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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 21, 2021 16:36:40 GMT
Took him a while to turn around the fortunes of NI from cannon fodder to decent team, taking them from a ranking of 129 to a high of 20.
Seems to be doing the same at Stoke.
Took a bit of time to weed out the trash and to put his own stamp on the side, and now we are reaping the benefits at this early stage.
Hopefully this younger hungrier side will make a good push for the top 6 as i think we are gonna see something special this season on the pitch.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 21, 2021 16:48:31 GMT
That Collins sale looks to have been vital. It gave us the licence to offload all of the chaff and put together what finally looks like a balanced squad. I think we're still missing some cover at right back and another centre forward.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Aug 21, 2021 16:50:38 GMT
That Collins sale looks to have been vital. It gave us the licence to offload all of the chaff and put together what finally looks like a balanced squad. I think we're still missing some cover at right back and another centre forward. Buy him back next season |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 21, 2021 17:14:44 GMT
That Collins sale looks to have been vital. It gave us the licence to offload all of the chaff and put together what finally looks like a balanced squad. I think we're still missing some cover at right back and another centre forward. Buy him back next season We don’t need him. Wilmot and Ostegard have been revelation and have already developed a good understanding those two and with Bursik. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2021 17:16:18 GMT
I don't remember his Northern Ireland teams knocking it around like the 1970 Brazil team, mind you!
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 21, 2021 17:17:17 GMT
He'd have done it even quicker had he not shit himself after Christmas last season*
* That should get em spitting...
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 21, 2021 17:17:41 GMT
This is his team now, what a bloke.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 21, 2021 17:19:46 GMT
We would have gotten into the play offs last season had injuries to key players not completely derailed us.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 21, 2021 17:38:03 GMT
MON and his coaching team deserve huge credit.
Young players are blossoming, passing has moved up 2 or 3 classes, pressing is superb, and defending is well organised.
Watching the highlights, we created quite a few chances; when converting those chances into goals clicks, someone is going to get a good hiding.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 17:38:50 GMT
We would have gotten into the play offs last season had injuries to key players not completely derailed us. Agreed. |
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Post by gawa on Aug 21, 2021 17:48:53 GMT
I don't remember his Northern Ireland teams knocking it around like the 1970 Brazil team, mind you! We don't sing "we're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland" for no reason. You've got to remember the squad and pool of players available when managing NI is alot worse than what Stoke have. What he did do was have us punching well above our weight and competing against sides which a few years earlier were walking the ball past us. Plus I thought we played a really good high press under him and had some well drilled set pieces which we practiced and came off well. He did as good a job as anyone could of with the squad we have. Hopefully Stoke are starting to reap the benefits now too. |
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 21, 2021 17:50:58 GMT
I don't remember his Northern Ireland teams knocking it around like the 1970 Brazil team, mind you! We don't sing "we're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland" for no reason. You've got to remember the squad and pool of players available when managing NI is alot worse than what Stoke have. What he did do was have us punching well above our weight and competing against sides which a few years earlier were walking the ball past us. Plus I thought we played a really good high press under him and had some well drilled set pieces which we practiced and came off well. He did as good a job as anyone could of with the squad we have. Hopefully Stoke are starting to reap the benefits now too. What time are you on tonight, Col? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 21, 2021 17:52:42 GMT
I don't remember his Northern Ireland teams knocking it around like the 1970 Brazil team, mind you! We don't sing "we're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland" for no reason. You've got to remember the squad and pool of players available when managing NI is alot worse than what Stoke have. What he did do was have us punching well above our weight and competing against sides which a few years earlier were walking the ball past us. Plus I thought we played a really good high press under him and had some well drilled set pieces which we practiced and came off well. He did as good a job as anyone could of with the squad we have. Hopefully Stoke are starting to reap the benefits now too. Yeah, totally agree. But it was always an open question about what type of style he'd end up at here in the end when he was basically forced to be ultra-pragmatic with Northern Ireland due to the population restrictions. But this all feels very exciting! Credit to MON and the coaching staff |
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Post by telfordstokie on Aug 21, 2021 17:54:56 GMT
It’s understandably taken a bit of time to sort out the terrible mess he inherited but what MON has done for this club so far is just priceless. Legend in the making.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 21, 2021 17:56:59 GMT
And again I say… HE NEEDS A NEW CONTRACT
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Post by dan55 on Aug 21, 2021 20:58:58 GMT
It’s understandably taken a bit of time to sort out the terrible mess he inherited but what MON has done for this club so far is just priceless. Legend in the making. He's class. I knew we just had to be patient. |
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 21, 2021 21:09:35 GMT
I had high hopes when he was appointed and he didn't disappoint but the poor form after December definitely had me seriously wondering. Thankfully my doubts seem to have proven wrong and he's back to where he promised to be after saving us from the Jones debacle. A great summer window and a brilliant start to the new season... Thanks Michael  |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 22, 2021 7:29:20 GMT
I don't remember his Northern Ireland teams knocking it around like the 1970 Brazil team, mind you! I don't think Dean Holden is getting the recognition he deserves for the change in playing style since he arrived - there's an energy and tempo that wasn't there before. MoN may well be the main man but one of his skills appears to be building a good team around him and bringing in Holden may well have been one of our best bit of unnoticed business this year. |
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Post by theonlooker on Aug 22, 2021 7:52:30 GMT
I don't remember his Northern Ireland teams knocking it around like the 1970 Brazil team, mind you! I don't think Dean Holden is getting the recognition he deserves for the change in playing style since he arrived - there's an energy and tempo that wasn't there before. MoN may well be the main man but one of his skills appears to be building a good team around him and bringing in Holden may well have been one of our best bit of unnoticed business this year. I think the assistant manager is more important these days than ever before and what we are seeing here in a positive manner is being mirrored elsewhere in a negative manner. Two managers I would have happily had here are struggling elsewhere in the form of Nigel Pearson and Paul Cook. Both of them are missing their right hand men from their successful days. Pearson is missing Shakespeare and Cook is missing Leam Richardson, who is doing well with Wigan. |
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Post by zerps on Aug 22, 2021 7:53:44 GMT
The new fergie
Probably
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Post by moon on Aug 22, 2021 7:53:56 GMT
We don’t need him. Wilmot and Ostegard have been revelation and have already developed a good understanding those two and with Bursik. I’d buy Ostigard if we have the chance, I think Collins will turn into a quality player and would welcome him back one day, I doubt he would get in our back 3 at the moment though, if he did it would be at the expense of Ostigard or Wilmot. Souttar offers us something different with his presence, really happy with the 3 of them back there. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 22, 2021 8:19:08 GMT
I don't think Dean Holden is getting the recognition he deserves for the change in playing style since he arrived - there's an energy and tempo that wasn't there before. MoN may well be the main man but one of his skills appears to be building a good team around him and bringing in Holden may well have been one of our best bit of unnoticed business this year. I think the assistant manager is more important these days than ever before and what we are seeing here in a positive manner is being mirrored elsewhere in a negative manner. Two managers I would have happily had here are struggling elsewhere in the form of Nigel Pearson and Paul Cook. Both of them are missing their right hand men from their successful days. Pearson is missing Shakespeare and Cook is missing Leam Richardson, who is doing well with Wigan. Interesting parallel between Holden and Shakespeare - both were influential behind the scenes (at Bristol City and Leicester) and both struggled when thrown into the spotlight as managers. Some managers prefer going it alone but MoN seems to be one of those managers who is prepared to listen and give other's their head - I don't think it's a coincidence that our playing style has changed since Holden's arrival and it's a credit to both Holden and MoN for making it happen. |
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