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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 23, 2021 17:07:10 GMT
I STILL can't decide if this bloke is the man to take us forward or not???
After a decent start, and witnessing some good football, plus nice comments from Preston and West Brom about us being the best team they've come up against so far.....the wheels, once again seem set to come flying off!!!
It's not the fact that we've lost 3 on the bounce that's bugging me as much, it's the manner in which we've done it!!!
Michael seems to struggle with reacting to other teams tactical changes!!!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 23, 2021 17:21:01 GMT
Are his assistants giving him any help on the side lines, or are they just yes men?
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Post by march4 on Oct 23, 2021 17:23:15 GMT
Are his assistants giving him any help on the side lines, or are they just yes men? He changed his assistant manager in the summer but we seem to be back to the form of last winter. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2021 22:04:08 GMT
If we are genuinely ambitious he'd be gone in the break replaced by someone with a track record of promotion in this league wilder being one option . He's being out managed in key games by Parker. Jocanovic and Rowett . His recruitment is miss hit miss miss at best. He's not getting us ou of this league
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 23, 2021 22:12:19 GMT
If we are genuinely ambitious he'd be gone in the break replaced by someone with a track record of promotion in this league wilder being one option . He's being out managed in key games by Parker. Jocanovic and Rowett . His recruitment is miss hit miss miss at best. He's not getting us ou of this league This “outmanaged” bollocks makes laugh……. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2021 22:12:24 GMT
Mboro and Luton overtaking us is a very sobering reflection on management's performance
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 23, 2021 22:13:34 GMT
Mboro and Luton overtaking us is a very sobering reflection on management's performance Middlesbrough have made some expensive additions this season so not that sobering. It certainly reflects on the ups and downs of the Championship….. |
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Post by kustokie on Oct 23, 2021 22:20:22 GMT
He is starting to show a basic lack of imagination. He’s stuck on 3-5-2 but he’s constantly tinkering with the midfield, so it’s not settled and he has no plan B. There was a huge void behind the front two, which meant Surridge and then Fletcher were having to drop back to fill the void. For God’s sake if you’re going to play two up front leave them both up there and get them the ball or change the system.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 23, 2021 22:23:20 GMT
Mboro and Luton overtaking us is a very sobering reflection on management's performance Middlesbrough have made some expensive additions this season so not that sobering. It certainly reflects on the ups and downs of the Championship….. Its sobering and prefi tsbkr that Warnock and Jones having in inherited equally perilous positions have outperformed O'Neil over their tenure |
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Post by Gods on Oct 23, 2021 22:24:14 GMT
I think MON just gave up in January as we started to unravel. We went 10 games on the bounce without a win at one point and he was left wittering inanely on week after week about a collective exhaustion, not least his own one imagined.
It all culminated in that farcical Zoom call we all joined one evening to listen to TS,JC, and MON wise cracking where bizarrely there was no acknowledgement at all that perhaps things were not going exactly to plan!
We got our mojo back at the start of this season and for 6 games we did very well. The next 8 games however have yielded an underwhelming 8 points and consequently we have been caught by the peloton of the Championship's middle order who look like they are shortly to ride straight through us.
With fans back in the stadium we won't be able to just chuck then towel in again this time and so I just fear for where it is all heading.
I think it would be good to get some kind of 'State of the Nation' view from the Board next week just to hopefully steady a few frayed nerves and see how the land lies.
I mean this is our 4th attempt at making an impact on the Championship after 10 years in the Premier League and we have yet to trouble the scorers!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 23, 2021 23:02:58 GMT
Middlesbrough have made some expensive additions this season so not that sobering. It certainly reflects on the ups and downs of the Championship….. Its sobering and prefi tsbkr that Warnock and Jones having in inherited equally perilous positions have outperformed O'Neil over their tenure I mean we’re all level on points but ok. Maybe we should get this Nathan Jones fella in as a replacement he sounds great……. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 23, 2021 23:14:28 GMT
One sobering thought is, Forest have picked up massively since getting rid of Hughton, and as tough a games as they have against Fulham t'morra, if they win, they're only "ONE" point behind us....
Considering they were rock bottom when we played them, and couldn't buy a win!!!
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Oct 24, 2021 1:02:25 GMT
Nathan Jones .....Hmmmm .Have you seen the film Groundhog Day where you wake up every morning and think he is still the manager or Rowett even .Nightmare scenario .
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Post by callas12 on Oct 24, 2021 2:16:37 GMT
One sobering thought is, Forest have picked up massively since getting rid of Hughton, and as tough a games as they have against Fulham t'morra, if they win, they're only "ONE" point behind us.... Considering they were rock bottom when we played them, and couldn't buy a win!!! That is a scary thought. I've known Forest have been grinding out victories but tried not to see how quickly they are closing in on us. Very swiftly it would indeed appear. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 24, 2021 5:32:46 GMT
He may be out of his depth having not managed in this league before and it’s a very hard league to get out of , I’m not saying Bruce is the answer but he does know what it takes to get promotion
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Post by zerps on Oct 24, 2021 5:50:34 GMT
Its sobering and prefi tsbkr that Warnock and Jones having in inherited equally perilous positions have outperformed O'Neil over their tenure I mean we’re all level on points but ok. Maybe we should get this Nathan Jones fella in as a replacement he sounds great……. Says it all then. That he’ll be above us soon, |
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Post by zerps on Oct 24, 2021 5:51:40 GMT
He may be out of his depth having not managed in this league before and it’s a very hard league to get out of , I’m not saying Bruce is the answer but he does know what it takes to get promotion Bruce had a cracking record in the championship. We won’t sack mon for at least a year though. We’ll persist with this shit until it’s far too late. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 24, 2021 6:54:19 GMT
He may be out of his depth having not managed in this league before and it’s a very hard league to get out of , I’m not saying Bruce is the answer but he does know what it takes to get promotion Bruce had a cracking record in the championship. We won’t sack mon for at least a year though. We’ll persist with this shit until it’s far too late. He’s not everybody’s choice but like you say he knows what it takes to get promotion, it’s how long the board give MON , I think November and December are massive for him |
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Post by potterburt on Oct 24, 2021 7:36:52 GMT
Shall we all make a bumper wholesale multi underpants order for our fans on this forum. It’s cheaper if you buy on mass. Nice to see all the (until recently) elusive faces have crept out once again and the hysteria has begun.
Last season was ground zero, this season MoN is still trying to reinforce the foundations while mainly building the first floor, early signs are that the finished article will end up being a very attractive and well built building.
It took us 5 inept ‘championship’ standard managers over the same amount of years to get us into this mess, I don’t know if I want to go through that same process again in the hope that ‘that calibre’ of managers are the ones to get us out of this league.
Especially if that process occurs again mainly due to rushed pushing by fan pressure because a bunch of fans at the first sign of a wobble are blarting away only because they’re sitting in their soiled cold wet undies.
We’ve still just a good chance this season, next season the cheque book opens and we’ve all seen what MoN has done without any money, why not pipe down on the hysteria a bit and we take a look at MoN with money to spend?
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 24, 2021 8:38:17 GMT
Shall we all make a bumper wholesale multi underpants order for our fans on this forum. It’s cheaper if you buy on mass. Nice to see all the (until recently) elusive faces have crept out once again and the hysteria has begun. Last season was ground zero, this season MoN is still trying to reinforce the foundations while mainly building the first floor, early signs are that the finished article will end up being a very attractive and well built building. It took us 5 inept ‘championship’ standard managers over the same amount of years to get us into this mess, I don’t know if I want to go through that same process again in the hope that ‘that calibre’ of managers are the ones to get us out of this league. Especially if that process occurs again mainly due to rushed pushing by fan pressure because a bunch of fans at the first sign of a wobble are blarting away only because they’re sitting in their soiled cold wet undies. We’ve still just a good chance this season, next season the cheque book opens and we’ve all seen what MoN has done without any money, why not pipe down on the hysteria a bit and we take a look at MoN with money to spend? I’m with you Mrs ONeil 😲 |
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Post by potterburt on Oct 24, 2021 8:45:47 GMT
Shall we all make a bumper wholesale multi underpants order for our fans on this forum. It’s cheaper if you buy on mass. Nice to see all the (until recently) elusive faces have crept out once again and the hysteria has begun. Last season was ground zero, this season MoN is still trying to reinforce the foundations while mainly building the first floor, early signs are that the finished article will end up being a very attractive and well built building. It took us 5 inept ‘championship’ standard managers over the same amount of years to get us into this mess, I don’t know if I want to go through that same process again in the hope that ‘that calibre’ of managers are the ones to get us out of this league. Especially if that process occurs again mainly due to rushed pushing by fan pressure because a bunch of fans at the first sign of a wobble are blarting away only because they’re sitting in their soiled cold wet undies. We’ve still just a good chance this season, next season the cheque book opens and we’ve all seen what MoN has done without any money, why not pipe down on the hysteria a bit and we take a look at MoN with money to spend? I’m with you Mrs ONeil 😲 Great stuff, so should I put you down for a multi pack of XXXL or just XXL? 😉 |
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Post by jarvinski on Oct 24, 2021 8:50:07 GMT
Are you saying Jimmy could be right then?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 24, 2021 8:50:55 GMT
Its sobering and prefi tsbkr that Warnock and Jones having in inherited equally perilous positions have outperformed O'Neil over their tenure I mean we’re all level on points but ok. Maybe we should get this Nathan Jones fella in as a replacement he sounds great……. Easy logic but the process decided that Jones wasn't good enough and was replaced by oneil over two and half years nor a has done a better job with less resource environment? Culture? Ability? It's very telling oneil be a steady and a decent bloke but there was on appointment and is now zero evidence he's going to get the club promoted assuming that's the aim |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 24, 2021 8:52:35 GMT
I mean we’re all level on points but ok. Maybe we should get this Nathan Jones fella in as a replacement he sounds great……. Says it all then. That he’ll be above us soon, It says to me that maybe our current situation is more than just a manager issue and that we need to be patient in turning round 5 years of decline |
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Post by withnall on Oct 24, 2021 8:54:33 GMT
Put me down for an extra small pair.
like my pants nice and tight.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 24, 2021 8:55:06 GMT
I mean we’re all level on points but ok. Maybe we should get this Nathan Jones fella in as a replacement he sounds great……. Easy logic but the process decided that Jones wasn't good enough and was replaced by oneil over two and half years nor a has done a better job with less resource environment? Culture? Ability? It's very telling oneil be a steady and a decent bloke but there was on appointment and is now zero evidence he's going to get the club promoted assuming that's the aim Jones was a disaster yet it turns out he’s not a bad manager but let’s just keep sacking ours and starting another rebuild |
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Post by loosestools on Oct 24, 2021 8:57:24 GMT
I mean we’re all level on points but ok. Maybe we should get this Nathan Jones fella in as a replacement he sounds great……. Easy logic but the process decided that Jones wasn't good enough and was replaced by oneil over two and half years nor a has done a better job with less resource environment? Culture? Ability? It's very telling oneil be a steady and a decent bloke but there was on appointment and is now zero evidence he's going to get the club promoted assuming that's the aim Benji, who would be your choice as manager? |
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Post by zerps on Oct 24, 2021 8:58:14 GMT
Says it all then. That he’ll be above us soon, It says to me that maybe our current situation is more than just a manger issue and that we need to be patient in turning round 5 years of decline You’re right. Back to square one. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 24, 2021 9:01:53 GMT
The board will not sack Mon till its to late he will grind out the odd result to keep them at bay.
But we are not getting promoted or even play off contenders with this man in charge his team selections & tactics are quickly pulled apart by other managers as we have seen in the last 3 games.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 24, 2021 9:02:33 GMT
It says to me that maybe our current situation is more than just a manger issue and that we need to be patient in turning round 5 years of decline You’re right. Back to square one. The squad has seen a massive overhaul and we now have young valuable assets and with the FFP issues hopefully put to bed the future looks much brighter. I couldn’t see a way forward until MON took over |
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