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Post by Kingswaystokie on Oct 30, 2021 15:55:57 GMT
End of.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 30, 2021 15:57:31 GMT
Not one captain on the pitch or in the squad
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 30, 2021 16:03:50 GMT
Biggest problem is we have no leaders. The 2 most experienced players Allen and Chester offer nothing in that dept and neither seem to be up for the fight in particular Chester. I’m staggered as to how he keeps getting picked every week. He’s just so far past his best it’s unbelievable.
This games totally down to the defence and personal mistakes.
Bursic should have saved the first (that set the panic in)
Awful pass for the second from Tymon
and the customary ball across the box that no one cuts out for the third.
It could have been worse though as they had some decent chances prior to that.
MON must be pulling his hair out re these capitulations as we look so comfortable but he keeps picking the same players and making the same subs.
His insistence on picking Allen and Chester is a major problem as they’re consistently part of the problem.
Tyrese needs to start next game he looks very sharp.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 30, 2021 16:06:11 GMT
You watch them at 3-3 and there wasnt one player talking to another one.
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Post by franklin on Oct 30, 2021 16:06:30 GMT
The whole club has no backbone mate. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 30, 2021 16:07:57 GMT
The whole club has no backbone mate. I know he’s no Beckenbaur but Batth has to come in as at least he’s got a bit of fight |
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 30, 2021 16:09:38 GMT
The whole club has no backbone mate. I know he’s no Beckenbaur but Batth has to come in as at least he’s got a bit of fight I think dave from the dog and duck is better than Chester. Why the fuck we offered him a contract I'll never know. |
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Post by sd22 on Oct 30, 2021 16:11:21 GMT
No backbone, no leadership, no bark, no ambition. Bottle Job FC: thanks for the ride.
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Post by franklin on Oct 30, 2021 16:14:56 GMT
The whole club has no backbone mate. I know he’s no Beckenbaur but Batth has to come in as at least he’s got a bit of fight I dunno pal after a promising start we've reverted to type a weak easy touch with an "nice" bloke as manager. I'd be throwing shit at them in the dressing room a hairdryer treatment is needed. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Oct 30, 2021 16:16:18 GMT
It’ll stay the same until Allen retires because knowing Stoke we’ll extend his contract.
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 30, 2021 16:17:50 GMT
Leo soutts and batth back 3 and make batth captain. Wilmot had been terrible last few days and Chester is a absolute joke.
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Post by wuzza on Oct 30, 2021 16:20:37 GMT
I don’t think calling out individual players gets to the core of this.
The ethos in the team is terrible and has been for years. Need winners - ain’t got any.
In addition I still feel we are trying to play a brand of football we just aren’t good enough for.
Some fundamental re thinking required.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 30, 2021 16:25:08 GMT
They are just gutless. They need a Stoke station experience to see if any of them has a fire in their belly.
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Post by 1972stokey on Oct 30, 2021 16:27:22 GMT
Although they had some decent chances early on we looked far better with both Brown and Thompson willing to press. Taking both of them off gave Cardiff a really easy final 15
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 16:28:17 GMT
The whole club has no backbone mate. I know he’s no Beckenbaur but Batth has to come in as at least he’s got a bit of fight And Batth actually score goals when he gets the chance. |
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Post by samba :) on Oct 30, 2021 16:29:20 GMT
I’ve got more character than our team and i’m probably the most miserable person in the midlands
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Post by thevoid on Oct 30, 2021 16:29:51 GMT
Get him out
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 30, 2021 16:29:53 GMT
Although they had some decent chances early on we looked far better with both Brown and Thompson willing to press. Taking both of them off gave Cardiff a really easy final 15 The early chance was just rank bad defending from an aimless ball forward. Fletcher was dead on his feet so he was always coming off, I would have kept Brown on instead of bringing Campbell though he was still full of running……. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 30, 2021 16:40:00 GMT
Although they had some decent chances early on we looked far better with both Brown and Thompson willing to press. Taking both of them off gave Cardiff a really easy final 15 I didn’t get the Thompson sub. I thought both he and Sawyers had good games. 2 of the 3 goals were down to individual mistakes the third the customary ball across the box but even prior to that we’d given them a few good chances. Against a better side wed have got battered today. Let’s not kids ourselves Cardiff we’re a woeful side and it should have been a cakewalk. Today was all on the defence. On a positive note Tyrese looked good when he came on. It’s only a matter of time before he starts firing. I think I’d go back to 4231 to accommodate him and Brown. ……………….Bursic……………… Smith……Souter….Odi……Tymon ……….Wilmott…….Thompson….. ..Campbell…..Sawyers…….Brown ………………...Fletch…………….. |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 30, 2021 16:47:43 GMT
We have been mentally and physically weak for a long time now and it's never been addressed. With the current team, we will continue to be exposed, let's not kid ourselves, Cardiff had way more clear cut chances than us.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 30, 2021 16:50:27 GMT
Biggest problem is we have no leaders. The 2 most experienced players Allen and Chester offer nothing in that dept and neither seem to be up for the fight in particular Chester. I’m staggered as to how he keeps getting picked every week. He’s just so far past his best it’s unbelievable. This games totally down to the defence and personal mistakes. Bursic should have saved the first (that set the panic in) Awful pass for the second from Tymon and the customary ball across the box that no one cuts out for the third. It could have been worse though as they had some decent chances prior to that. MON must be pulling his hair out re these capitulations as we look so comfortable but he keeps picking the same players and making the same subs. His insistence on picking Allen and Chester is a major problem as they’re consistently part of the problem. Tyrese needs to start next game he looks very sharp. I agree with most of that but there is a lack of management off the pitch as well as on it. We are lucky we didn't lose 6 - 3 on chances. Everyone is criticising the defending and lack of game management, but I would like to point out that for long periods of the recent lost games we have controlled the game but created few chances and not scored often. Today we did get 3 goals, but considering that we dominated a very poor team for long periods, it is quite poor that we only had 11 shots all game and only 4 on target. We were lucky therefore to actually get 3 goals. We are dominating teams and then it appears "the penny drops" with them and they realise we are quite toothless and they can throw caution to wind and have a go at us. |
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Post by silverdollar on Oct 30, 2021 16:52:12 GMT
Control your disappointment and put your brain into gear. This is a set of players who only a few games ago put on a brilliant performance against WBA. We have then gone on and lost four difficult games against good sides. Yes there is no way any side should capitulate in the way we did today and three goals conceded in six minutes makes it even more unbearable. I thought the decision to bring on two new forwards was at best questionable. Most will want to know why we couldn't shut up shop after going 3-0. We could easily have brought on An extra defender. All the talk about sacking the manager is ludicrous! |
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 30, 2021 16:56:55 GMT
Wyy do we set our defensive line 15 yards behind the middle of the pitch at 3-0 up!? With that line 25 yards from our own goal we would have won the game, and got plenty counter attacks too! I can hardly believe how naive we are!  |
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