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Post by zerps on Jun 19, 2021 19:55:04 GMT
Anything by mister tumble as long as they do the hand gestures
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Post by hyaduck on Jun 19, 2021 21:51:39 GMT
Whether you like it or not is down to personal taste but I can't see how you can say the words don't make sense. Is nothing to do with class. The words maybe need updating slightly perhaps but it isn't limited to a kid from Eton over a kid from Barnsley comp. The kid from Barnsley has taken a liking just like the St George cross. I’m not both have been adopted by the far right, one certainly has. The song was first heard sung in private schools, as you say, down to personal taste.
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Post by pretzel on Jun 20, 2021 3:42:23 GMT
Shame that it had to pointed out by a Scotsman but I think Billy is bang on point with his observations and suggestion here.
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Post by loosestools on Jun 20, 2021 5:50:26 GMT
No offence to Liz, she seems quite decent considering, but it's about time we got one that doesn't include a King/Queen. I'd go for the Rainbow theme, or Trumpton maybe, much more jolly than that turgid shit we sing currently, paying homage to an archaic and unjust system. I cringe at our national anthem, it's embarrassing. The current National Anthem relates to the whole of Britain/UK and should be the subject of a referendum open to all on the British electoral roll. An English anthem for sporting events should be subject to a referendum open to all on the English electoral role. Never trust the general public with a vote - look at what happens on X Factor, or the General Election for that matter.
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Post by J-Roar on Jun 20, 2021 6:38:47 GMT
N.Ireland use "God Save the Queen". Yep Fornie N iReland play God Save the Queen football wise, Derry Air was used in Commonwealth games previously. Amhran N a bh fiann The free state national anthem or The Soldier's Song. Derry Air my arse
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Post by hardcastle on Jun 20, 2021 8:16:13 GMT
Jerusalem certainly a candidate .. but it’s not without history Its association with the Labour Party ..sung at the end of the Labour Party conference together with the red flag ..probably means it’d suffer from attempts at official recognition..additionally lines from the poem / song have been used previously by the Labour Party in general election campaigns Then there’s the view of the church , particularly CofE , who dispute it’s a hymn as it’s not about the glory of god .. Southwark cathedral famously banning it None of the above doesn’t necessarily make it wrong and as a rousing song sung at sporting occasions certainly fine .. but then it’s already seen as an unofficial rugby anthem of both England and the Lions Surely not The Lions? Unlike the Hanoverian dirge it's clearly referencing England not Britain (or, strictly speaking, Britain and Ireland).
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Post by Scouse on Jun 20, 2021 10:37:03 GMT
Jerusalem certainly a candidate .. but it’s not without history Its association with the Labour Party ..sung at the end of the Labour Party conference together with the red flag ..probably means it’d suffer from attempts at official recognition..additionally lines from the poem / song have been used previously by the Labour Party in general election campaigns Then there’s the view of the church , particularly CofE , who dispute it’s a hymn as it’s not about the glory of god .. Southwark cathedral famously banning it None of the above doesn’t necessarily make it wrong and as a rousing song sung at sporting occasions certainly fine .. but then it’s already seen as an unofficial rugby anthem of both England and the Lions Surely not The Lions? Unlike the Hanoverian dirge it's clearly referencing England not Britain (or, strictly speaking, Britain and Ireland). I agree re ref to England ..it’s supposedly about where Jesus ( god? ) would build Jerusalem after the resurrection / 2nd coming ..Lions ( the team ) was about 4-5 years ago
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Post by hardcastle on Jun 20, 2021 15:56:56 GMT
The interesting thing, in my mind, is that the poem / song isn't actually religious. The first verse is about the (improbable) legend of Christ travelling as a boy, to Glastonbury with his uncle, a trader. The second verse is about building a new society (which, l guess, is why, historically, it has been popular with the Labour Party).
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