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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 22, 2021 9:20:49 GMT
Please fuck off😡
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 22, 2021 9:58:15 GMT
This does figure quite highly on my couldn't give a fuckometer, lots of bigger problems for the game (punters getting ripped off by over-rates, creating a pathway into the game for players from minority groups, finding some fuckers who can actually hit the ball occasionally etc etc), incredibly pointless and unimportant but hurts no one costs nothing so a big shrug of the shoulders from me.
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Post by redstriper on Sept 22, 2021 10:08:55 GMT
Its a sign of the times and inevitable, however I'm 60 and still playing - and will always want to be referred to as batsman. The first person who calls me a batter will be in for a batter-ing Incidentally - not seen the same clamour to replace con-man with con person ?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 10:15:15 GMT
Its a sign of the times and inevitable, however I'm 60 and still playing - and will always want to be referred to as batsman. The first person who calls me a batter will be in for a batter-ing Incidentally - not seen the same clamour to replace con-man with con person ? It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid.......
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 22, 2021 10:19:52 GMT
Maybe they’d be better off spending there time figuring out How to compensate all those people who lost money on The last test And I don’t mean just ticket money All because the Indian players wanted to fuck off early to prostitute themselves to a pyjama clad bash
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 22, 2021 10:21:21 GMT
Its a sign of the times and inevitable, however I'm 60 and still playing - and will always want to be referred to as batsman. The first person who calls me a batter will be in for a batter-ing Incidentally - not seen the same clamour to replace con-man with con person ? It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid....... Why not woman of the match? I am assuming they are all women right, or could I be deemed offensive to trans people with that assumption.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 22, 2021 10:22:34 GMT
Its a sign of the times and inevitable, however I'm 60 and still playing - and will always want to be referred to as batsman. The first person who calls me a batter will be in for a batter-ing Incidentally - not seen the same clamour to replace con-man with con person ? It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid....... Why should we change our language Don bradman will always be the world’s best batsman
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 22, 2021 10:27:04 GMT
It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid....... Why should we change our language Don bradman will always be the world’s best batsman Probably, but Gower for me was my favourite to watch, such style, what a BATSMAN. Followed by Border and Lara. All left handers which is interesting.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 22, 2021 10:31:12 GMT
Why should we change our language Don bradman will always be the world’s best batsman Probably, but Gower for me was my favourite to watch, such style, what a BATSMAN. I’d not disagree on the merits of gower Maybe I should of probably say bradman was potentially the greatest sportsman ever if you look into the sheer distance between him and the next in the averages But one thing both gower and bradman had in common they weren’t batters
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Post by stokeuk474 on Sept 22, 2021 10:33:46 GMT
I also think the term 'batter' has come in more since the introduction of T20 and Hundred cricket. It suggests someone who goes out there and 'bats' it or 'hits' it.
For me, the term batsman suggests orthodox, elegant, technical cricket shots played in a very traditional cricket standard.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 10:38:10 GMT
It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid....... Why should we change our language Don bradman will always be the world’s best batsman When did I say you should change your language? It will evolve naturally when dinosaurs like you die out anyway.......
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 10:38:54 GMT
It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid....... Why not woman of the match? I am assuming they are all women right, or could I be deemed offensive to trans people with that assumption. They're 6, 7 and 8 year old girls........
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 22, 2021 10:41:46 GMT
Why should we change our language Don bradman will always be the world’s best batsman When did I say you should change your language? It will evolve naturally when dinosaurs like you die out anyway....... I intend to return in the hundredth sequel of Jurassic Park
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 22, 2021 11:03:03 GMT
Why not woman of the match? I am assuming they are all women right, or could I be deemed offensive to trans people with that assumption. They're 6, 7 and 8 year old girls........ Well call them what they are then, girl of the match. But note that when boys win it they still get called man of the match not boy.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 11:07:16 GMT
They're 6, 7 and 8 year old girls........ Well call them what they are then, girl of the match. But note that when boys win it they still get called man of the match not boy. You have a problem with "Player of the Match?" I wouldn't worry about it personally.......
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 22, 2021 11:16:05 GMT
No point making a fuss really. It’s not like anyone is going be thrown out of the ground for using the word ‘batsman’ at a men’s cricket match. It’s just a bit of tick-boxing to please the easily offended.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 22, 2021 11:16:41 GMT
They're 6, 7 and 8 year old girls........ Well call them what they are then, girl of the match. But note that when boys win it they still get called man of the match not boy. It’ll be MVP before you know it👀
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 22, 2021 11:18:05 GMT
To be fair I’ve heard a lot of commentators use the term “batters” in the last few years since the rise in popularity of the women’s game and of course the rise of the permanently offended brigade😉
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 22, 2021 11:22:30 GMT
Well call them what they are then, girl of the match. But note that when boys win it they still get called man of the match not boy. You have a problem with "Player of the Match?" I wouldn't worry about it personally....... No I don't have a problem with it at all. I just find it amusing thinking of you stumbling over your words in front of a group of young girls not knowing what to call them for fear of offending someone. Its all a bit silly really. Call them what you like, I don't care. Maybe just ask them what they would like to be called, would seem reasonable.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 11:26:41 GMT
You have a problem with "Player of the Match?" I wouldn't worry about it personally....... No I don't have a problem with it at all. I just find it amusing thinking of you stumbling over your words in front of a group of young girls not knowing what to call them for fear of offending someone. Its all a bit silly really. Call them what you like, I don't care. Maybe just ask them what they would like to be called, would seem reasonable. I don't stumble over my words and have no worries about offending anyone. I think you've over thought this made up scenario if I'm honest........
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Post by riverman on Sept 22, 2021 11:35:16 GMT
Wouldn't the batter be the one who bats the batty boy?!👬😚
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 22, 2021 11:40:45 GMT
No I don't have a problem with it at all. I just find it amusing thinking of you stumbling over your words in front of a group of young girls not knowing what to call them for fear of offending someone. Its all a bit silly really. Call them what you like, I don't care. Maybe just ask them what they would like to be called, would seem reasonable. I don't stumble over my words and have no worries about offending anyone. I think you've over thought this made up scenario in your head if I'm honest........ I may have added the "stumbling over words" but you are the one saying you find yourself trying to "neutralise" what you are saying in front of girls. My advice would be to call them what they are and not worry about it. Because finding ways to "neutralise" your speech tells me you are worried about it. Maybe it is you who over thinks things
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2021 11:44:26 GMT
Woman's Hour on Radio 4 must be in danger .
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 22, 2021 11:49:19 GMT
Woman's Hour on Radio 4 must be in danger . Doubt it, the other 23 are the Mens Hours.....probably
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 22, 2021 11:52:58 GMT
Its a sign of the times and inevitable, however I'm 60 and still playing - and will always want to be referred to as batsman. The first person who calls me a batter will be in for a batter-ing Incidentally - not seen the same clamour to replace con-man with con person ? It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid....... Agree with this. Language evolves. For various reasons. We’ll get used to it. Not something to get hot under the collar about. In this instance, it’s a good change IMO. On the other hand, I reckon they should leave Third Man as it is.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 11:55:37 GMT
I don't stumble over my words and have no worries about offending anyone. I think you've over thought this made up scenario in your head if I'm honest........ I may have added the "stumbling over words" but you are the one saying you find yourself trying to "neutralise" what you are saying in front of girls. My advice would be to call them what they are and not worry about it. Because finding ways to "neutralise" your speech tells me you are worried about it. Maybe it is you who over thinks things I "neutralise" it because sometimes they are all girl sessions, sometimes it's mixed boys and girls sessions as they often can be at that age group. It's not something I'm worried about or overthinking that's for sure, but constantly using masculine words and phrases whilst talking to girls just strikes me as a bit odd. Feminine or gender neutral language are both obvious alternatives.......
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 11:56:57 GMT
It's hard for old uns like us to change our language and I always use phrases such as batsmen, linesman, policeman, fireman, headmaster often without thinking. But I also do a bit of coaching for a girls football team and do find myself trying to neutralise certain phrases like Man of The Match to Player of the Match etc. Ultimately for the next couple of generations they will slip seamlessly into the new language and no one will bat an eyelid....... Agree with this. Language evolves. For various reasons. We’ll get used to it. Not something to get hot under the collar about. In this instance, it’s a good change IMO. On the other hand, I reckon they should leave Third Man as it is. What about bowling a "chinaman" Potentially offensive to both women and men from China
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 22, 2021 12:04:48 GMT
Agree with this. Language evolves. For various reasons. We’ll get used to it. Not something to get hot under the collar about. In this instance, it’s a good change IMO. On the other hand, I reckon they should leave Third Man as it is. What about bowling a "chinaman" Potentially offensive to both women and men from China That term was consigned to the bin back in 2018 ( link). I’m also quite concerned that Short Leg may be thought to be prejudiced against dwarfs, so that might also be in the firing line. Not to mention silly short leg being a further slight.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 22, 2021 12:08:23 GMT
What about bowling a "chinaman" Potentially offensive to both women and men from China That term was consigned to the bin back in 2018 ( link). I’m also quite concerned that Short Leg may be thought to be prejudiced against dwarfs, so that might also be in the firing line. Not to mention silly short leg being a further slight. All jokes aside I do believe even for those of us of a certain age there's a difference between ripping up the language we've always used and trying to be inclusive when talking to people of a certain sex, race or whatever it may be. I'm sure I'll be accused of being "woke" for merely suggesting such a thing.......
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 22, 2021 12:10:53 GMT
What about bowling a "chinaman" Potentially offensive to both women and men from China That term was consigned to the bin back in 2018 ( link). I’m also quite concerned that Short Leg may be thought to be prejudiced against dwarfs, so that might also be in the firing line. Not to mention silly short leg being a further slight. I think wicket keeper would be changed to wicket chaperone or acquaintance. The thought of being kept by a man in this day and age is so patronising👀
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