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Post by insideright on Oct 30, 2021 16:50:18 GMT
I'm not watching Stoke again with him in the side! Can't pass Can't tackle, no positional sense. We have never had a functional midfield with him in it! Yes I get that Sawyers was shit also but Allen has been a problem for years!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2021 16:52:51 GMT
How anyone can defend this bloke is beyond me.
A curse upon this club.
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Post by tejstokie on Oct 30, 2021 16:58:58 GMT
He's the poster boy for pinching a living once you've got a contract. People give Clucas shit. At least he wins us one game a season at Swansea. Allen singlehandedly loses counters for goals each week, can't pass, can't defend just a huge reason for our demise who is undropabble for no reason and unsellable for all the reasons.
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Oct 30, 2021 17:01:43 GMT
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Post by Han Solo on Oct 30, 2021 17:01:43 GMT
I do think he tries but he just doesn’t fit into what we’re trying to do.
Not creative enough to play the Sawyers / Vrancic role
Not physical / strong enough to play DM
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 30, 2021 17:07:25 GMT
Irrespective of your views on him as a player it is surely hard for anyone to disagree that his time here has been an absolute disaster.
He is 100% synonymous with the abject failure and spineless performances associated with our club for past 5 years.
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Post by milky on Oct 30, 2021 17:10:27 GMT
I've given up trying to work out what Joe Allen is.
He doesn't score ,he rarely assists and he gives us little defensive protection.
We were told we should be eternally grateful he agreed to stay with us after relegation and how he would look different class.
Well the second bit was right, he usually looks a class below the opposition.
I've long accepted he will always get picked though.
Forever the elephant in the room.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 30, 2021 17:13:11 GMT
I think our midfield did well today, Allen included, they out played Cardiff's midfield at times...... It was only when Cardiff started to spread long balls wide, in a bid to bypass the midfield where they'd had no joy, that our midfield faded out of the game!!!
That's where O'Neil fails to make an impact!!!
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Oct 30, 2021 17:14:58 GMT
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Post by onionman on Oct 30, 2021 17:14:58 GMT
His lack of leadership in the last few games has been stunning. Pathetic player.
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Post by masterpotter on Oct 30, 2021 17:24:32 GMT
Cut and paste Glenn Whelan and look how that ended
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Post by citynickscfc on Oct 30, 2021 17:26:05 GMT
Cut and paste Glenn Whelan and look how that ended Whelan was class. Joe is rubbish.
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Post by masterpotter on Oct 30, 2021 17:29:17 GMT
How many constantly slagged off whelan probably our best ever pound for pound signing. Allen is class . Too many who don’t understand the game to see it
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 30, 2021 17:31:33 GMT
I think our midfield did well today, Allen included, they out played Cardiff's midfield at times...... It was only when Cardiff started to spread long balls wide, in a bid to bypass the midfield where they'd had no joy, that our midfield faded out of the game!!! That's where O'Neil fails to make an impact!!! They also saw our centre backs were slow as piss and spread the ball out wide with legs. Can't blame our midfield for today I'm with you but when it was 3 3 and they needed to stand up they all disappeared.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 30, 2021 17:31:47 GMT
How many constantly slagged off whelan probably our best ever pound for pound signing. Allen is class . Too many who don’t understand the game to see it Class at what exactly?
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Oct 30, 2021 17:31:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 17:31:54 GMT
How many constantly slagged off whelan probably our best ever pound for pound signing. Allen is class . Too many who don’t understand the game to see it What does he do?
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Post by houstonsteve on Oct 30, 2021 17:33:31 GMT
How many constantly slagged off whelan probably our best ever pound for pound signing. Allen is class . Too many who don’t understand the game to see it Welcome to the oatcake Joes Mum.
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Post by masterpotter on Oct 30, 2021 17:33:43 GMT
How many constantly slagged off whelan probably our best ever pound for pound signing. Allen is class . Too many who don’t understand the game to see it Class at what exactly? Vision, ability, control all above your comprehension
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Post by milky on Oct 30, 2021 17:35:44 GMT
Vision, ability, control all above your comprehension And mine then as I'm just not seeing what you are.
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Post by masterpotter on Oct 30, 2021 17:38:34 GMT
Happy Saturday. I’m sure you’re all delighted tonight so you can sit and moan. Ffs
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 30, 2021 17:40:40 GMT
I’d love to know what is so wonderfully esoteric about Joe Allen and his role that so many of his supporters simply retreat to the accusation that his detractors “don’t understand football”.
He’s a central midfielder who struggles to pass, loses possession often (upwards of 30 times in 3 games before today) isn’t creative and demonstrated today that he’s absolutely not a leader. He’s supposed to be the captain, if ever there was a time for a captain to speak it was today at 3-2. Instead he stood there with hands on hips and his head down, as he has for nearly all of his 5 disastrous years here.
The one time he wasn’t in the side due to injury we were absolutely fine, he’s the definition of replaceable. You don’t have to be fucking Arrigo Sacchi to work that out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2021 17:42:16 GMT
How many constantly slagged off whelan probably our best ever pound for pound signing. Allen is class . Too many who don’t understand the game to see it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by BuzzB on Oct 30, 2021 17:42:45 GMT
Vision, ability, control all above your comprehension You lost me after vision and control, I then clocked you were on a wind up.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2021 17:43:03 GMT
Vision, ability, control all above your comprehension Control? Control? His second touch is often a tackle. He’s dogwank.
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Oct 30, 2021 17:43:07 GMT
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Post by RICH68 on Oct 30, 2021 17:43:07 GMT
His lack of leadership in the last few games has been stunning. Pathetic player. Absolutely right mate.
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Oct 30, 2021 17:46:03 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 30, 2021 17:46:03 GMT
I’d love to know what is so wonderfully esoteric about Joe Allen and his role that so many of his supporters simply retreat to the accusation that his detractors “don’t understand football”. He’s a central midfielder who struggles to pass, loses possession often (upwards of 30 times in 3 games before today) isn’t creative and demonstrated today that he’s absolutely not a leader. He’s supposed to be the captain, if ever there was a time for a captain to speak it was today at 3-2. Instead he stood there with hands on hips and his head down, as he has for nearly all of his 5 disastrous years here. The one time he wasn’t in the side due to injury we were absolutely fine, he’s the definition of replaceable. You don’t have to be fucking Arrigo Sacchi to work that out. This.
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Post by jzime on Oct 30, 2021 17:46:07 GMT
I'm sure he's a nice chap, and every manager he's worked with always says he's a decent professional who works hard. But the need to fit him into the squad has made us totally unbalanced. Not physical enough to be a proper defensive midfielder, doesn't have a positional-discipline to be a box-to-box player, isn't technical enough to be a creative influence on games. So he plays every week and the rest of the team has to try (and fail) to work around him.
He's genuinely been one of our worst ever signings, sorry but it's true. Not on the level of Imbula or Wimmer bad. But, for £12m, he joined a club who finished 9th three years in a row and has has been a mainstay in a side that has only got worse and worse. I'm not trying to suggest that it's entirely and exclusively his fault we've got worse. But even if you like him you have to accept that he certainly hasn't improved us, and clubs like Stoke City can't afford to spend over £10m on players who don't improve the squad.
It's absolutely impossible to justify the contract he received after we got relegated, too. All the troubles we've had to comply with FFP while we've got a player on the books earning PL wages who (like him or not) simply hasn't delivered PL-level performances.
If we was as 'class' as the people who love him think he is, how come no PL clubs have tried to sign him over the last four seasons? The simple answer is that he is not worth the money he earns.
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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 30, 2021 17:47:36 GMT
Well past it now. Takes too long on the ball then usually gives it away anyway.
Our biggest problem in midfield by far.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 30, 2021 17:49:32 GMT
How many constantly slagged off whelan probably our best ever pound for pound signing. Allen is class . Too many who don’t understand the game to see it Educate us then Confucius, what’s he bringing to the table?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 30, 2021 17:52:24 GMT
Joe's not the problem- MoN is
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2021 17:53:57 GMT
Joe's not the problem- MoN is Joe’s been the problem since he signed
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 30, 2021 17:55:16 GMT
Joe's not the problem- MoN is Joe’s been the problem since he signed Horseshit.......
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