. Watch him through a game, how he breaks up the opposition play, how much ground he covers. How he is often the player who clears the ball from our area when we're under pressure. Doing a lot of the 'ugly' work that the rest don't get involved in. He works hard for the team in every game. Massively under-rated, & is missed when he doesn't play. I really don't see him having put in good performances for a while now, but a lot of folk say stuff like you do. I rated Whelan so it's not like I can't appreciate someone doing the mucking out in midfield  Will try to pay extra attention next game to see what I've been missing. |
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Post by armitage21 on Nov 7, 2021 13:40:03 GMT
Sevens all round bar 7.5 for Thommo, Bursic and Brown, and 6.5 for Tymon.
(Admittedly listened on the radio no pictures)
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 7, 2021 14:06:36 GMT
Bursik 7
Souttar 7
Batth 7
Østigård 7
Smith 6
Tymon 5
Allen 7
Thompson 7
Sawyers 7
Brown 7
Fletcher 6
Subs
Vrancic 7
Wilmot 6
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 7, 2021 16:24:32 GMT
And forgot to mention that Lutons floodlights get a rating 3. That high? I'd say minus three, there's more lighting in the pissing odeon. |
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Post by AlliG on Nov 7, 2021 21:03:03 GMT
And forgot to mention that Lutons floodlights get a rating 3. That high? I'd say minus three, there's more lighting in the pissing odeon. I still have a couple of very old reference books that use "Candlepower" as a measure of luminous intensity. Luton must be the only football club in the World to still use actual candles in their floodlights. |
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