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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 18, 2021 15:58:57 GMT
Bursik 3 Østigård 4 Souttar 4 Wilmot 4 Tymon 5 Ince 5 Sawyers 6 Clucas 6 Vrancic 5 Surridge 5 Sima 5 Subb Doughty 6 Brown 5 Powell 5 Gouranga.
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 18, 2021 16:00:24 GMT
Bursik 4 Østigård 4 Souttar 6 Wilmot 3 Tymon 5 Ince 4 Sawyers 4 Clucas 6 Vrancic 5 Surridge 3 Sima 5
Subb Doughty 6 Brown 4 Powell 5
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 18, 2021 16:02:32 GMT
Bursik 3 (three mistakes with 2 leading to goals, not good) Østigård 5 Souttar 7 (did nothing wrong but he can't do it all by himself) Wilmot 4 Tymon 5 Ince 6 Sawyers 5 Clucas 6 Vrancic 5 Surridge 5 Sima 5
Subb Doughty 6 Brown 4 Powell 5
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2021 16:06:04 GMT
Bursik 4 Ostigaard 5 Souttar 7 Wilmot 5 Ince 5 Sawyers 5 Clucas 6 Vrancic 6 Tymon 6 Sima 5 Surridge 5
Doughty 6 Brown 5 Powell 5
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Post by thepottypotter on Sept 18, 2021 16:09:18 GMT
Bursik 3 - a mare of a day. Only the Derby striker missing an open goal stopped it being even worse with another goal. Davies should be in strong contention now. Østigård 5 - anonymous Souttar 7 - best player of the day but it's not saying a lot given the overall team performane Wilmot 4 - terrible. Should have got rid of the ball and lucky it didn't cost us a goal Tymon 5 - didn't get into the game but he wasn't given the ball enough Ince 6 - defensively not that strong but nice run and finish for the goal. Thought he did ok Sawyers 6 - was mediocre. Nothing terrible or amazing. Clucas 6 - unlucky not to have wona pen when brought down in the box Vrancic 5 - poor set pieces and corners 1st half. Better in the 2nd and nice weighted ball to Ince Surridge 5 - at least he was in position but he missed another sitter from 6 yds hitting it straight to the keeper. It's becoming a theme. Sima 6 - nice movement and runs, looks promising
Subb Doughty 7 - great runs and crosses into the box Brown 5 - reasonable runs and movement, no end product Powell 6 - did ok for the amount of time he was on
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Post by houstonsteve on Sept 18, 2021 16:15:55 GMT
Souttar - 7 MOM Tymon -6 for using all his energy chasing lost causes due to the ineptitude of his colleagues. poor crossing though (probably cause he was knackered)
everyone else did not turn out at their profession for which they are still paid handsomely for. 5s all round.
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Post by fazza90 on Sept 18, 2021 16:17:44 GMT
Bursik 4 - Two howling mistakes you can't afford to make as a keeper Østigård 5 - Didn't really do much defensively & often tried to be clever going forwards & backfired almost every time Souttar 6 - Solid defensively & won some good headers but needs to be more commanding & organise Wilmot & Bursik Wilmot 4 - Defensively weak Tymon 6 - A few top quality balls across the box but not much taking on his marker today Ince 6 - good goal but did little else Sawyers 4 - He let them run through the middle time & again & looked really slow/lethargic Clucas 6 - Got stuck in, tried to make things happen & broken down their counter attacks a few times Vrancic 6 - Quality assist & tried but didn't have much of an impact throughout the game Surridge 4 - Missed a sitter & did very little Sima 5 - Didn't miss a sitter
Subb Doughty 7 - Looked really positive, ran at them & was dangerous Brown 6 - Did little wrong but didn't offer much positive either Powell 5 - Looked rusty. Tried to make things happen but not much came off
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 18, 2021 16:22:00 GMT
Bursik 4 Østigård 5 Souttar 6 Wilmot 5
Tymon 6 Ince 5 Sawyers 5 Clucas 6 Vrancic 5
Surridge 5 Sima 5
Subb Doughty 6 Brown 5 Powell 5
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 18, 2021 16:25:58 GMT
Zero the lot of em. As piss poor a performance as I've seen in many a year.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 18, 2021 16:26:08 GMT
Bursik 3, what on Earth was he doing for their second! Østigård 4 Souttar 4 Wilmot 3, it looked like he and Bursik never had seen each other before, and certainly not speaking the same language! Tymon 5 Ince 5 Sawyers 5 Clucas 6 Vrancic 5 Surridge 3 Sima 4 Subb Doughty 6, our best player even though he didn't play for long! Brown 5 Powell 5 Not enough steel in our midfield, and totally outplayed for an hour!
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Post by Jimm on Sept 18, 2021 17:29:00 GMT
Bursik, Willmot, need dropping and Sawyers and Ince shouldn't be starters in this side. At least Doughty uses his pace and takes men on. and probably the only decent performance out of the lot
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Post by stokemark on Sept 18, 2021 17:32:16 GMT
I can see why Watford weren’t overly bothered about letting Wilmot go
Defensively simply not strong enough
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Post by yyy on Sept 18, 2021 17:39:35 GMT
The lot were crap apart from dougherty.
We should have freshened it up a couple of games ago and I said as much.
Vrancic dropped for me next game for Powell, Vrancic is best used as a sub as he was at Norwich
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2021 17:48:22 GMT
The lot were crap apart from dougherty. We should have freshened it up a couple of games ago and I said as much. Vrancic dropped for me next game for Powell, Vrancic is best used as a sub as he was at Norwich Doughty looked good again when he came on, as he has previously. Can’t be far off a start now. Again, I would put Vrancic on the bench for the next few games and bring Powell in. Think Wilmot has a bit about him but he’s not looked great last couple of games. I’d keep him in for next week but there’s an argument Fox may be better suited to the left sided centre half role. It’s a long season and the fact we’ve lost to Derby shouldn’t set too many alarm bells, we’re bound to lose games we’re expected to win all season as are anyone else.
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Post by yyy on Sept 18, 2021 17:55:14 GMT
The lot were crap apart from dougherty. We should have freshened it up a couple of games ago and I said as much. Vrancic dropped for me next game for Powell, Vrancic is best used as a sub as he was at Norwich Doughty looked good again when he came on, as he has previously. Can’t be far off a start now. Again, I would put Vrancic on the bench for the next few games and bring Powell in. Think Wilmot has a bit about him but he’s not looked great last couple of games. I’d keep him in for next week but there’s an argument Fox may be better suited to the left sided centre half role. It’s a long season and the fact we’ve lost to Derby shouldn’t set too many alarm bells, we’re bound to lose games we’re expected to win all season as are anyone else. Agree about Dougherty and Vrancic, After playing another game with three number 8's and looking disjointed I'd be tempted to bring in Wilmott into Central midfield as the deeper of the three the next time Allen is out or if Allen plays poorly. That midfield is a gutter, it's full of decent parts but as unbalanced as fck
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 18, 2021 17:57:46 GMT
Doughty looked good again when he came on, as he has previously. Can’t be far off a start now. Again, I would put Vrancic on the bench for the next few games and bring Powell in. Think Wilmot has a bit about him but he’s not looked great last couple of games. I’d keep him in for next week but there’s an argument Fox may be better suited to the left sided centre half role. It’s a long season and the fact we’ve lost to Derby shouldn’t set too many alarm bells, we’re bound to lose games we’re expected to win all season as are anyone else. Agree about Dougherty and Vrancic, After playing another game with three number 8's and looking disjointed I'd be tempted to bring in Wilmott into Central midfield as the deeper of the three the next time Allen is out or if Allen plays poorly. That midfield is a gutter, it's full of decent parts but as unbalanced as fck I did think of a Wilmot experiment myself but don’t think it would enter the head of MON. Think we just need to get to January, AGAIN! and look for a suitable player then. Allen has been fine this season and I actually think we missed him today. Not a popular opinion I know👀
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Post by yyy on Sept 18, 2021 17:58:54 GMT
Agree about Dougherty and Vrancic, After playing another game with three number 8's and looking disjointed I'd be tempted to bring in Wilmott into Central midfield as the deeper of the three the next time Allen is out or if Allen plays poorly. That midfield is a gutter, it's full of decent parts but as unbalanced as fck I did think of a Wilmot experiment myself but don’t think it would enter the head of MON. Think we just need to get to January, AGAIN! and look for a suitable player then. Allen has been fine this season and I actually think we missed him today. Not a popular opinion I know👀 Joe is without doubt our best option in that deeper role at present
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 18, 2021 21:17:53 GMT
Some 3s & some 4s for the lot of them.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 18, 2021 22:38:10 GMT
The lot were crap apart from dougherty. We should have freshened it up a couple of games ago and I said as much. Vrancic dropped for me next game for Powell, Vrancic is best used as a sub as he was at Norwich Doughty looked good again when he came on, as he has previously. Can’t be far off a start now. Again, I would put Vrancic on the bench for the next few games and bring Powell in. Think Wilmot has a bit about him but he’s not looked great last couple of games. I’d keep him in for next week but there’s an argument Fox may be better suited to the left sided centre half role. It’s a long season and the fact we’ve lost to Derby shouldn’t set too many alarm bells, we’re bound to lose games we’re expected to win all season as are anyone else. Ostigard was awful today, try him at right wing back and move Wilmott back on the right of the back 3, he's simply far better than Ostigard on the right. Ince will never be a right wing back in a million years. Despite the abundance of left footed midfield players we seem to be struggling to find a left footed centre back other than Batth..
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Post by bucknall67 on Sept 18, 2021 23:15:05 GMT
I think we saw what we are today-a middle table plodding team.
If we finish top half I will be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 6:15:45 GMT
No one deserved more than a five.
That was fucking garbage.
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Post by hardcastle on Sept 19, 2021 7:46:04 GMT
Doughty sounded decent on the radio. Was he playing over on the right, or did Tymon tuck in inside?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 19, 2021 7:53:19 GMT
Doughty sounded decent on the radio. Was he playing over on the right, or did Tymon tuck in inside? Played left wing and did very well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 8:30:23 GMT
Bursik 3 - wasn't asked to do much, and was still terrible. Very poor display.
Østigård 5 - looked the business at the start of his time with us. His star has fallen a bit since.
Souttar 6 - head and shoulders on the day, without being brilliant
Wilmot 4 - poor defensively, someone point out to MON he's not a ball playing defender. He can't pass accurately.
Tymon 5 - ran a lot. A couple of good balls in. Not helped in the slightest by Wilmot on his side.
Ince 5 - his error/switch off was pathetic, but the 'keeper played his part. He is what he is - gives you very little, and hides a lot.
Sawyers 5 - I'm hoping he's still getting his fitness. He was decent for 15 minutes. Then, after that, part of a midfield that just doesn't function.
Clucas 5 - see above. What is he, exactly? Our midfield is rubbish. He's playing his part.
Vrancic 5 - he flatters to deceive imho. Takes a good corner? Not enough.
Surridge 5 - didn't realise he was on until 20 minutes, I had to check the teamsheet. Should have scored - again. That's 4 very presentable opportunities missed in 1.5 games.
Sima 5 - bright in patches, difficult to gauge in such an insipid team performance.
Subs Doughty 6 Brown 5 Powell 5
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 19, 2021 9:10:13 GMT
There is no doubt that Bursik had a "mare", but as has been said on here so many times, he is very YOUNG and still learning, so we should expect this to happen...and hope it doesn't happen too often. Whether he plays against Hull next week will be a big call for MON. The lad's confidence might be shot to pieces now, or if he is dropped, so the manager will need to assess that. If Bursik keeps his place I won't be unhappy and will hope he can redeem himself. Others should be forgiven less easily imho. Ince was asleep when Bursik threw him the ball just before their 1st goal...outrageously unprofessional, his goal only papered over an awful performance from him. For me Ince should never make the starting 11 ever again, and I would be unhappy to even see him on the bench. Boy did we miss Tommy Smith! Sawyers did little to suggest he is what we need. He may well be a decent footballer but we lack energy and drive in the middle of the park and Sawyers was less mobile than Vrancic. We cant afford both of them starting. Surridge is a "poacher" and cannot lead the line, without Brown alongside him that was cruelly exposed yesterday. A fit Fletcher starts every time. Wilmot and Ostigard were poor, and seemed to lack concentration at key times. Hopefully they too will learn from this. Souttar and Tymon come out with credit and Sima was willing, showed some decent touches, and will be better for the experience. There is surely more to come from thus guy. Derby deserved to win and whilst we gifted them the 2 opportunities they took, they also created several more and might have beaten us by 3 or 4 easily. As predicted by someone on here, the SCFC Charity Bandwaggon was certainly rolling
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Post by boniek on Sept 19, 2021 14:02:03 GMT
Bursik 4 Ostigard 4 Souttar 6 Wilmot 4 Ince 4 Vrancic 5 Sawyers 5 Clucas 5 Tymon 6 Surridge 5 Sima 5
Subs: Brown 5 Powell 4 Doughty 7
How on earth can a player fall asleep on the pitch, especially when given a chance after being out of the team for the first seven matches?? Not Tom Ince’s greatest moment...
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