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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:05:21 GMT
Why didn’t our inept manager look at fringe premiership strikers on loan instead of spunking 4+M on two donkeys? He chased Delap which was never going happen, then Sima who isn’t proved. Name names??
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 28, 2021 21:06:16 GMT
I would have taken any of Preston's strikers over our currently fit strikers. I think we just need to bite the bullet until Campbell and Fletcher are back as both will hopefully improve things that end of the pitch.And Powell is on a pretty decent scoring run. It's so frustrating, a fit Campbell and Fletcher, and hopefully Sima will be decent, and we would have put Barnsley and Preston away easy. I can't help but feel we've blown a great opportunity in this recent run of games. I can't see us punishing west brom, a team who don't seem to miss chances
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Post by hyaduck on Sept 28, 2021 21:06:42 GMT
I would have taken any of Preston's strikers over our currently fit strikers. I think we just need to bite the bullet until Campbell and Fletcher are back as both will hopefully improve things that end of the pitch.And Powell is on a pretty decent scoring run. Not a troll mate, I’m just frustrated that I can see we won’t be getting outta this league with MON anytime soon
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2021 21:06:58 GMT
Worryingly this management paid 2 minion pounds for him We've paid significantly more for much worse under the watch of others. Relatively though now this is a lot of money for us. Add the 4m for Surridge. It’s very poor.
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Post by hyaduck on Sept 28, 2021 21:08:28 GMT
Worryingly this management paid 2 minion pounds for him We've paid significantly more for much worse under the watch of others. Yes and we had more money then
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Post by george2again on Sept 28, 2021 21:09:53 GMT
I think as normal, if we had have won that game there wouldn’t have been too much criticism of Brown. A win masks ability and performance massively. He is the prime example. When results dry up the scrutiny of Brown will really start as he is a talentless footballer. To be fair he’s not someone to lead the line and was clearly asked to do so MON could play Vrancic and Powell. The midfield puzzle strikes again. He’s not getting sawyers, Vrancic and Powell in midfield so he moves Powell up top.
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Post by milky on Sept 28, 2021 21:11:42 GMT
I think we just need to bite the bullet until Campbell and Fletcher are back as both will hopefully improve things that end of the pitch.And Powell is on a pretty decent scoring run. Not a troll mate, I’m just frustrated that I can see we won’t be getting outta this league with MON anytime soon Fair enough. You may be right in the long run.Who knows. I'm just happy to see us actually create chances after last seasons borefest. We may well come up short but we are going in the right direction.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 28, 2021 21:12:32 GMT
To be fair to the lad he puts himself about, presses well from the front, chases down lost causes and hassles defenders. He's just not clinical enough or good enough from a technical level to push us up to the next level.
That's the frustrating thing from this season, if we had someone half clinical up top, we would be at least 5 points better off and would be right up there. We need Tyrese back as soon as possible. Got to be on bench Friday surely - we are screaming out for a clinical finisher, and he's come through 3 u23 games now so has got to be there or there-abouts.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 28, 2021 21:14:51 GMT
If MON insists on playing Brown he should be on the right of a front 3. Gouranga.
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Post by milky on Sept 28, 2021 21:15:08 GMT
I think we just need to bite the bullet until Campbell and Fletcher are back as both will hopefully improve things that end of the pitch.And Powell is on a pretty decent scoring run. It's so frustrating, a fit Campbell and Fletcher, and hopefully Sima will be decent, and we would have put Barnsley and Preston away easy. I can't help but feel we've blown a great opportunity in this recent run of games. I can't see us punishing west brom, a team who don't seem to miss chances They were ruthless tonight it seems but a couple of weeks back they drew 1-1...at Preston! Inconsistency seems to sum up this league.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:16:28 GMT
We've paid significantly more for much worse under the watch of others. Relatively though now this is a lot of money for us. Add the 4m for Surridge. It’s very poor. I disagree. 12m for Vokes and 12m for Afobe I'd say we've had way more output from Brown than either of those pair. As for Surridge I'm willing to give him more than 60 days before I decide he's shit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:17:39 GMT
We've paid significantly more for much worse under the watch of others. Yes and we had more money then Oh, that's okay then.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2021 21:18:41 GMT
Relatively though now this is a lot of money for us. Add the 4m for Surridge. It’s very poor. I disagree. 12m for Vokes and 12m for Afobe I'd say we've had way more output from Brown than either of those pair. As for Surridge I'm willing to give him more than 60 days before I decide he's shit. We have but why compare shit with shit? 2m for us now is about 6/7m when we bought them. So it’s not far off either. Surridge isn’t shit. He’s a fourth choice Champo striker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:26:36 GMT
I disagree. 12m for Vokes and 12m for Afobe I'd say we've had way more output from Brown than either of those pair. As for Surridge I'm willing to give him more than 60 days before I decide he's shit. We have but why compare shit with shit? 2m for us now is about 6/7m when we bought them. So it’s not far off either. Surridge isn’t shit. He’s a fourth choice Champo striker. I'm not comparing shit with shit. I'm defending Brown and MON. The post I responded to was calling out MON for wasting cash on Brown. I dont think this is fair because it's not been a total waste. Browns has played an awful lot of minutes in the best start to the season we've had since relegation. Results and performance wise. The other two I mentioned were a complete waste. Of 12m quid. It reeks of finding something to bash O'Neil with while were 4th.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:28:15 GMT
But he is. He literally is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2021 21:28:35 GMT
We have but why compare shit with shit? 2m for us now is about 6/7m when we bought them. So it’s not far off either. Surridge isn’t shit. He’s a fourth choice Champo striker. I'm not comparing shit with shit. I'm defending Brown and MON. The post I responded to was calling out MON for wasting cash on Brown. I dont think this is fair because it's not been a total waste. Browns has played an awful lot of minutes in the best start to the season we've had since relegation. Results and performance wise. The other two I mentioned were a complete waste. Of 12m quid. It reeks of finding something to bash O'Neil with while were 4th. Brown is shit, Vokes is shit. That’s comparing shit with shit. You should be able to get someone who ca trap a ball for 2 million quid.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:29:24 GMT
He is absolutely useless- in fact one of the worst players I’ve seen pull on a Stoke shirt. Jesus Christ, more petulant arse gravy from somebody who has "followed" the club for a couple of months. Maybe a year most. Grow up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:31:11 GMT
Over 123,000 posts now. Prolific.
Whilst others dedicate their time to make something of themselves (say professional footballer) others decided to dedicate their entire lives to an Internet message board.
Wonder who the winner is here...
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 28, 2021 21:31:41 GMT
I like him but don’t think he did anything right tonight. He tends to shoot when he should pass and pass when he should shoot.
He’s either an 8/10 where you think it’s finally clicking into place, or a 4/10 where nothing seems to go right, like tonight. Sometimes he looks like a real handful and causes all sorts of problems and then sometimes he’s about as threatening as a nun.
But I still like him and think he’s improved loads generally. He’ll come good for us and be an important tool in certain games.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2021 21:33:42 GMT
Over 123,000 posts now. Prolific. Whilst others dedicate their time to make something of themselves (say professional footballer) others decided to dedicate their entire lives to an Internet message board. Wonder who the winner is here... Don’t delete now WD 😂 heads going… And all over such a talentless player. Pick your battles.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 28, 2021 21:35:37 GMT
Why didn’t our inept manager look at fringe premiership strikers on loan instead of spunking 4+M on two donkeys? He chased Delap which was never going happen, then Sima who isn’t proved. Is this the same inept manager who has got this team to 4th whilst playing both these 'donkeys' regularly? Just asking like.
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Post by george2again on Sept 28, 2021 21:38:28 GMT
If MON insists on playing Brown he should be on the right of a front 3. Gouranga. He’s a task type player, not one who is able to improvise and is blessed with a football brain and skill. I mentioned previously wing back be somewhere he would be better suited if he improves his crossing. Got the engine.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 28, 2021 21:38:33 GMT
He is absolutely useless- in fact one of the worst players I’ve seen pull on a Stoke shirt. Jesus Christ, more petulant arse gravy from somebody who has "followed" the club for a couple of months. Maybe a year most. Grow up I've followed them 50 years and he's not wrong he's awful, one in 10 says it all for a centre forward attitude is one thing but performances suggest he's just not good enough
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 28, 2021 21:38:39 GMT
I think he's closer than people think to cracking it. The margins are tiny at this level.
The problem is he shouldn't be leading the line as much as he is, and hopefully with the return of certain players he'll be used more sparingly, away from the spotlight to be able to take a step back with the coaches and really polish his game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2021 21:40:36 GMT
I think he's closer than people think to cracking it. The margins are tiny at this level. The problem is he shouldn't be leading the line as much as he is, and hopefully with the return of certain players he'll be used more sparingly, away from the spotlight to be able to take a step back with the coaches and really polish his game. That’s true. And with Fletcher’s fitness he will play far more than he should. But if we can keep him, Sima and Campbell for a spell then Surridge and/or Brown should be struggling to make the bench. Fletcher is much better than both still.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 28, 2021 21:40:57 GMT
I think we just need to bite the bullet until Campbell and Fletcher are back as both will hopefully improve things that end of the pitch.And Powell is on a pretty decent scoring run. It's so frustrating, a fit Campbell and Fletcher, and hopefully Sima will be decent, and we would have put Barnsley and Preston away easy. I can't help but feel we've blown a great opportunity in this recent run of games. I can't see us punishing west brom, a team who don't seem to miss chances Don't miss chances???? Did you watch them at home to Derby? They could have won that game 8-0 and Derby's keeper barely made a save. They MISSED a hatful. This is a pretty shit league and we and the vast majority of the other teams (including West Brom) are in it for a reason.
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 28, 2021 21:41:27 GMT
Thought some of his link up play was really good at times, yes he made poor decisions, but he's improving fast.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 28, 2021 21:42:24 GMT
Started the game well. Got worse the longer it went on.
You could draw the lad a map to the goal and he still wouldn't find it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 21:43:17 GMT
I'm not comparing shit with shit. I'm defending Brown and MON. The post I responded to was calling out MON for wasting cash on Brown. I dont think this is fair because it's not been a total waste. Browns has played an awful lot of minutes in the best start to the season we've had since relegation. Results and performance wise. The other two I mentioned were a complete waste. Of 12m quid. It reeks of finding something to bash O'Neil with while were 4th. Brown is shit, Vokes is shit. That’s comparing shit with shit. You should be able to get someone who ca trap a ball for 2 million quid. Again, judging by some of the shite we've spent 12m on in the past I'm not sure why spending 10m less should get you better.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2021 21:44:27 GMT
Brown is shit, Vokes is shit. That’s comparing shit with shit. You should be able to get someone who ca trap a ball for 2 million quid. Again, judging by some of the shite we've spent 12m on in the past I'm not sure why spending 10m less should get you better. You’re judging it wrong 😂 Most teams in this league have signed better strikers for cheaper. We have 2 for instance.
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