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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 29, 2021 11:04:43 GMT
That Surridge chance last night shows the difference. Yes he fluffed the shot and it went wide. However if that is Brown in the box he gets nowhere near the ball and the defender gets to it first.
Brown is half decent chasing after lost causes. His movement in the box is awful compared to Surridge.
Surridge should have scored 2 or 3 more goals this season with better finishing. BUT at least he gets on the end of chances. Surely he should be playing instead of Brown if we want to actually score goals.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 29, 2021 14:31:20 GMT
Tell us the name of a proven premiership fringe player ( if such an animal even exists) we could have feasibly got ? Tbh you are coming across as a bit of a troll... I would have taken any of Preston's strikers over our currently fit strikers. who also didn't score and never troubled our defenders? based on what?
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Post by kustokie on Sept 29, 2021 14:40:43 GMT
He’s the only center forward with pace and he doesn’t get into the right position some of the time. If he was a better finisher and had better ball control he’d not be playing in this division.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 29, 2021 14:54:37 GMT
At least the guy has a bit of durability about him unlike our other permanently injured crocks. He’s worked hard again tonight. We’ll said, and he’s improved so much in six months too. Too harshly treated. Given fan support and good management Brown could be a great part of the team.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 29, 2021 14:55:58 GMT
He is absolutely useless- in fact one of the worst players I’ve seen pull on a Stoke shirt. Jesus Christ, more petulant arse gravy from somebody who has "followed" the club for a couple of months. Maybe a year most. Grow up Wow. Strong statement given the team last year and a certain striker now at Wycombe
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Sept 29, 2021 15:02:52 GMT
Worryingly this management paid 2 minion pounds for him We've paid significantly more for much worse under the watch of others. That’s not the point though is it?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 29, 2021 17:24:00 GMT
I would have taken any of Preston's strikers over our currently fit strikers. who also didn't score and never troubled our defenders? based on what? They got nothing because we dominated. On the other hand our currently fit strikers have been presented with so many chances lately and done nothing. I don't rate Brown. Surridge looks like a decent bench player who will poach goals, but he's not a starter. We look very light there until Campbell and Sima are fit
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Post by beechwood14 on Sept 29, 2021 17:59:34 GMT
Brown needs to save his energy chasing lost causes on his own up front and improve his hold up play to benefit the team
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Post by samba :) on Sept 29, 2021 18:02:28 GMT
That Surridge chance last night shows the difference. Yes he fluffed the shot and it went wide. However if that is Brown in the box he gets nowhere near the ball and the defender gets to it first. Brown is half decent chasing after lost causes. His movement in the box is awful compared to Surridge. Surridge should have scored 2 or 3 more goals this season with better finishing. BUT at least he gets on the end of chances. Surely he should be playing instead of Brown if we want to actually score goals. Gonna stick my balls out and say surridge wouldn’t of got anywhere near browns header against Huddersfield
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 29, 2021 18:08:20 GMT
Hard worker, brings a lot to the team, needs to work on his finishing and for me, his biggest frustration is his decision making. Often holds onto the ball too long, doesn’t see a pass or picks the wrong one.
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 29, 2021 18:17:57 GMT
Brown has been massively improved this season and that bears out what MoN said about him being a "work in progress". I have been particularly impressed with his heading. He wins far more heading duels than he loses
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Post by george2again on Sept 29, 2021 22:14:02 GMT
He’s the only center forward with pace and he doesn’t get into the right position some of the time. If he was a better finisher and had better ball control he’d not be playing in this division. I actually think it’s a myth that he’s actually quick.have you seen him roar past someone with pace ? Most defenders cope with his pace he just unsettles a few with perseverance really.
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Post by george2again on Sept 29, 2021 22:16:38 GMT
Brown needs to save his energy chasing lost causes on his own up front and improve his hold up play to benefit the team Or dare we say it get in the 18 yard box and actually be a threat on goal.
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Post by george2again on Sept 29, 2021 22:18:21 GMT
Hard worker, brings a lot to the team, needs to work on his finishing and for me, his biggest frustration is his decision making. Often holds onto the ball too long, doesn’t see a pass or picks the wrong one. Basically your saying he’s rubbish there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 2:00:59 GMT
That Surridge chance last night shows the difference. Yes he fluffed the shot and it went wide. However if that is Brown in the box he gets nowhere near the ball and the defender gets to it first. Brown is half decent chasing after lost causes. His movement in the box is awful compared to Surridge. Surridge should have scored 2 or 3 more goals this season with better finishing. BUT at least he gets on the end of chances. Surely he should be playing instead of Brown if we want to actually score goals. Depending on the type of game you play, I think Surridge, Brown and Powell was a great combination. Surridge and Brown on their own isn’t as good, but as a three they compliment each other. All do the high press. Powell gets in between players, could see him finishing as top scorer for us this year. Surridge gets in the box well, should definitely be scoring more. Brown runs the channels and creates a lot of space by drawing defenders out of position to defend causes they wouldn’t have to otherwise bother with. I know absolutely nothing about Sima. Does anyone? I’m only really excited about the unknown with him, in the same way I was about Matondo etc. Campbell certainly feels like the jewel to the crown. A lot rests on his shoulders though to make that difference.
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Post by george2again on Sept 30, 2021 6:11:03 GMT
The reality is that Brown and Surridge won’t fire us out of this league end of. Not good enough.
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 30, 2021 7:51:59 GMT
Brown needs to have some confidence and drive towards goal when he gets that half a yard in front of the defender with space in front of him, there was a couple of occasions on Tuesday night where there was a ball played through or over the top towards Brown, where had he had a little more conviction/confidence/drive he would have been bearing down on goal, instead he takes too many touches, has to check inside looking as if to shoot or pass it on before the defenders managed to block the shot or dispossess him.
I'm convinced had Sima been on the pitch, from the little glimpses we've seen of him he'd have done what was needed and would've scored or at least created a better opportunity for himself or others to score.
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 30, 2021 11:46:07 GMT
Brown needs to have some confidence and drive towards goal when he gets that half a yard in front of the defender with space in front of him, there was a couple of occasions on Tuesday night where there was a ball played through or over the top towards Brown, where had he had a little more conviction/confidence/drive he would have been bearing down on goal, instead he takes too many touches, has to check inside looking as if to shoot or pass it on before the defenders managed to block the shot or dispossess him. I'm convinced had Sima been on the pitch, from the little glimpses we've seen of him he'd have done what was needed and would've scored or at least created a better opportunity for himself or others to score. Brown’s control of a ball often lets him down. He often has to take several touches simply to get control of the ball
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Post by george2again on Sept 30, 2021 11:48:34 GMT
Brown needs to have some confidence and drive towards goal when he gets that half a yard in front of the defender with space in front of him, there was a couple of occasions on Tuesday night where there was a ball played through or over the top towards Brown, where had he had a little more conviction/confidence/drive he would have been bearing down on goal, instead he takes too many touches, has to check inside looking as if to shoot or pass it on before the defenders managed to block the shot or dispossess him. I'm convinced had Sima been on the pitch, from the little glimpses we've seen of him he'd have done what was needed and would've scored or at least created a better opportunity for himself or others to score. I’m not just courage though it’s ability as well. Like Carruthers you would put money on him missing when bearing down on goal. Not good enough pure and simple.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Sept 30, 2021 14:14:36 GMT
I have seen an improvement this season but that has come from a low skill level in the first place. He's just like an annoying little fly to most defenders who swat him away with ease. There have been a couple of instances when he has been put through either level or just in front of chunky defenders and they have caught him before he has controlled it and got away. I suppose a work in progress but never in a million years is he good enough for a top Championship side and even further away from Premier league. Our best bet is to try and bring him on as far as possible then sell him.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 30, 2021 15:48:03 GMT
He’s the only center forward with pace and he doesn’t get into the right position some of the time. If he was a better finisher and had better ball control he’d not be playing in this division. I actually think it’s a myth that he’s actually quick.have you seen him roar past someone with pace ? Most defenders cope with his pace he just unsettles a few with perseverance really. My observations as well!
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 30, 2021 16:02:36 GMT
We had a thread like this about Mama every time we didn't win a game in the promotion season, even though he was absolutely pivotal to the system we played.
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Post by lordb on Sept 30, 2021 16:58:14 GMT
Can see the criticisms of Brown The arguments are not without merit
Still play him tomorrow
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 1, 2021 19:48:08 GMT
He is a shocking football who never stops running, need more than that if we’re getting anywhere near the playoffs
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 1, 2021 20:43:04 GMT
He is a shocking football who never stops running, need more than that if we’re getting anywhere near the playoffs How did your 1-4 prediction work out mate?
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 1, 2021 21:01:00 GMT
He is a shocking football who never stops running, need more than that if we’re getting anywhere near the playoffs Agreed. He’s a useless football. He never stops moving for a start, which makes him very hard to kick.
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Post by hyaduck on Oct 1, 2021 21:03:31 GMT
He is a shocking football who never stops running, need more than that if we’re getting anywhere near the playoffs How did your 1-4 prediction work out mate? That’s why I don’t bet, not a gambler never have been, apart from the slots at school. It’s hard too predict, I thought they’d turn us over but I hold my hand up as it was a great performance from us. But going back to Brown, he is a woeful footballer. We all have off days but that performance was shocking.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 1, 2021 21:04:54 GMT
Brown is shit but why post this after a great win?
Just enjoy the moment guys
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 1, 2021 21:05:01 GMT
Disappointing tonight.
Passing was horrible.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 1, 2021 21:16:38 GMT
How did your 1-4 prediction work out mate? That’s why I don’t bet, not a gambler never have been, apart from the slots at school. It’s hard too predict, I thought they’d turn us over but I hold my hand up as it was a great performance from us. But going back to Brown, he is a woeful footballer. We all have off days but that performance was shocking. It was a great performance. Will it make you any more positive about things do you think?
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