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Tyrese
Nov 4, 2021 21:08:20 GMT
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Post by a on Nov 4, 2021 21:08:20 GMT
Someone had mentioned that on another thread 🤦🏻♂️ I mentioned a loan. Not necessarily to a league 1 club, he could go anywhere abroad, or another league domestically (within the UK, I guess there is only Scotland really), either way I don't see how 20 minutes and not moving much is better than 2x 90 a week in the u23s???? How is that possible? I know when I need fitness I need to train more, no matter how it is, and play matches at any level. If he's ready he's banging them in for u23s. Otherwise he's not ready. Pretty much this.
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Tyrese
Nov 4, 2021 21:11:43 GMT
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Post by march4 on Nov 4, 2021 21:11:43 GMT
Give the lad time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2021 21:24:55 GMT
How’s he been rushed? He was back training in April/May. It’s been 5/6 months from him starting back running to getting on the pitch in the Championship. I recall you saying he should be starting now rather than playing under 23s a little while back. Clearly on last nights showing he’s not match fit. So either he’s been rushed back or he’s not taken getting back for seriously… wonder which. This post makes absolutely no sense.
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Tyrese
Nov 4, 2021 21:46:07 GMT
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Post by a on Nov 4, 2021 21:46:07 GMT
I recall you saying he should be starting now rather than playing under 23s a little while back. Clearly on last nights showing he’s not match fit. So either he’s been rushed back or he’s not taken getting back for seriously… wonder which. This post makes absolutely no sense. I’ll elaborate. He’s either rushed back and not fit, or he’s been given ample time and hasn’t taken it seriously and is unfit. According to you recently he should be starting for the team, and if he’s playing u23 then he must be ready. It makes mostly sense but autocorrect messed a bit up, you perhaps need to read it slowly.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Nov 4, 2021 21:46:55 GMT
I recall you saying he should be starting now rather than playing under 23s a little while back. Clearly on last nights showing he’s not match fit. So either he’s been rushed back or he’s not taken getting back for seriously… wonder which. This post makes absolutely no sense. I don't get the whole confusion some have in general mate re: slowly introducing him to get him match/game fit (delete as applicable) by playing him for 20-30 mins and realising that patience will be required anyway We'd all agree he wasn't great last night but he'll have not only have improved his match/game fitness slightly (a future benefit for the team), but he/the coaches/the management will all have learned far more about what he needs to do to get back to his best than anyone would have by slinging him the u23s (a benefit for the team). If only loads of people had already pointed out that u23s don't have the intensity needed to improve his match/game fitness or for him to see exactly the level he needs to get back to. There are many,many reasons why clubs all over the world do this with their major players and have done for decades now....but nope, on here we have "sling him into what is basically a kick around for him for a few weeks, that'll sort it".
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 4, 2021 21:48:19 GMT
This post makes absolutely no sense. I don't get the whole confusion some have in general mate re: slowly introducing him to get him match/game fit (delete as applicable) by playing him for 20-30 mins anyway. We'd all agree he wasn't great last night but he'll have not only have improved his match/game fitness slightly (a future benefit for the team), but he/the coaches/the management will all have learned far more about what he needs to do to get back to his best than anyone would have by slinging him the u23s (a benefit for the team). If only loads of people had already pointed out that u23s don't have the intensity needed to improve his match/game fitness or for him to see exactly the level he needs to get back to. There are many,many reasons why clubs all over the world do this with their major players and have done for decades now....but nope, on here we have "sling him into what is basically a kick around for him for a few weeks, that'll sort it". It’s very strange and almost like they’ve never seen a player come back from injury before. I don’t get it. But each of their own I guess.
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Tyrese
Nov 4, 2021 21:49:05 GMT
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Post by a on Nov 4, 2021 21:49:05 GMT
This post makes absolutely no sense. I don't get the whole confusion some have in general mate re: slowly introducing him to get him match/game fit (delete as applicable) by playing him for 20-30 mins anyway. We'd all agree he wasn't great last night but he'll have not only have improved his match/game fitness slightly (a future benefit for the team), but he/the coaches/the management will all have learned far more about what he needs to do to get back to his best than anyone would have by slinging him the u23s (a benefit for the team). If only loads of people had already pointed out that u23s don't have the intensity needed to improve his match/game fitness or for him to see exactly the level he needs to get back to. There are many,many reasons why clubs all over the world do this with their major players and have done for decades now....but nope, on here we have "sling him into what is basically a kick around for him for a few weeks, that'll sort it". Yet Bayern himself has previously slated O’Neill for not using him, using the fact he’s been playing u23s as evidence that he’s ready…. 😂
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Tyrese
Nov 5, 2021 11:53:54 GMT
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Post by outspaced on Nov 5, 2021 11:53:54 GMT
No two players are the same after a serious injury though are they? Alan Shearer had three bad ones and came back stronger. Daniel Sturridge though for example had legs like champagne flutes. If Tyrese takes after his old man though he'll be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2021 12:32:46 GMT
Alan shearer is a good example, of a player realising ,he has to come back from a bad injury , as a different player
Before his first bad injury , he was quick and skilful ,but even after one serious injury , he had to change his game , play a different way .
Ty might have to come back , a different Ty Campbell , to be effective . That's the way it sometimes works.
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Post by stokecitydom on Nov 5, 2021 13:23:33 GMT
Tyrese has played 57 minutes of league football over 3 substitute appearances in which we have not been playing well.
It’s sometimes tough to make an impact as a sub, let alone when you’ve had 9 months out with a knee injury.
Any talk of him needing to be change his game, loaning him or even questioning his performances is ridiculous. He just needs some time & I’ll happily ignore some 20 minute cameos where he doesn’t have an impact.
Patience is needed.
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Tyrese
Nov 6, 2021 0:00:55 GMT
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Post by miltonstokienew on Nov 6, 2021 0:00:55 GMT
I recall you saying he should be starting now rather than playing under 23s a little while back. Clearly on last nights showing he’s not match fit. So either he’s been rushed back or he’s not taken getting back for seriously… wonder which. This post makes absolutely no sense. Toxic rat
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Tyrese
Nov 6, 2021 5:53:04 GMT
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Post by outspaced on Nov 6, 2021 5:53:04 GMT
Alan shearer is a good example, of a player realising ,he has to come back from a bad injury , as a different player Before his first bad injury , he was quick and skilful ,but even after one serious injury , he had to change his game , play a different way . Ty might have to come back , a different Ty Campbell , to be effective . That's the way it sometimes works. And what a player Shearer was after all of his injuries. Long range, close range, headers, penalties. Deadly.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 6, 2021 7:16:14 GMT
Tyrese has played 57 minutes of league football over 3 substitute appearances in which we have not been playing well. It’s sometimes tough to make an impact as a sub, let alone when you’ve had 9 months out with a knee injury. Any talk of him needing to be change his game, loaning him or even questioning his performances is ridiculous. He just needs some time & I’ll happily ignore some 20 minute cameos where he doesn’t have an impact. Patience is needed. The trouble is mate no one has any patience any more. It’s the ‘Amazon Prime’ generation. Next day delivery or it’s shit.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 6, 2021 7:48:37 GMT
Tyrese has played 57 minutes of league football over 3 substitute appearances in which we have not been playing well. It’s sometimes tough to make an impact as a sub, let alone when you’ve had 9 months out with a knee injury. Any talk of him needing to be change his game, loaning him or even questioning his performances is ridiculous. He just needs some time & I’ll happily ignore some 20 minute cameos where he doesn’t have an impact. Patience is needed. I’d argue he did make an impact in the first two games, he missed a really good chance against Bournemouth after getting behind them and had a scuffed shot he should have done better with, against Cardiff he made a really good run but for some reason chose to shoot into the side netting when he should have squared it. I’m certainly not worried, he’s making all the right runs and getting into the right positions his strength and fitness will follow but it could take a couple of months fans need to be patient……
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 6, 2021 9:08:25 GMT
Tyrese has played 57 minutes of league football over 3 substitute appearances in which we have not been playing well. It’s sometimes tough to make an impact as a sub, let alone when you’ve had 9 months out with a knee injury. Any talk of him needing to be change his game, loaning him or even questioning his performances is ridiculous. He just needs some time & I’ll happily ignore some 20 minute cameos where he doesn’t have an impact. Patience is needed. I’d argue he did make an impact in the first two games, he missed a really good chance against Bournemouth after getting behind them and had a scuffed shot he should have done better with, against Cardiff he made a really good run but for some reason chose to shoot into the side netting when he should have squared it. I’m certainly not worried, he’s making all the right runs and getting into the right positions his strength and fitness will follow but it could take a couple of months fans need to be patient…… And against Brentford he didn’t necessarily have the chances but put himself about and wasn’t afraid of contact which is something I had been told was an issue. I have a feeling he’ll score today.
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Tyrese
Nov 6, 2021 9:14:31 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Nov 6, 2021 9:14:31 GMT
I’d argue he did make an impact in the first two games, he missed a really good chance against Bournemouth after getting behind them and had a scuffed shot he should have done better with, against Cardiff he made a really good run but for some reason chose to shoot into the side netting when he should have squared it. I’m certainly not worried, he’s making all the right runs and getting into the right positions his strength and fitness will follow but it could take a couple of months fans need to be patient…… And against Brentford he didn’t necessarily have the chances but put himself about and wasn’t afraid of contact which is something I had been told was an issue. I have a feeling he’ll score today. I hope you are right 🤞
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2021 9:16:22 GMT
I’d argue he did make an impact in the first two games, he missed a really good chance against Bournemouth after getting behind them and had a scuffed shot he should have done better with, against Cardiff he made a really good run but for some reason chose to shoot into the side netting when he should have squared it. I’m certainly not worried, he’s making all the right runs and getting into the right positions his strength and fitness will follow but it could take a couple of months fans need to be patient…… And against Brentford he didn’t necessarily have the chances but put himself about and wasn’t afraid of contact which is something I had been told was an issue. I have a feeling he’ll score today. A win and Tyrese scoring would be the perfect day 👌
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 20:02:51 GMT
Didn't Shearer score his first game back? Either way, Campbell getting game time and the experts knowing if rushed back etc have no idea how these injuries work in reality and what stage he's at. Good to see him on the pitch for me.
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Post by moon on Dec 6, 2021 5:31:35 GMT
Tyrese Campbell is back, it seemed all he needed was a bit of time, not a loan to league one as some had suggested!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 5:58:08 GMT
Tyrese Campbell is back, it seemed all he needed was a bit of time, not a loan to league one as some had suggested! Starting to look like the player he was before injury. Looked like a muscle problem today. Hopefully just stiffness.
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Tyrese
Dec 6, 2021 8:33:17 GMT
Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 6, 2021 8:33:17 GMT
Refit to MON and team, they have managed his return expertly. Even though he is still only about 80%, Campbell changes the dynamic of the team massively. His movement and control give defenders much more to think about than our other forwards and our players suddenly have options as space opens up. Vrancic and Sawyers found themselves with more space and options yesterday
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Tyrese
Dec 6, 2021 8:47:39 GMT
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Post by Silkystoke on Dec 6, 2021 8:47:39 GMT
What’s is injury..????
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Post by stormin on Dec 6, 2021 8:51:38 GMT
I don't know why this is a discussion item, if Stoke don't win promotion he will be subject to a number of Premiership bids.
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Tyrese
Dec 6, 2021 8:57:52 GMT
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Post by jwhpotter on Dec 6, 2021 8:57:52 GMT
He’ll be fine just tight calves and was knackered
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Tyrese
Dec 6, 2021 9:34:50 GMT
Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 6, 2021 9:34:50 GMT
He looked so much better yesterday and the early goal probably helped. You forget how much he brings to the team other than goals. His link up play, his speed, even his strength. It was all there yesterday and he can hopefully really kick on now. Smashing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2021 9:36:45 GMT
Playing with Fletcher will help. Him and Brown shouldn’t really start together up front. Fletcher occupies defenders and creates space and it makes a massive difference.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 6, 2021 9:51:12 GMT
Certainly hasn't lost his touch and finishing but still looks a bit leggy and not up to 90 minutes at the moment to me. I'm not complaining - the's actually 2 or 3 months ahead of where I thought he'd be in the summer. Great to have him back - the fitness levels will come.
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Tyrese
Dec 6, 2021 12:07:21 GMT
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Post by armitage on Dec 6, 2021 12:07:21 GMT
Am l being a bit pricky or does anyone else think he looks like he's carrying a bit too much weight? Must make him a little less quick over the first five or ten yards, surely?
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Tyrese
Dec 6, 2021 12:23:12 GMT
Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 6, 2021 12:23:12 GMT
Am l being a bit pricky or does anyone else think he looks like he's carrying a bit too much weight? Must make him a little less quick over the first five or ten yards, surely? I think it's just the way he carries himself. He outpaced them plenty of times yesterday, including for his goal.
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Tyrese
Dec 6, 2021 12:24:59 GMT
Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 6, 2021 12:24:59 GMT
Am l being a bit pricky or does anyone else think he looks like he's carrying a bit too much weight? Must make him a little less quick over the first five or ten yards, surely? I think he's definitely hit the gym, it's muscle not fat but hopefully not to the detriment of his pace once he gets up to full speed......
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