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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 19, 2021 21:53:03 GMT
Vrancic 7 Surridge 7 Campbell 7 The rest were absolutely fucking garbage and deserve no more than a 5 at best. Souttar was more than a 5 Fair enough, I'll give him a 6
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 19, 2021 21:53:30 GMT
His awful passing had nothing to do with Clucas, constantly chose the wrong ball and gave it away first half, improved a little in the second. It did. As I’ve said, watch it back. Clucas is either landing him in trouble or offering nothing. I’m not defending Wilmot, I’m saying is it’s a team game and Clucas is the anti-thesis of ‘team-player’. A more experienced defender may have more quickly adapted at the ineptitude to which was in front of him, there was a point where Wilmot was giving Clucas jip- fair play to a hound 21 hr old, who has more talent in his armpit than Clucas has ever had. Where was Allen during all this, Clucas was higher up the field, it wasn't just his passes to Clucas that weren't good enough, some of them were nowhere near their intended target. To be fair to him he did improve in the second half, but his poor passing was mostly down to himself.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 19, 2021 21:57:19 GMT
Anyone else think wilmot was fucking rubbish? No He was fucking gash
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Post by potterburt on Oct 19, 2021 21:57:32 GMT
It did. As I’ve said, watch it back. Clucas is either landing him in trouble or offering nothing. I’m not defending Wilmot, I’m saying is it’s a team game and Clucas is the anti-thesis of ‘team-player’. A more experienced defender may have more quickly adapted at the ineptitude to which was in front of him, there was a point where Wilmot was giving Clucas jip- fair play to a hound 21 hr old, who has more talent in his armpit than Clucas has ever had. Where was Allen during all this, Clucas was higher up the field. Why you chatting about Allen? He sits in front of Souttar, Clucas is supposed to be in front of Wilmot and the connector between him / Smith and the long ball. ???? Allen WTF??? Seriously - just watch it back, first half… calamity Clucas passing the buck onto Wilmot at every occasion. Allen doesn’t come into this.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 19, 2021 21:58:19 GMT
Souttar was more than a 5 Fair enough, I'll give him a 6 What game were you watching, he was class again.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 19, 2021 21:59:11 GMT
Where was Allen during all this, Clucas was higher up the field. Why you chatting about Allen? He sits in front of Souttar, Clucas is supposed to be in front of Wilmot and the connector between him / Smith and the long ball. ???? Allen WTF??? Seriously - just watch it back, first half… calamity Clucas passing the buck onto Wilmot at every occasion. Allen doesn’t come into this. So not a team game then. If Clucas isn't showing the captain should have taken responsibility and stepped up showing him how its done. Either way, it was awful passing in the first half, down to no one but himself.
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Post by potterburt on Oct 19, 2021 22:00:23 GMT
Why you chatting about Allen? He sits in front of Souttar, Clucas is supposed to be in front of Wilmot and the connector between him / Smith and the long ball. ???? Allen WTF??? Seriously - just watch it back, first half… calamity Clucas passing the buck onto Wilmot at every occasion. Allen doesn’t come into this. So not a team game then. ????
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Post by potterburt on Oct 19, 2021 22:04:22 GMT
Why you chatting about Allen? He sits in front of Souttar, Clucas is supposed to be in front of Wilmot and the connector between him / Smith and the long ball. ???? Allen WTF??? Seriously - just watch it back, first half… calamity Clucas passing the buck onto Wilmot at every occasion. Allen doesn’t come into this. So not a team game then. If Clucas isn't showing the captain should have taken responsibility and stepped up showing him how its done. Either way, it was awful passing in the first half, down to no one but himself. Yeah of course - so if Lloris having a shocker then Harry Kane should step in….? Oh but hang on Lloris has been captain quite a bit, Harry’s struggling up front, let’s get Hugo up top! A captain is just a captain, they can’t suddenly clone themselves on pitch to go and fill in for another player all game. 😕
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 19, 2021 22:06:12 GMT
Anyone else think wilmot was fucking rubbish? Not think. He is fucking rubbish.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 19, 2021 22:06:13 GMT
So not a team game then. If Clucas isn't showing the captain should have taken responsibility and stepped up showing him how its done. Either way, it was awful passing in the first half, down to no one but himself. Yeah of course - so if Lloris having a shower then Harry Kane should step in….? Oh but hang on Lloris has been captain quite a bit, Harry’s struggling up front, let’s get Hugo up top! A captain is just a captain, they can’t suddenly clone themselves on pitch to go and fill in for another player all game. 😕 Not quite the same is it, they don't play the same position for a start. But given Kane's form before this weekend just gone he probably wouldn't do much worse
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2021 22:06:47 GMT
Davies 3
Smith 5 Wilmot 4 Souttar 5 Chester 5 Tymon 5
Thompson 6 Allen 4 Clucas 3
Brown 5 Powell 5
Vrancic 4 Surridge 4 Campbell 6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 22:08:38 GMT
So not a team game then. If Clucas isn't showing the captain should have taken responsibility and stepped up showing him how its done. Either way, it was awful passing in the first half, down to no one but himself. Yeah of course - so if Lloris having a shocker then Harry Kane should step in….? Oh but hang on Lloris has been captain quite a bit, Harry’s struggling up front, let’s get Hugo up top! A captain is just a captain, they can’t suddenly clone themselves on pitch to go and fill in for another player all game. 😕 If Allen does go over to sort out Clucas' messes, he will only get criticised on here for being out of position
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 19, 2021 22:14:24 GMT
Yeah of course - so if Lloris having a shocker then Harry Kane should step in….? Oh but hang on Lloris has been captain quite a bit, Harry’s struggling up front, let’s get Hugo up top! A captain is just a captain, they can’t suddenly clone themselves on pitch to go and fill in for another player all game. 😕 If Allen does go over to sort out Clucas' messes, he will only get criticised on here for being out of position Least he would have done something during the game.
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Post by OldStokie on Oct 19, 2021 22:20:44 GMT
Davies 2
Smith 6 Wilmot 5 Souttar 7 Chester 6 Tymon 6
Thompson 7 Allen 5 Clucas 4
Brown 6 Powell 6
Vrancic 6 Surridge 6 Campbell 6
OS.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 19, 2021 23:02:45 GMT
Davies - 3
Smith - 6 Wilmot - 5 Souttar - 7 Chester - 6 Tymon - 6
Allen - 2 Clucas - 2 Thompson - 5
Brown - 4 Powell - N/A
Subs:
Vrancic - 5 Surridge - 4 Campbell - 4
The midfield tonight was fucking pathetic.
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 19, 2021 23:07:53 GMT
Don't know what game the Sentinel's Pete Smith was watching but obviously a different one to me. Those scores give the impression it was a good performance from our midfield in particular, where in reality two of them, Allen and Clucas were bloody awful (again). Unbelievable to me that anyone could think they were all 6s. Davies - 4 Smith - 5 Wilmot - 5 Souttar - 6 Chester - 5 Tymon - 6 Allen - 4 Thompson - 7 MOTM Clucas - 3 Powell - 5 Brown - 5 Subs; Vrancic - 7 Surridge - 6 Campbell - 5
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 19, 2021 23:15:18 GMT
Davies 5
Wilmott 6 Souttar 6 Chester 5
Smith 6 Allen 6 Clucas 5 Thompson 6.5 Tymon 5
Powell 6 Brown 5
Vrancic 6 Campbell 6 Surridge 6
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 19, 2021 23:28:36 GMT
Davies - 3
Smith - 5 Wilmot - 3 Souttar - 8 Chester- 5 Tymon - 5
Allen - 5 Clucas - 4 Thompson - 6
Powell - 5 Brown - 6
Vrancic - 6 Surridge - 6 Campbell - 6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 5:29:09 GMT
Clucas and Allen deserve mo more than a 3.
They were both fucking dreadful.
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Post by boniek on Oct 20, 2021 5:47:19 GMT
Davies 5
Smith 6 Wilmot 5 Souttar 7 Chester 5 Tymon 7 motm
Allen 5 Thompson 5 Clucas 4
Powell 6 Brown 6 ——————————- Vrancic 6 Surridge 7 Campbell 5
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Post by paulstoke1 on Oct 20, 2021 5:48:20 GMT
Everytime clucas is in the starting team im on a total downer as are quite a few .he was awful last season and this he came back from an injury had 1 ok game and we gave him a contract instead of getting rid and someone much better in he's so shit
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 20, 2021 6:13:09 GMT
Davies 4
Wilmot 5 Souttar 6 Chester 6
Smith 6 Allen 4 Clucas 3 Thompson 7 Tymon 5
Powell 5 Brown 5
Vrancic 5 Surridge 6 Campbell 6
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Post by redstriper on Oct 20, 2021 7:37:30 GMT
Davies - 5 Chester - 6 Souttar - 7 Wilmot - 2/8 (first half/second half) Tymon - 7 Allen - 6 Clucas - 6 Thompson - 6 Smith - 6 Powell - 5 Brown - 7
Subs: Vrancic - 7 Surridge - 7 Campbell - 6
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 20, 2021 7:43:13 GMT
Davies 3 Smith 5 Wilmot 4 Souttar 5 Chester 5 Tymon 5 Thompson 6 Allen 4 Clucas 3 Brown 5 Powell 5 Vrancic 4 Surridge 4 Campbell 6 Talk about agendas. Vrancic and Surridge made a massive difference when they came on and Surridge in particular was excellent. It was great to see Campbell back on the pitch but he was way off the pace and fluffed a decent chance - which to be fair is to be expected.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 20, 2021 7:45:41 GMT
Davies 3 Smith 5 Wilmot 4 Souttar 5 Chester 5 Tymon 5 Thompson 6 Allen 4 Clucas 3 Brown 5 Powell 5 Vrancic 4 Surridge 4 Campbell 6 Talk about agendas. Vrancic and Surridge made a massive difference when they came on and Surridge in particular was excellent. It was great to see Campbell back on the pitch but he was way off the pace and fluffed a decent chance - which to be fair is to be expected. They were both garbage. Vrancic was the wrong sub and a total passenger. Surridge did absolutely nothing.
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Post by redstriper on Oct 20, 2021 7:50:29 GMT
Talk about agendas. Vrancic and Surridge made a massive difference when they came on and Surridge in particular was excellent. It was great to see Campbell back on the pitch but he was way off the pace and fluffed a decent chance - which to be fair is to be expected. They were both garbage. Vrancic was the wrong sub and a total passenger. Surridge did absolutely nothing. Not sure what game you were at ?... watch the last 20 minutes again
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 20, 2021 7:54:23 GMT
They were both garbage. Vrancic was the wrong sub and a total passenger. Surridge did absolutely nothing. Not sure what game you were at ?... watch the last 20 minutes again Ah 20 minutes. Surridge barely touched the thing. Vrancic was better when he was played in his proper position but he still didn’t do much. We still didn’t look like we’d score if we’d have played all night and the biggest attacking threats were the wing backs and Campbell.
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Post by boweryboy on Oct 20, 2021 8:16:36 GMT
The question that has to be asked is,what does O'Neill see in Clucas that no one else see's,he brought him on against Sheffield and we conceded.... unbelievably he starts him against Bournemouth and he played his part in the goal conceded, O'Neill is costing us points by using this charlatan,we are playing with ten men whenever he is involved...for god's sake O'Neill wake up,we know what's going to happen when you involve him,why can't you !!!!
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 20, 2021 14:58:54 GMT
Thought we looked a bit flat and also a bit shaky defensively the whole game. That said, we probably created just as many goalscoring opportunities as they did, but they looked better on the ball for most of the game. Davies - 5, bad mistake for their goal. Chester - 5, difficult ball to Clucas in a dangerous area. Doesn't look comfortable on the ball. Souttar - 6 Wilmot - 7, probably our best player on the night. Tymon - 6 Allen - 5 Clucas - 5 Thompson - 6 Smith - 6 Powell - 6 Brown - 6 Vrancic - 6 Surridge - 7, looked lively after coming on! Campbell - 5, even though he was on the end of two good opportunities I thought he looked a bit away from the player he was before the injury.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 20, 2021 15:07:23 GMT
I thought Surridge did really well, linked up play really well.
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