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Post by wherty on Aug 16, 2021 11:21:31 GMT
They're only a championship club, nothing special. We have every chance of picking up points, a point at their place, maintain an unbeaten start and 3 points at ours in the return fixture will do me. We still got Campbell to come back yet, Dougherty to get uo to speed and a couple of players to sign before the window shuts They've got 1 point from 2 games and 1 goal scored, new manager in with different philosophy of play. The longer it stays nil for them the more the crowd will be on their back. Think positive ffs
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 16, 2021 11:23:54 GMT
Be disappointed if MON allows himself to be beaten by a novice like Russell Martin. I fancy at least a point
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Post by yyy on Aug 16, 2021 11:24:44 GMT
They're only a championship club, nothing special. We have every chance of picking up points, a point at their place, maintain an unbeaten start and 3 points at ours in the return fixture will do me. We still got Campbell to come back yet, Dougherty to get uo to speed and a couple of players to sign before the window shuts They've got 1 point from 2 games and 1 goal scored, new manager in with different philosophy of play. The longer it stays nil for them the more the crowd will be on their back. Think positive ffs I am, I think a point is a decent result, 2 challenging away games on the road in 4 days, a point in each is a good return for me. Pick up points away from home and win our home games and we'll be doing well, we can't win every game and play everybody off the park in doing so, that's why everyone is in the same league
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2021 11:40:25 GMT
Someone pointed out they have a few key injuries. Good time to go there
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Post by thanksjon on Aug 16, 2021 11:45:05 GMT
Early I know but a win down there would be great for the team and lift the confidence all round.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Aug 16, 2021 11:52:20 GMT
Very curious about this one. In previous years MON has been very defensive against Swansea, frustratingly so. This year he's made lots of noise about being progressive, dominating games etc, plus Swansea don't look quite as strong. Hoping for a positive approach tomorrow!
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Post by werrington on Aug 16, 2021 11:56:09 GMT
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Post by yyy on Aug 16, 2021 18:47:27 GMT
No presser?
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 16, 2021 19:24:42 GMT
Vrancic out again unfortunately
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Post by Gods on Aug 16, 2021 19:30:15 GMT
Vrancic out again unfortunately MON said he felt his hamstring last Thursday. I'm not aware of any hamstring injury known to man which gets better in 5 days so I guess that is no surprise. We just have to hope it's not a niggle that stays with him for several months, hamstring injuries can be a bit like that.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 16, 2021 20:17:25 GMT
I’ve a Feeling by midnight tomorrow early optimism will e fading slightly and the sense of positivity around our window somewhat diminished and would pit a huge amount on the forest gene given its Fulham away before the break
My guess is seven points from 12 would be seen as a Decent start but six r less a pretty poor return so tomorrow is a defining game in our 5 match start
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Post by lordb on Aug 16, 2021 21:13:16 GMT
I’ve a Feeling by midnight tomorrow early optimism will e fading slightly and the sense of positivity around our window somewhat diminished and would pit a huge amount on the forest gene given its Fulham away before the break My guess is seven points from 12 would be seen as a Decent start but six r less a pretty poor return so tomorrow is a defining game in our 5 match start You appear to be saying the difference between a good start and a bad start (as if they are the only two assesments available) is one point.
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Post by Ron on Aug 16, 2021 21:14:36 GMT
Vrancic out again unfortunately as good as he is we’ll do we’ll get 20 games out of him
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 16, 2021 21:50:48 GMT
I’ve a Feeling by midnight tomorrow early optimism will e fading slightly and the sense of positivity around our window somewhat diminished and would pit a huge amount on the forest gene given its Fulham away before the break My guess is seven points from 12 would be seen as a Decent start but six r less a pretty poor return so tomorrow is a defining game in our 5 match start You appear to be saying the difference between a good start and a bad start (as if they are the only two assesments available) is one point. 4 poor 3-5 - disappointing 6 - par 7 - good 8 + excellent Tight margins over 5 games
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 16, 2021 21:54:48 GMT
I’ve a Feeling by midnight tomorrow early optimism will e fading slightly and the sense of positivity around our window somewhat diminished and would pit a huge amount on the forest gene given its Fulham away before the break My guess is seven points from 12 would be seen as a Decent start but six r less a pretty poor return so tomorrow is a defining game in our 5 match start Good windows. Bad windows. People moan about moneterisation of football but you certainly drank the kool aid
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Post by Gods on Aug 16, 2021 21:59:19 GMT
Vrancic out again unfortunately as good as he is we’ll do we’ll get 20 games out of him Yep, we seem to do a special line in hiring the world's most fragile men these days. I just feel that in the bun fight that is the Championship you need a side that shapes up well physically.
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 16, 2021 22:02:30 GMT
They are there to be got at, but are we brave enough to actually get on the front foot and have a go at them? Nope.
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Post by lordb on Aug 16, 2021 22:09:16 GMT
You appear to be saying the difference between a good start and a bad start (as if they are the only two assesments available) is one point. 4 poor 3-5 - disappointing 6 - par 7 - good 8 + excellent Tight margins over 5 games Pretty meaningless really
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 16, 2021 22:20:30 GMT
You appear to be saying the difference between a good start and a bad start (as if they are the only two assesments available) is one point. 4 poor 3-5 - disappointing 6 - par 7 - good 8 + excellent Tight margins over 5 games In this league, it’s tight margins in 46 games. Let’s hope for a bit more luck with injuries than we had last year.
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Post by pb1863 on Aug 17, 2021 5:32:14 GMT
To get promoted last season you needed 1.98 points per game and to make top 6, 1.67. Obviously teams go on positive and not so positive runs but to keep up with the curve you would ideally need:
8 points after 5 games to make playoffs (10 to get promoted) 17 after 10 (20 points top 2) 25 after 15 (30 points top 2)
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Post by george2again on Aug 17, 2021 7:11:00 GMT
From what I’ve seen of them they like to keep possession and will over play a lot. Look pretty toothless up front. We need to start well tonight and press otherwise we will be under the cosh a bit. Think midfield will win this game tonight which doesn’t bode well for us really.
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Post by Gods on Aug 17, 2021 7:37:31 GMT
To get promoted last season you needed 1.98 points per game and to make top 6, 1.67. Obviously teams go on positive and not so positive runs but to keep up with the curve you would ideally need: 8 points after 5 games to make playoffs (10 to get promoted) 17 after 10 (20 points top 2) 25 after 15 (30 points top 2) I feel like at some point if we are to make a serious bid for promotion by whatever means we will need to put a run of good results together. I'm not talking about 2 wins in a row or even 3 which has been beyond us so far in the Championship. I'm thinking about something like 8 wins in 10 games with a draw and a defeat say. In our 3 and a bit seasons so far in the Championship we have just never really put a run of results together, never built any momentum. We've just limped from one game to the next on a whim and a prayer.
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 17, 2021 8:13:51 GMT
Have we categorically ruled out it not being on the red button?. Didn't someone post a link showing it on their schedule?.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 17, 2021 8:42:41 GMT
To get promoted last season you needed 1.98 points per game and to make top 6, 1.67. Obviously teams go on positive and not so positive runs but to keep up with the curve you would ideally need: 8 points after 5 games to make playoffs (10 to get promoted) 17 after 10 (20 points top 2) 25 after 15 (30 points top 2) I feel like at some point if we are to make a serious bid for promotion by whatever means we will need to put a run of good results together. I'm not talking about 2 wins in a row or even 3 which has been beyond us so far in the Championship. I'm thinking about something like 8 wins in 10 games with a draw and a defeat say. In our 3 and a bit seasons so far in the Championship we have just never really put a run of results together, never built any momentum. We've just limped from one game to the next on a wim and a prayer. Am I correct in saying we haven’t won three games in a row for nearly five years?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 8:47:30 GMT
I'm confident of a win tonight.
Just don't start Allen and Clucas together.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 8:50:40 GMT
I'm confident of a win tonight. Just don't start Allen and Clucas together. He will though, Barring injuries.
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Post by tqstokie on Aug 17, 2021 9:06:25 GMT
We need to get Porter into the side sooner rather than later.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 17, 2021 9:31:52 GMT
I feel like at some point if we are to make a serious bid for promotion by whatever means we will need to put a run of good results together. I'm not talking about 2 wins in a row or even 3 which has been beyond us so far in the Championship. I'm thinking about something like 8 wins in 10 games with a draw and a defeat say. In our 3 and a bit seasons so far in the Championship we have just never really put a run of results together, never built any momentum. We've just limped from one game to the next on a wim and a prayer. Am I correct in saying we haven’t won three games in a row for nearly five years? We were the far kings under Mon for larger parts of almost season until we started turning them into defeats and i fancy we will draw a lot again , wonder waht the doss are ion us being the team with the highest amount of draws
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 17, 2021 9:56:05 GMT
I feel like at some point if we are to make a serious bid for promotion by whatever means we will need to put a run of good results together. I'm not talking about 2 wins in a row or even 3 which has been beyond us so far in the Championship. I'm thinking about something like 8 wins in 10 games with a draw and a defeat say. In our 3 and a bit seasons so far in the Championship we have just never really put a run of results together, never built any momentum. We've just limped from one game to the next on a wim and a prayer. Am I correct in saying we haven’t won three games in a row for nearly five years? Oct 2016 We beat Sunderland,Hull & Swansea We won 3 in a row last September but that was 2 League cup games and 1 League game.
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 17, 2021 10:06:59 GMT
Someone pointed out they have a few key injuries. Good time to go there Get that a lot. But it never seems work out that way.
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