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Post by callas12 on Sept 10, 2021 16:26:20 GMT
They should get the apprentices/U23's trained up to do a turn operating the turnstiles on a matchday! Character building for them & they're on the payroll afterall!
Remember the famous pictures of the players from the 70's & 80's (Adrian Heath, Crooks & Bracewell etc!) getting stuck in & clearing the pitch of snow with shovels, wheelbarrows & bin incinerators.. All part of the footy education back in them days. Do the current crop of apprentices even clean the first teamers boots? Or has that been outlawed in these days of health & safety & workers rights etc!
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 10, 2021 16:40:57 GMT
They should get the apprentices/U23's trained up to do a turn operating the turnstiles on a matchday! Character building for them & they're on the payroll afterall! Remember the famous pictures of the players from the 70's & 80's (Adrian Heath, Crooks & Bracewell etc!) getting stuck in & clearing the pitch of snow with shovels, wheelbarrows & bin incinerators.. All part of the footy education back in them days. Do the current crop of apprentices even clean the first teamers boots? Or has that been outlawed in these days of health & safety & workers rights etc! I’m don’t think the junior players clean boots any more
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 10, 2021 17:17:06 GMT
For anyone who's interested I've just had a reply off Anthony Emmerson at the club who seems a decent sort. Perhaps he reads the Oatie In short the turnstile situation is the same and the club are going to put a press release out later telling everyone to turn up early. They were 20 operators down for the Forest game so I assume 20 turnstiles not open. It must be an arduous recruitment, vetting and training process to become a turnstile operator bearing in mind they've known about this issue for at least a month and probably much longer from what Daz said on the previous thread. 20 staff down... ...could be COVID elated but if not that suggests that they don't pay enough Anthony inferred it was Covid related for the Forest game but surely that would have abated for tomorrow. Unless of course it's a different 20 off this time.
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Post by theonlooker on Sept 10, 2021 17:37:53 GMT
It would help if they advertised it. I've not seen a single ad for turnstile operators but seen an ad for matchday stewards as a general role that encompassed turnstile operator roles. I posted the recruitment advertisement on here over a month ago. It's been on the clubs website for 5 weeks and remains on there still to this day. It's been on all social media platforms and also local newspapers. The club employ a lot of students from campus but as they haven't been on campus for 10 months, we are struggling. Bear with the club for a change OR turn up before 2.58pm. Regarding pay, the club pay a lot more than the minimum wage to matchday staff and look after their them very well The only advert I've seen is a general matchday role and not a specific turnstile operator role, and on mobile I can't find any job adverts whatsoever. Is there a specific turnstile operator role that is advertised and that I've missed?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 10, 2021 18:18:45 GMT
It would help if they advertised it. I've not seen a single ad for turnstile operators but seen an ad for matchday stewards as a general role that encompassed turnstile operator roles. I posted the recruitment advertisement on here over a month ago. It's been on the clubs website for 5 weeks and remains on there still to this day. It's been on all social media platforms and also local newspapers. The club employ a lot of students from campus but as they haven't been on campus for 10 months, we are struggling. Bear with the club for a change OR turn up before 2.58pm. Regarding pay, the club pay a lot more than the minimum wage to matchday staff and look after their them very well That's fair enough and I didn't know that about the job advert. And I do know the club have looked after their employees throughout the pandemic although I have no idea what they pay. I didn't start the thread as a whinge at the club it was simply to warn people that the problems from the Forest game hadn't been resolved, Ok I had a little moan but it's in our DNA isn't it? I didn't turn up at 2.58 I turned up at 2.30 which was the time the bus got me there. Later than usual because of the increased traffic and roadworks. I didn't get into the ground until 3.08. Whichever way you look at it that's unacceptable. I was queueing to get into a 2/3's full ground for 38 minutes when I had never before queued for more than 5 minutes when the ground was packed to the rafters and the stewards outside were actually searching. And to cap it all it was pissing down. Had the club warned us in advance about the lack of turnstiles we could have got the bus to pick us up earlier which is in fact what we are doing tomorrow. But they didn't, instead they said something woolly to the effect of set off earlier because of road works around the ground. No mention of restricted access to the ground due to a lack of open turnstiles. Had they been up front I would have been much more prepared to 'Bear with them'. As other posters have said many sectors are having difficulties recruiting at this time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2021 18:25:26 GMT
There is a solution to this, automise it.
From the 3 turnstiles I’m meant to go in, 1 was open.
And that looked like it was the case all the way down the Sentinel Stand.
In the mean time, train the two blokes that were stood outside who would normally do searches but were doing fuck all to do the turnstiles.
Easy
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 10, 2021 18:26:50 GMT
There is a solution to this, automise it. From the 3 turnstiles I’m meant to go in, 1 was open. And that looked like it was the case all the way down the Sentinel Stand. In the mean time, train the two blokes that were stood outside who would normally do searches but were doing fuck all to do the turnstiles. Easy Sack 'em! They were meant to be there to keep you out!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2021 18:27:31 GMT
There is a solution to this, automise it. From the 3 turnstiles I’m meant to go in, 1 was open. And that looked like it was the case all the way down the Sentinel Stand. In the mean time, train the two blokes that were stood outside who would normally do searches but were doing fuck all to do the turnstiles. Easy Sack 'em! They were meant to be there to keep you out!! Hilarious
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 10, 2021 18:33:40 GMT
Sack 'em! They were meant to be there to keep you out!! Hilarious It was quite funny in fairness.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2021 18:45:30 GMT
There’s no advert where I’d expect one to be if they’re trying to recruit students. There is one for the in stadium betting shops on there though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2021 19:46:42 GMT
There’s no advert where I’d expect one to be if they’re trying to recruit students. There is one for the in stadium betting shops on there though. The student adverts tend to go up in student unions and around campus. As I stated earlier, no students are on campus yet until next week. The whole of hospitality, security and many other industries are struggling for part time workers and have been for a while now. Why don't you train up Bayern to be a turnstile operator if its that easy? www.stokecityfc.com/category/job-vacancies/I’ve found an advert online for a job at the ground where I’d expect to find the advert for turnstile operators if they wanted to get students. If you work at the club tell them to get it on unitemps like the job for the betting operators is 👍
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2021 20:00:11 GMT
I’ve found an advert online for a job at the ground where I’d expect to find the advert for turnstile operators if they wanted to get students. If you work at the club tell them to get it on unitemps like the job for the betting operators is 👍 Oh dear..... There are no students on campus yet SO they are not local for interviews and training etc if successfull in their application. Once on campus then the club can commence in the above. That’s not true to say there are no students on campus. There’s not the full amount but there are students on campus. There are local students, students who stay over the summer and there’s teams to interview over so you absolutely should be doing it now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 10, 2021 20:12:15 GMT
That’s not true to say there are no students on campus. There’s not the full amount but there are students on campus. There are local students, students who stay over the summer and there’s teams to interview over so you absolutely should be doing it now. Right. No universities have had students on campus since last October due to covid and the second lockdown so how can they have "stayed over from last year"? University's are only just allowing students back this month due to the start of the academic year. Give it a rest now please and think positive for once. Again that’s not true. Students with a practical element have been on campus from March and everyone started in September before the last lockdown at one of the local uni’s anyway. Yes there was no students from December to March but either side there were. Be positive? I’m reading excuses that aren’t true that prevent me from getting into the ground speedily. If you seriously want some staff from students DM me.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 11, 2021 21:25:33 GMT
How come Wherty’s deleted his posts on here? Makes Bayern seem madder than ever as he’s talking to himself now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2021 21:37:17 GMT
How come Wherty’s deleted his posts on here? Makes Bayern seem madder than ever as he’s talking to himself now. Haha no idea. None of it’s true mind and I’m waiting for the DM because I can genuinely help. What was it like today? I was there at 2.15 today. Only 29 from 27 28 29 was open at that time. A queue of about 30 there. 30-32 all open, no queue so I went there. Not sure why others didn’t bar following what it says on their ticket? Seemed daft not have 2 of 27-29 and 2 of 30-32 open and 1 and 3 how it was at that time. 27-29 are the first turnstiles people come to generally so bound to be a bigger queue.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 11, 2021 21:43:58 GMT
How come Wherty’s deleted his posts on here? Makes Bayern seem madder than ever as he’s talking to himself now. Haha no idea. None of it’s true mind and I’m waiting for the DM because I can genuinely help. What was it like today? I was there at 2.15 today. Only 29 from 27 28 29 was open at that time. A queue of about 30 there. 30-32 all open, no queue so I went there. Not sure why others didn’t bar following what it says on their ticket? Seemed daft not have 2 of 27-29 and 2 of 30-32 open and 1 and 3 how it was at that time. 27-29 are the first turnstiles people come to generally so bound to be a bigger queue. No problem today. Despite asking the bus driver to come early it came at the normal time so we got there about 2.25. A few more turnstiles were open but only about 2/3’s but queues only about 10 deep so more or less straight in. I’ve no idea what was different🤷♂️
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2021 21:46:05 GMT
Haha no idea. None of it’s true mind and I’m waiting for the DM because I can genuinely help. What was it like today? I was there at 2.15 today. Only 29 from 27 28 29 was open at that time. A queue of about 30 there. 30-32 all open, no queue so I went there. Not sure why others didn’t bar following what it says on their ticket? Seemed daft not have 2 of 27-29 and 2 of 30-32 open and 1 and 3 how it was at that time. 27-29 are the first turnstiles people come to generally so bound to be a bigger queue. No problem today. Despite asking the bus driver to come early it came at the normal time so we got there about 2.25. A few more turnstiles were open but only about 2/3’s but queues only about 10 deep so more or less straight in. I’ve no idea what was different🤷♂️ Maybe more people turned up early? I only did due to circumstance mind. And it was pretty full in the concourse already. Glad it was fine though, it really shouldn’t be too difficult to do.
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Post by march4 on Sept 11, 2021 22:20:42 GMT
I’m now having to turn up at 1.20pm to park. Pretty much got the last spot today.
Then in the ground an hour before kick off.
I love football but even I think this is a bit excessive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 11, 2021 22:25:25 GMT
I’m now having to turn up at 1.20pm to park. Pretty much got the last spot today. Then in the ground an hour before kick off. I love football but even I think this is a bit excessive. Thought the warm up was the best bit of the day mind 😂 The last time I would have watched the warm up was the last time we played at White Hart Lane. And the drills were so good.
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Post by daz2631 on Sept 11, 2021 23:22:40 GMT
We had a few new starters on turnstiles today so more were open and only needed 3 of us on away end so that freed up 2 more operators. Wednesday not looking good 10 to 15 operators not available because of work and holiday commitments
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Sept 12, 2021 10:48:31 GMT
We had a few new starters on turnstiles today so more were open and only needed 3 of us on away end so that freed up 2 more operators. Wednesday not looking good 10 to 15 operators not available because of work and holiday commitments Much improved all three of our turnstiles were open yesterday.
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Post by TinkerT on Sept 12, 2021 11:05:46 GMT
We had a few new starters on turnstiles today so more were open and only needed 3 of us on away end so that freed up 2 more operators. Wednesday not looking good 10 to 15 operators not available because of work and holiday commitments Why don't you have 1 operator for every 2 turnstiles and allow the people to scan own tickets? At Leeds they don't even have turnstile operators just the scanner and you scan it and walk through.
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Post by stantheman on Sept 12, 2021 11:15:43 GMT
We had a few new starters on turnstiles today so more were open and only needed 3 of us on away end so that freed up 2 more operators. Wednesday not looking good 10 to 15 operators not available because of work and holiday commitments Keep up the good work👍🏻
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2021 11:51:10 GMT
We had a few new starters on turnstiles today so more were open and only needed 3 of us on away end so that freed up 2 more operators. Wednesday not looking good 10 to 15 operators not available because of work and holiday commitments Why don't you have 1 operator for every 2 turnstiles and allow the people to scan own tickets? At Leeds they don't even have turnstile operators just the scanner and you scan it and walk through. It was mentioned on the other thread that they manually have to press a button for the turnstile to work so they need 1 per turnstile.
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Post by wherty on Sept 12, 2021 12:30:23 GMT
How come Wherty’s deleted his posts on here? Makes Bayern seem madder than ever as he’s talking to himself now. I was asked to.... probably wise under the circumstances.
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Post by TinkerT on Sept 12, 2021 12:33:51 GMT
Why don't you have 1 operator for every 2 turnstiles and allow the people to scan own tickets? At Leeds they don't even have turnstile operators just the scanner and you scan it and walk through. It was mentioned on the other thread that they manually have to press a button for the turnstile to work so they need 1 per turnstile. Well surely the club could sort it out so they could be automatic with 1 per 2 turnstiles. Another thing the supporters council should be sorting but are doing sweet FA about.
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Post by wherty on Sept 12, 2021 13:01:43 GMT
It was mentioned on the other thread that they manually have to press a button for the turnstile to work so they need 1 per turnstile. Well surely the club could sort it out so they could be automatic with 1 per 2 turnstiles. Another thing the supporters council should be sorting but are doing sweet FA about. The problem is as with other stadiums like Leeds.... many fans were scanning their ticket and whilst the turnstile etc rotated to allow entry, they were squeezing kids or young adults in with them for free. That's why you have 1 person per turnstile to prevent this unfortunately.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 12, 2021 14:25:31 GMT
How come Wherty’s deleted his posts on here? Makes Bayern seem madder than ever as he’s talking to himself now. I was asked to.... probably wise under the circumstances. I did wonder if that was it mate. No point getting yourself in the shit over a daft argument on here. Especially with Bayern 😉
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 15, 2021 23:07:18 GMT
Absolutely ridiculous again tonight,massive queue at 7-15 going in the main stand then they decide to open 2 more.WTF is going on?
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 15, 2021 23:54:07 GMT
Much better tonight in Tile Mountain block 30. Only one of 6 turnstiles shut.
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