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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2021 19:33:12 GMT
For me, his impact as a substitute has been a breath of fresh air. He gets the ball and attacks the full back. Looks good technically and a good brain. Shouldn’t we “rest” Tymon for a few games and see what Doughty can do in the same position? I know Tymon has done well but maybe that’s just an “exceeding expectations” point of view. My view anyway, we need to get Doughty into the side to see what he’s about.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 18, 2021 19:36:23 GMT
I think we should ditch the three at the back and have both Tymon and Doughty on. Wilmot is proving a liability on the left of that back 3. Ditch it
Yes Doughty looked lightning fast and very strong today, very impressive
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 19:36:50 GMT
For me, his impact as a substitute has been a breath of fresh air. He gets the ball and attacks the full back. Looks good technically and a good brain. Shouldn’t we “rest” Tymon for a few games and see what Doughty can do in the same position? I know Tymon has done well but maybe that’s just an “exceeding expectations” point of view. My view anyway, we need to get Doughty into the side to see what he’s about. He has to make more of his games in the cup. Has done bits, but not torn teams up. I agree, he has shown glimpses of true quality. Today he brought a very heavy pass down when running at full pelt. It was a great touch under pressure. However, he needs more than glimpses to take over the spot of Tymon, whose essentially been our best attacking player this year (after Smith).
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2021 19:39:04 GMT
For me, his impact as a substitute has been a breath of fresh air. He gets the ball and attacks the full back. Looks good technically and a good brain. Shouldn’t we “rest” Tymon for a few games and see what Doughty can do in the same position? I know Tymon has done well but maybe that’s just an “exceeding expectations” point of view. My view anyway, we need to get Doughty into the side to see what he’s about. He has to make more of his games in the cup. Has done bits, but not torn teams up. I agree, he has shown glimpses of true quality. Today he brought a very heavy pass down when running at full pelt. It was a great touch under pressure. However, he needs more than glimpses to take over the spot of Tymon, whose essentially been our best attacking player this year (after Smith). But are we not a bit blinkered in that Tymon and Smith have done better than we thought therefore they must play? We bought this guy to play left wing back, we need to check him out, he’s looked very good.
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Post by Veritas on Sept 18, 2021 19:43:36 GMT
Next two games Doughty as RWB instead of Ince who despite his goal today is an awful choice in that position.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 19:44:07 GMT
He has to make more of his games in the cup. Has done bits, but not torn teams up. I agree, he has shown glimpses of true quality. Today he brought a very heavy pass down when running at full pelt. It was a great touch under pressure. However, he needs more than glimpses to take over the spot of Tymon, whose essentially been our best attacking player this year (after Smith). But are we not a bit blinkered in that Tymon and Smith have done better than we thought therefore they must play? We bought this guy to play left wing back, we need to check him out, he’s looked very good. Smith has 4 assists this season. I think it’s not blinkered in his case. Tymon’s impact on the game has been less this week, but still very decent overall. I didn’t expect him to come good at all, but he has done so far this season. Do you drop him when he’s still firing pretty well? If Doughty does well versus Watford and Tymon has a poor game versus his old club, that’s when I’d replace him to be honest.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 18, 2021 19:45:12 GMT
He has to make more of his games in the cup. Has done bits, but not torn teams up. I agree, he has shown glimpses of true quality. Today he brought a very heavy pass down when running at full pelt. It was a great touch under pressure. However, he needs more than glimpses to take over the spot of Tymon, whose essentially been our best attacking player this year (after Smith). But are we not a bit blinkered in that Tymon and Smith have done better than we thought therefore they must play? We bought this guy to play left wing back, we need to check him out, he’s looked very good. If they're in form they must play, why drop them if they're playing well.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2021 19:48:00 GMT
But are we not a bit blinkered in that Tymon and Smith have done better than we thought therefore they must play? We bought this guy to play left wing back, we need to check him out, he’s looked very good. If they're in form they must play, why drop them if they're playing well. I just feel if there’s potentially a better player waiting for a chance he should be used. Not slagging off Tymon or Smith for a minute, think they’ve both been good but we have a player who was signed to play LWB, give him a chance🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 19:52:01 GMT
If they're in form they must play, why drop them if they're playing well. I just feel if there’s potentially a better player waiting for a chance he should be used. Not slagging off Tymon or Smith for a minute, think they’ve both been good but we have a player who was signed to play LWB, give him a chance🤷🏻♂️ I think it’s a fair point mate. I was surprised Doughty wasn’t used at some point this week. I feel that the 3 match turnaround is MON’s biggest weakness. That said, i reckon it would be easier to do when Doughty gets a goal/an assist in one of his cameos.
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Post by slother on Sept 18, 2021 21:40:39 GMT
I love the look of Doughty and think he deserves a start. With Tymon being in great form I think I'd play Doughty on the left of central midfield. He's fast, strong and tenacious, plus Josh often cuts inside anyway leaving Alfie to bomb past on the overlap.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 18, 2021 21:43:55 GMT
Hes another worry as he’s another one of this managements signings not making a difference our best performing players were sll here when management arrived , decent coaching yes but jury’s out at best on recruitment
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 18, 2021 21:47:55 GMT
He should be starting games now
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 21:57:35 GMT
Hes another worry as he’s another one of this managements signings not making a difference our best performing players were sll here when management arrived , decent coaching yes but jury’s out at best on recruitment Or you could play Ostigard at right back with either Doughty or Tymon at left back (the other at left wing). Bring in Wilmot and Souttar in defence and just use Clucas/Sawyers/Vrancic, Allen and Powell as the three in the middle for a few games.
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Post by Gods on Sept 18, 2021 22:05:36 GMT
Hes another worry as he’s another one of this managements signings not making a difference our best performing players were sll here when management arrived , decent coaching yes but jury’s out at best on recruitment MON busted a gut to get him here with much fanfare in January and yet clearly on having a look has no interest in starting him. It's another strange one.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 18, 2021 22:14:28 GMT
Hes another worry as he’s another one of this managements signings not making a difference our best performing players were sll here when management arrived , decent coaching yes but jury’s out at best on recruitment MON busted a gut to get him here with much fanfare in January and yet clearly on having a look has no interest in starting him. It's another strange one. or is he not fully fit yet and easing him into it? He has had a bad injury and from the quality weve seen from him he would surely be starting
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Post by Ron on Sept 19, 2021 0:15:41 GMT
Was really bright when he came on. Let’s not forget he’s coming back from injury too. Think he’s starting to show the signs of a useful addition. He really should have started today against a team devoid of pace
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Post by callas12 on Sept 19, 2021 0:36:24 GMT
I think we should ditch the three at the back and have both Tymon and Doughty on. Wilmot is proving a liability on the left of that back 3. Ditch it Yes Doughty looked lightning fast and very strong today, very impressive I definitely think the 352 system has a place but today from the outset I'd of definitely started with 4 at the back. Either Chester or Batth in the centre today along side Souttar would have made things alot more solid at the back. At the end of the day Derby have absolutely nothing to lose & are going to attack at will in every game from now on. They've been proper backed into a corner & they just need to collect points & lots of them when & wherever they can. Trying to play out from the back with only 3x natural defenders was tactically naive against a 4231 formation that intercepted alot of the ball in midfield from wayward passes by ourselves.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 19, 2021 0:51:17 GMT
He has to make more of his games in the cup. Has done bits, but not torn teams up. I agree, he has shown glimpses of true quality. Today he brought a very heavy pass down when running at full pelt. It was a great touch under pressure. However, he needs more than glimpses to take over the spot of Tymon, whose essentially been our best attacking player this year (after Smith). But are we not a bit blinkered in that Tymon and Smith have done better than we thought therefore they must play? We bought this guy to play left wing back, we need to check him out, he’s looked very good. The problem is all the opposing teams know our game plan, which makes it easy to defend. The last three games have been exactly the same - the opposition has closed down the passing lanes to the wing backs and we have no Plan B.
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Post by sensiblestokie on Sept 19, 2021 1:02:20 GMT
How Tom Ince gets shoehorned into RWB when Doughty is available is beyond me. It baffles me that someone who is paid to manage a team can end up sending a side out with Ince as a right back.
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Post by hardcastle on Sept 19, 2021 7:40:34 GMT
I love the look of Doughty and think he deserves a start. With Tymon being in great form I think I'd play Doughty on the left of central midfield. He's fast, strong and tenacious, plus Josh often cuts inside anyway leaving Alfie to bomb past on the overlap. Yeah, but who's the better crosser, Tymon or Alfie? If Tymon then he'd be better out wide, wouldn't he. Alfie's pace, if that's his principal asset, we can use anywhere.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 19, 2021 8:33:33 GMT
How Tom Ince gets shoehorned into RWB when Doughty is available is beyond me. It baffles me that someone who is paid to manage a team can end up sending a side out with Ince as a right back. That's because he will always be wrong footed and will find it difficult to sit wide right or go outside. As someone who was shoehorned into LB as a right footer I can tell you it's impossible to defend and tackle a winger on your wrong foot. He was bought to play on the left and an excellent run of form from Tymon has kept him out. The mistake was not really getting a proper option for Smith in the summer. Duhaney has to play Tuesday and we can see what we have there.
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Post by kerouac on Sept 19, 2021 8:40:32 GMT
For me, his impact as a substitute has been a breath of fresh air. He gets the ball and attacks the full back. Looks good technically and a good brain. Shouldn’t we “rest” Tymon for a few games and see what Doughty can do in the same position? I know Tymon has done well but maybe that’s just an “exceeding expectations” point of view. My view anyway, we need to get Doughty into the side to see what he’s about. He has to make more of his games in the cup. Has done bits, but not torn teams up. I agree, he has shown glimpses of true quality. Today he brought a very heavy pass down when running at full pelt. It was a great touch under pressure. However, he needs more than glimpses to take over the spot of Tymon, whose essentially been our best attacking player this year (after Smith). The reason hes only shown glimpses is because hes only had such a small amount of time to show anything bloody else.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 19, 2021 8:52:25 GMT
He has to make more of his games in the cup. Has done bits, but not torn teams up. I agree, he has shown glimpses of true quality. Today he brought a very heavy pass down when running at full pelt. It was a great touch under pressure. However, he needs more than glimpses to take over the spot of Tymon, whose essentially been our best attacking player this year (after Smith). The reason hes only shown glimpses is because hes only had such a small amount of time to show anything bloody else. I watched him play 180 minutes in the EFL Cup, he looked lost for large periods of time. He is still getting up to fitness in a higher league in a position he is still learning. He will come good I'm sure but he's had chances and not ripped up trees. Tymon is currently first choice for LWB and done nothing to deserve losing his place.
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