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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 28, 2021 15:55:32 GMT
Bursik 8 Ostergaard 4 Souttar 5 Wilmot 5 Smith 5 Tymon 6 Allen 5 Clucas 4 Vrancic 5 Fletcher 4 Brown 4 Subs Sawyers 6 Surridge 6 Doughty 7 Gouranga.  |
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Post by liathroid on Aug 28, 2021 15:56:47 GMT
wow your early today
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 28, 2021 15:57:10 GMT
Bursik 7
Ostergaard 3
Souttar 3
Wilmot 3
Smith 3
Tymon 6
Allen 5
Clucas 3
Vrancic 4
Fletcher 4
Brown 4
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Post by josefr on Aug 28, 2021 15:59:26 GMT
Bursik 8
Østegård 2
Souttar 3
Wilmot 2
Smith 3
Tymon 5
Allen 2
Clucas 2
Vrancic 4
Fletcher 2
Brown 4
Sawyers 5
Surridge 5
Doughty 5
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Post by upthejunction on Aug 28, 2021 15:59:47 GMT
Bursik 8
Ostergaard 3
Souttar 5
Wilmot 3
Smith 5
Tymon 6
Allen 5
Clucas 4
Vrancic 6
Fletcher 4
Brown 4
Subs
Sawyers 6
Surridge 5
Doughty 6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 16:00:03 GMT
Bursik - 9
Tymon - 7
The rest 🤬🤯🤬
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 28, 2021 16:00:53 GMT
Got to shoot off out  You need to be on the ball with your highlights although they won't be a great watch. Gouranga. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 28, 2021 16:01:37 GMT
Bursik 7 MOM
Ostergaard 3
Souttar 5
Wilmot 4
Smith 3
Tymon 5
Allen 4
Clucas 3
Vrancic 4
Fletcher 3
Brown 3
Subs
Sawyers 5
Surridge 5
Doughty 6
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 28, 2021 16:11:58 GMT
Bursik 7 MOM Ostergaard 3 Souttar 5 Wilmot 4 Smith 3 Tymon 5 Allen 4 Clucas 3 Vrancic 4 Fletcher 3 Brown 3 Subs Sawyers 5 Surridge 5 Doughty 6 You thought Souttar was as good as Tymon? |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 28, 2021 16:12:57 GMT
Bursik 8
Ostergaard 5
Souttar 6
Wilmot 5
Smith 5
Tymon 6
Allen 6
Clucas 5
Vrancic 5
Fletcher 5
Brown 5
Subs
Sawyers 6
Surridge 6
Doughty 6
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Post by gawa on Aug 28, 2021 16:20:48 GMT
Bursik 7
Ostergaard 4
Souttar 5.5
Wilmot 5
Smith 5
Tymon 6
Allen 6
Clucas 5
Vrancic 5.5
Fletcher 5
Brown 5.5
Subs
Sawyers 6
Surridge 6
Doughty 7
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Post by Bombus on Aug 28, 2021 16:25:56 GMT
Bursik class
Smith tried
Tymon tried
Can't be bothered whatsoever with the rest Brown and Surridge tried as well I suppose with Mario Vrancic the clever one faffing about maybe give them three a rating of 4
Man alive
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Post by liathroid on Aug 28, 2021 16:29:45 GMT
Got to shoot off out You need to be on the ball with your highlights although they won't be a great watch. Gouranga. waiting for them ,is Sal ok |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 28, 2021 16:31:00 GMT
Bursik 7 MOM Ostergaard 3 Souttar 5 Wilmot 4 Smith 3 Tymon 5 Allen 4 Clucas 3 Vrancic 4 Fletcher 3 Brown 3 Subs Sawyers 5 Surridge 5 Doughty 6 You thought Souttar was as good as Tymon? Bizarre |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 28, 2021 16:37:27 GMT
Bursik 7 MOM Ostergaard 3 Souttar 5 Wilmot 4 Smith 3 Tymon 5 Allen 4 Clucas 3 Vrancic 4 Fletcher 3 Brown 3 Subs Sawyers 5 Surridge 5 Doughty 6 You thought Souttar was as good as Tymon?  |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Aug 28, 2021 16:48:47 GMT
I'm not sure why Tymon is getting the plaudits here. Going forward he did OK but defensively both he and Smith were awful.
We were getting destroyed down the flanks and both Wilmot and Ostigard were continually left totally exposed and being dragged out to cover our missing wing backs and Clucas.
Smith, in particular, was getting praised for his previous improved performances going forward but it is totally at the cost of neglecting any defensive duties, very evident today against a better team.
Wing backs have to defend when it's necessary, ours did not do that well, today more so than ever.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 28, 2021 16:49:12 GMT
You thought Souttar was as good as Tymon? Bizarre Some people fail to see Souttar's weaknesses (including I have to say the Sentinel).? |
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Post by thehoof on Aug 28, 2021 17:05:45 GMT
Bursik - 8 MOM
Ostegard - 4 not at the races
Souttar - 5 at fault for the 3rd
Wilmott - 4 got flustered first half.
Smith -6, did okay, midfield didn’t help, pushed forward then caught out of position when midfield gave the ball away.
Allen -5 the best of the midfield 3 that started.
Clucas-3 neither use nor ornament today
Vrancic -4 poor with his delivery and passing
Tymon - 6, same as for Smith
Brown -5 , very little to feed off given Fletcher’s awful performance.
Fletcher -2, a performance reminiscent of dear old Sam Vokes.
Sawyers -6 actually passed to Stoke players; I think he needs to start.
Surridge -6 more in 23 minutes than Fletcher’s 67. Start him and use Fletcher as the sub; 30 minutes would allow him to use his experience while preserving what speed he has.
Doughty -6 did okay.
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 28, 2021 18:06:26 GMT
Bursik 6
Østegård 5
Souttar 5
Wilmot 6
Smith 4
Tymon 7
Allen 4
Clucas 2
Vrancic 6
Fletcher 5
Brown 5
Sawyers 5
Surridge 5
Doughty 5
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Post by maine on Aug 28, 2021 19:03:06 GMT
Bursik 7
Østegård 5
Souttar 7
Wilmot 6
Smith 5
Tymon 7
Allen 8
Clucas 5
Vrancic 6
Fletcher6
Brown 6
Sawyers 7
Surridge 6
Doughty 6
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 28, 2021 19:52:11 GMT
Bursik 7
Smith 3
Ostigard 3
Souttar 5
Wilmot 4
Tymon 6
Allen 5
Clucas 3
Vrancic 5
Brown 5
Fletcher 5
Surridge 5
Sawyers 5
Doughty 5
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 28, 2021 20:16:08 GMT
Bursik 8* Fantastic display. Clumsy on the penalty but then saved it to make amends
Smith 5 Didn't offer anything going forward at all, left too much space behind him.
Ostigard 4 Dreadful first half. Bit better after the break.
Souttar 6 Pick of the CBs, easily.
Wilmot 5 Rash tackles, not great defensively either.
Tymon 7 Worked really hard on the left and offered some threat.
Allen 6 Best of a poor midfield.
Clucas 4 Totally anonymous
Vrancic 5 Some neat passes but midfield was overrrun
Fletcher 5 Did nothing, but no service
Brown 6 Worked hard, but see above
subs:
Sawyers 6 Did OK when he came on
Doughty 6 Weird putting him on the right but he did quite well
Surridge 6 Pressed well- offered more than Fletcher
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Post by lordb on Aug 28, 2021 20:30:39 GMT
Having been to the game am astonished at the marks for Souttar, he was superb
Bursik 8 , would have got a 9 but he did give the penalty away
Smith 6- struggled to cope but he wasn't completely overwhelmed
Tymon 6 - similar to Smith but got forward a little more
Ostigard 5 - he struggled at times but doesn't hide,still tried to play the ball
Wilmot 5 - same as Leo
Souttar - 9 superb
Clucas 6, would have been a 5 but picked up second half
Allen 7. - good second half
Vranic 7- best if our midfielders today
Fletcher 5 - struggled
Brown 5 - anonymous first half but was miles better once Surridge was on
Subs: Surridge 7, was a nuisance
Doughty 8 - they couldn't handle him, beat his man got good crosses in
Sawyers 7 - good passing, keen to see him in home gat coming up
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 28, 2021 20:54:00 GMT
Got to shoot off out You need to be on the ball with your highlights although they won't be a great watch. Gouranga. waiting for them ,is Sal ok Not sure about Sal, I'll drop her a PM over the weekend. Gouranga. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 28, 2021 23:06:24 GMT
Bursik 8 - would have been 9 bar giving the peno away
Ostigard 3 - woeful
Souttar 5 - the third goal was just painful from his POV
Wilmot 4 - just lost his head
Smith 4 - everything came down his side
Tymon 6 - tried but not supported
Allen 5 - poor
Clucas 3 - woeful
Vrancic 3 - woeful
Brown 4 - barely touched it
Fletcher 4 - same
Doughty 6 - looked lively but didn’t do much
Sawyers 6 - same
Surridge 6 - same
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Post by sifta on Aug 29, 2021 0:32:31 GMT
I'm sick to fuckin death about the agenda against Brown on here. Comments like "3/10", "barely touched it", and "anonymous" are imbecilic. And the pissed up children behind me who didn't miss an opportunity to revel in anything he was involved in that didn't come off fucked me right off. My perspective is that he was our most effective forward throughout, and yes him and Surridge were a more impressive duo than him and Fletcher (Who has a place in the squad, but today wasn't the day). I lost count of the number of times Brown closed down the Fulham defence, won the ball and played it to a teammate high up the pitch (Normally Smith, Allen, or Vrancic) only to see his work squandered. Today, along with Bursik, and Allen he was by far our best player. Bursik - 8 - I can say I was there when a Stoke goalie saved a pen Smith - 6 (Quality of crosses not up to normal standard) Wilmot - 5 poor distribution, didn't seem to be in sync with Tymon Souttar - 6 Has had better games Ostigard - 5 Didn't win his battles as he has in the past Tymon - 6 Started brightly, but didn't exploit the space he sometime found himself in Clucas - 4 - Really didn't notice he was on the pitch Allen - 7 - Best of the midfield 3 Vrancic - 5 - Nothing stuck, and didn't create anything (Would like Powell back) Brown - 7.5 - Tireless display closed down, and fed others to no avail Fletcher - 6 - Not mobile, and also didn't manage to win many battles and hold up the ball Doughty - 6.5 - Made a difference, quick, got round the back more than once, and put in quality crosses. Surrudge - 6 - Improvement on Fletcher Sawyers - 5 - Couldn't get into the game
Stoke Fans - 10 - did their team proud
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Post by sifta on Aug 29, 2021 0:45:27 GMT
I'm sick to fuckin death about the agenda against Brown on here. Comments like "3/10", "barely touched it", and "anonymous" are imbecilic. And the pissed up children behind me who didn't miss an opportunity to revel in anything he was involved in that didn't come off fucked me right off. My perspective is that he was our most effective forward throughout, and yes him and Surridge were a more impressive duo than him and Fletcher (Who has a place in the squad, but today wasn't the day). I lost count of the number of times Brown closed down the Fulham defence, won the ball and played it to a teammate high up the pitch (Normally Smith, Allen, or Vrancic) only to see his work squandered. Today, along with Bursik, and Allen he was by far our best player. Bursik - 8 - I can say I was there when a Stoke goalie saved a pen Smith - 6 (Quality of crosses not up to normal standard) Wilmot - 5 poor distribution, didn't seem to be in sync with Tymon Souttar - 6 Has had better games Ostigard - 5 Didn't win his battles as he has in the past Tymon - 6 Started brightly, but didn't exploit the space he sometime found himself in Clucas - 4 - Really didn't notice he was on the pitch Allen - 7 - Best of the midfield 3 Vrancic - 5 - Nothing stuck, and didn't create anything (Would like Powell back) Brown - 7.5 - Tireless display closed down, and fed others to no avail Fletcher - 6 - Not mobile, and also didn't manage to win many battles and hold up the ball Doughty - 6.5 - Made a difference, quick, got round the back more than once, and put in quality crosses. Surrudge - 6 - Improvement on Fletcher Sawyers - 5 - Couldn't get into the game
To clarify,
I love my strikers to score 20 goals a season, however if they aren't scoring, I want them to be working their socks off to win the ball high up the pitch and giving it to the creative players to create chances (a la Ian Rush), because that is the most highly effective way of creating goalscoring opportunities. Brown did that today, and some people still gave him 3/10! FFS
and to be stood in front of people who never once applauded when a particular Stoke player did something well, but immediately came down on him when something didn't work out was soul destroying.
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Post by paulstoke1 on Aug 29, 2021 6:07:57 GMT
Fulham keeper 9
Thought we had some good crosses going in the first half and made some good interceptions. If it wasn't for him and they had a poor keeper we'd have been in front! Didn't think we were that bad and had ago ckucas was very poor and out back 3 were skinned a few times by quality. Fletcher s time starting should be the past
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 29, 2021 8:43:35 GMT
Missed the game (wedding)
There are a lot of very low scores there, were they realy that bad?
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