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Post by tommycarlsberg on Oct 14, 2021 13:47:08 GMT
It a hard one to fathom. It felt like another world with the hustle and bustle. The other thing i noticed was the amount of public transport still running as well. Lots of buses and trams. If theres one thing thats probably killed Stoke on trent its the lack of decent transport options. People won't ever go out if they cant get home. There’s nowhere to go anyway mate. Where the fuck would you go for a meal up hanley? It’s a pathetic city where the canals are ignored and the smackheads own the city centre. Sorry but just clueless and unhelpful comments. Please see werringtons post above.
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Post by questionable on Oct 14, 2021 13:53:02 GMT
And yet again the six independent towns comes into the fold, I can guarantee you that absolutely nobody from outside the area knows or cares about the geography of Stoke as a whole.
People just want to visit a place, relax, meet up with friends, eat, drink, watch a film whatever really.
Investors must be rubbing their hands at the costs of commercial land in Stoke but don’t remotely consider us, why I have no idea but if they need a deserted, scummy, down beaten place for a zombie apocalypse film again we’re top of the list.
I visit Hanley only to call into Pockets as they're a really nice lot in there but I wouldn’t walk any further as it’s horrible and full of, well I’ll leave it at that.
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Post by zerps on Oct 14, 2021 15:07:06 GMT
There’s nowhere to go anyway mate. Where the fuck would you go for a meal up hanley? It’s a pathetic city where the canals are ignored and the smackheads own the city centre. Sorry but just clueless and unhelpful comments. Please see werringtons post above. Seen it. Stoke still needs nuking. Please see my post about tactical nukes. I’d aim for the potteries centre and let the fallout take hold from there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 15:43:55 GMT
Not so sure. Stoke and Liverpool take some beating. Some of those refugees who get out of lorries from Syria etc must want to get back in and go back home when they arrive. Gone from pretty bad to even worse last 10 years or so. Liverpool? Fuck me it’s going from the bizarre to the ridiculous now Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is.
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Post by zerps on Oct 14, 2021 15:53:38 GMT
Liverpool? Fuck me it’s going from the bizarre to the ridiculous now Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is. Liverpool is one of the best cities to visit in the country.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 14, 2021 16:43:28 GMT
Liverpool? Fuck me it’s going from the bizarre to the ridiculous now Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is. Liverpool is a stunning city to look at.
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Post by butlerstbob on Oct 14, 2021 16:53:28 GMT
Liverpool? Fuck me it’s going from the bizarre to the ridiculous now Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is. Liverpool is a fantastic city along with Birmingham & Nottingham which are fantastic cities to visit, Manchester obviously tops the lot.... So how you come to the conclusion that Liverpool is one of the worst cities is beyond me...
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Post by zerps on Oct 14, 2021 16:55:36 GMT
Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is. Liverpool is a fantastic city along with Birmingham & Nottingham which are fantastic cities to visit, Manchester obviously tops the lot.... So how you come to the conclusion that Liverpool is one of the worst cities is beyond me... Get thee sen up the northern 1/4 on the ale Cracking day out
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Post by butlerstbob on Oct 14, 2021 16:58:09 GMT
Liverpool is a fantastic city along with Birmingham & Nottingham which are fantastic cities to visit, Manchester obviously tops the lot.... So how you come to the conclusion that Liverpool is one of the worst cities is beyond me... Get thee sen up the northern 1/4 on the ale Cracking day out Been many a time mate, it also has many other cracking places to drink without touching piccadilly... And that's not a euphemism 😉
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 17:06:14 GMT
We have friends who live in Nottingham and we have nights out there quite often…yes it’s a great night out…loads of restaurants and even more pubs and bars. Stoke…I don’t know what to say…my daughter has moved to London for her further education and already she is saying she doesn’t think she will move back to Stoke because there’s nothing to do. My son and his girlfriend are looking at moving to Canada and who can blame them ? I don’t know what the answer is in Stoke. It a hard one to fathom. It felt like another world with the hustle and bustle. The other thing i noticed was the amount of public transport still running as well. Lots of buses and trams. If theres one thing thats probably killed Stoke on trent its the lack of decent transport options. People won't ever go out if they cant get home. I love my live music, and that's how I came to live in Nottingham more than 20 years ago. Went to Rock City for a gig, pulled (or got pulled, whatever!), moved here shortly afterwards and we still live on the outskirts. Now our kids are going out to Nottingham for nightlife. You're dead right about how important public transport is... I don't get out as much these days but if I want to see a band and then go drinking till three a.m. it's a three quid bus ride home running 24 X 7. Takes away the cost and the drama of getting home so you're much more likely to bother going out in the first place. I don't go out in Stoke that much. Eleven is a cracking music venue and they seem like great people. Love the place but it's on an industrial estate without much else in walking distance nearby. It's always going to be tougher to attract crowds when you're fighting uphill like that
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Post by zerps on Oct 14, 2021 17:13:15 GMT
Get thee sen up the northern 1/4 on the ale Cracking day out Been many a time mate, it also has many other cracking places to drink without touching piccadilly... And that's not a euphemism 😉 Spinningfields and deansgate are also corking ale destinations
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 14, 2021 17:31:29 GMT
Been many a time mate, it also has many other cracking places to drink without touching piccadilly... And that's not a euphemism 😉 Spinningfields and deansgate are also corking ale destinations Some great restaurants too. Stoke's lack of a decent internal transport network and it's decent intercity connections are probably it's downfall. I'm not going to waste my time on Hanley etc when I can walk to Hartshill/Newcastle for a local drink and walk to Stoke station to get to umpteen other places for food/drink/gigs etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2021 17:33:21 GMT
Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is. Liverpool is a fantastic city along with Birmingham & Nottingham which are fantastic cities to visit, Manchester obviously tops the lot.... So how you come to the conclusion that Liverpool is one of the worst cities is beyond me... Beyond you or not I used to work there and found it to be depressing beyond belief and an eyesore in general. Certainly worst in the U K in my opinion . Only a few parts of St Louis and Memphis come close to places spent serious time in but like i said is my opinion.
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Post by butlerstbob on Oct 14, 2021 18:30:19 GMT
Liverpool is a fantastic city along with Birmingham & Nottingham which are fantastic cities to visit, Manchester obviously tops the lot.... So how you come to the conclusion that Liverpool is one of the worst cities is beyond me... Beyond you or not I used to work there and found it to be depressing beyond belief and an eyesore in general. Certainly worst in the U K in my opinion . Only a few parts of St Louis and Memphis come close to places spent serious time in but like i said is my opinion. I can't agree sorry, I find Liverpool has something for everybody... Now if you want depressing try Derby, for a place that I would consider much bigger than Stoke or Hanley that place really is a shit hole and depressing!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 14, 2021 18:43:56 GMT
Beyond you or not I used to work there and found it to be depressing beyond belief and an eyesore in general. Certainly worst in the U K in my opinion . Only a few parts of St Louis and Memphis come close to places spent serious time in but like i said is my opinion. I can't agree sorry, I find Liverpool has something for everybody... Now if you want depressing try Derby, for a place that I would consider much bigger than Stoke or Hanley that place really is a shit hole and depressing! I work in Crewe, blimey that’s rough
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Post by newsteadst3 on Oct 14, 2021 19:45:51 GMT
Apart from the city centre it’s no different to any other city if that`s the case why do so many folk go shopping in Manchester and Birmingham , my Mrs. will not go anywhere near Hanley due to feeling not safe. That`s in the middle of the day ffs. Until social issues can be addressed in places like Hanley there is no way forward. I have said it before, you can`t polish a turd. Manchester is vile in some parts either full of cage fighter wannabes with all tattoos snarling of a night. Or take a walk through or by picadilly gardens?? Makes Hanley look like Monaco.
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Post by yyy on Oct 14, 2021 19:48:39 GMT
I always thought we had wychwood Park as a posh part of s-o-t, until I realised it was a crewe postcode.
So where is the poshest part of s-o-t
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 14, 2021 19:52:27 GMT
I always thought we had wychwood Park as a posh part of s-o-t, until I realised it was a crewe postcode. So where is the poshest part of s-o-t The Macari Centre according to the Sentinel
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Post by woodstein on Oct 14, 2021 20:18:11 GMT
Not alone in Stoke being a dead hole. In my nearby Bradford its the same apart from resembling a Grand Prix, but with more crashes than this seasons F1! Sheffield, where I went the other week is another place building up seemingly doing well.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 14, 2021 20:26:22 GMT
The main problem is that everywhere you look Hanley, well Stoke as a whole is a total dump really. Take Hanley as an example the new Cinema complex went up right next to Hope Street and a matter of yards where the drug link place is, it’s eye opening that place is as there’s a little city of druggies camped out. There should be a rolling development plan for Hanley as an entirety not just plonking an all singing and dancing new complex next to a pile of shit then thinking what a wonderful job we’ve done, I’ve only only once used the new complex once and wouldn’t go again as it a shit hole surrounding it and the locals were literally rolling around the pavement on monkey dust, lovely sight. Stoke needs an all encompassing masterplan. One that is put together by very talented but very expensive planning and regeneration experts. They need to be led by a brave no nonsense visionary heading up the councils regeneration plan with a mission of turning Stoke around. They also need to use sweeping compulsory purchase orders over vast swathes of the city to facilitate the vision of the experts. This is what happened with Ancoats/Northern Quarter north of Manchester City Centre with regard to CPO's. Most of the land had been bought up by rich Arabians and the likes on the off chance Manchester won their very ambitious Olympic bid back in the 80s. They didn't and as a result the ownership had become very fragmented and owned by very wealthy people who mostly lived abroad, who had little incentive to bother selling. And Manchester having the balls to mount an Olympic bid paid off in the end as it enabled them to get the Commonwealth Games in 2002 which was a massive boost to the regions profile. Ancoats went from somewhere you wouldn't go even during day time to a place where young ambitious professionals are proud to call their home. Stoke still suffers from the shambles that was Renew trying to do this. Worse still we get chancers like Novus developing the CPO'd land and not delivering the quality a development built off the back of a community forced out deserves.
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Post by Orbs on Oct 14, 2021 20:38:30 GMT
An total eye opener for me. Lots of investment going on, with new buildings going up, and a lot of inner city accommodation. The city centre was absolutely rammed as well. People everywhere enjoying a night out. Pubs, bars and eateries all busy at 11pm. By total contrast i got back to stoke at midnight and it was deader than a mortuary, with the A500 closed and half of longton being held up by scaffolding. Saddens me that the city i was born in and love has fallen into such a state. I’ve been in Nottingham for 30 years having left Stoke to come to Trent Poly. What’s been said about Nottingham is pretty bang on. It’s a cracking night out and there’s loads to do - theatres, ice stadium, arena, castle, the obvious football and cricket grounds, tennis and hockey centres, parks, canals and walks etc. @gifton is spot on mind - the folk here are nowhere near as friendly as the potteries lot. Nowhere near.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Oct 14, 2021 20:59:54 GMT
So the people saying they go to Manchester instead of Hanley to get away from the homeless and the dust heads.
Have you never walked from Piccadilly station to the Arndale?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 14, 2021 21:07:41 GMT
So the people saying they go to Manchester instead of Hanley to get away from the homeless and the dust heads. Have you never walked from Piccadilly station to the Arndale? Go when the Tory party conference is on, they cleared them all from the streets.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 14, 2021 21:20:56 GMT
I can't agree sorry, I find Liverpool has something for everybody... Now if you want depressing try Derby, for a place that I would consider much bigger than Stoke or Hanley that place really is a shit hole and depressing! I work in Crewe, blimey that’s rough I do some work there. Its a fucking hole in a hole. Horrible place full of ignorant wankers with scouse/manc accents
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 7:20:52 GMT
Not a competition but agree Crewe and Derby. As for folk goung shopping in Birmingham etc. I think shopping centres may be a big factor there. Crewe town centre consists of boarded up pound shops a bit like Hanley. They're not alone though, could add dozens more.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Oct 15, 2021 11:46:32 GMT
Liverpool? Fuck me it’s going from the bizarre to the ridiculous now Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is. Are you okay?
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 15, 2021 11:53:39 GMT
We Brits do have an ability to laugh at ourselves. Reading this thread I'm reminded of a guy I know in Hull. Referring to Hull's geographical location, he says "I live in the arm pit of Britain".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 19:36:13 GMT
Liverpool one of the worst cities ever been to. Not ridiculous to tell Stoke as how it is at all , just not a very nice place to look at but so what? No city in that part of the country is. Are you okay? The voices in my head say am fine
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Post by franklin on Oct 15, 2021 20:04:04 GMT
We're light years behind the rest of Europe and even the majority of the world with entertainment and a good night out. Yes there are some amazing places in the UK but they are few and far between.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 16, 2021 8:02:18 GMT
It’s noticeable that many of the cities that are having or have had successful regeneration are also university cities…..Nottingham, Manchester, Bristol, Liverpool, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Southampton and probably more. Keel Uni probably aligns itself more to Newcastle than Stoke on Trent.
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