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Post by noustie on Jun 13, 2021 20:06:17 GMT
I blame the English Press and Media for the hate. Every fucking time a major comp comes up they give it laldee about 1966 and all that bullshit. As if we aren't hated enough from Culloden, the Potato wars and the fucking Crusades! Granted none of that is relevant anymore as you and me had nothing to do with it but it's ingrained. FFS the Germans get a better reception than us! I have some great Welsh, Irish and Scottish mates but this is different gravy. Everyone will want the Jocks to beat us bar.our own. H To be honest mate after the last 18 months we've had I could just about deal with you bastards getting to the semi finals so long as you promised no further from there
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Post by march4 on Jun 13, 2021 20:11:28 GMT
Will be a tough game.
They will be fired up for this game more than any other.
If they win, they will expect to be named world champions.
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Post by noustie on Jun 13, 2021 20:14:23 GMT
I agree, all the home nations qualifying makes it interesting for us all, my mums side of the family were staunch Irish Catholics from over the sea and I could tell you a few stories, my mum and uncles were/are vale fans and ironically knocked around with the Coates family in Goldenhill where they both grew up and I have some great friends who are vale fans and whilst they would never cheer Stoke nor me Vale we have many a great chat about both teams. Good stuff. Banter one thing, don't do all the local rivalry stuff. I take most of the Scottish stuff in good heart as think are brilliant fans. 48 hours on the drink with them in Genoa before Ireland played Romania and a few Brazilian ladies thrown in was as good as it gets. Have you seen Mr Brown's Boys on I-Player? About Scotland at France 98 - the party in Paris after is absolutely legendary.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 20:18:09 GMT
Good stuff. Banter one thing, don't do all the local rivalry stuff. I take most of the Scottish stuff in good heart as think are brilliant fans. 48 hours on the drink with them in Genoa before Ireland played Romania and a few Brazilian ladies thrown in was as good as it gets. Have you seen Mr Brown's Boys on I-Player? About Scotland at France 98 - the party in Paris after is absolutely legendary. Never seen the show to be honest. Brendan O'Carroll was in The Van, a film about the 1990 WC. Will check it out
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Post by noustie on Jun 13, 2021 20:26:42 GMT
Have you seen Mr Brown's Boys on I-Player? About Scotland at France 98 - the party in Paris after is absolutely legendary. Never seen the show to be honest. Brendan O'Carroll was in The Van, a film about the 1990 WC. Will check it out www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000wzf6/mr-browns-boys
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Post by hardcastle on Jun 13, 2021 20:36:26 GMT
I blame the English Press and Media for the hate. Every fucking time a major comp comes up they give it laldee about 1966 and all that bullshit. As if we aren't hated enough from Culloden, the Potato wars and the fucking Crusades! Granted none of that is relevant anymore as you and me had nothing to do with it but it's ingrained. FFS the Germans get a better reception than us! I have some great Welsh, Irish and Scottish mates but this is different gravy. Everyone will want the Jocks to beat us bar.our own. H I think blaming the English for The Crusades, RAF, is stretching the point a bit, the country (a pretty minor player on the edge of Europe) was ruled by the Normans.
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Post by 4doorsaloon on Jun 13, 2021 21:17:16 GMT
Do we not want to lose/draw the next 2 games to avoid finishing top?
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Post by BuzzB on Jun 13, 2021 21:18:04 GMT
On the subject of their fans. My brother and I went to Wembley in 1977, us v them obviously, in those days the Scots absolutely dominated Wembley, England fans were sparse to say the least. So me, a 17 year old and me bro 19, have with us a union jack flag, find ourselves swamped by Jocks. Their first went in and we were soaked in whiskey. We were boys amongst loud proud scary Scots, the second went in and again a shower of beer and whiskey came tumbling down. They offered to share the booze too as I remember. A 2-0 defeat. All I can here even now is the chants of Sandy Jardine!! To their credit, they looked after us knowing full well we were intimidated and frightened being honest. At full time they invaded the pitch, wrecked the goalposts etc, we actually spotted our opportunity to wander onto the hallowed turf, only onto the edge but that was enough. A memory that will stick with me and my bro forever. The flag is still alive and well, it got kidnapped at the our Queens Silver Jubilee celebration that year, and I know to this day where it is...............are you reading Greg Colclough?? snigger snigger
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Post by lordb on Jun 14, 2021 7:10:40 GMT
Do we not want to lose/draw the next 2 games to avoid finishing top? No,we want to keep playing at Wembley
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 7:30:43 GMT
Do we not want to lose/draw the next 2 games to avoid finishing top? No,we want to keep playing at Wembley In 1966 Portugal were staying in Liverpool and the semi was at Goodison. it was changed to Wembley 48 hours before meaning Portugal had to travel to London and England could stay in London and play all their games at Wembley. Portugal were a bit miffed as a 5 hour coach journey the day before and were unable to train. cheeky stuff
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Post by werrington on Jun 14, 2021 8:39:07 GMT
No,we want to keep playing at Wembley In 1966 Portugal were staying in Liverpool and the semi was at Goodison. it was changed to Wembley 48 hours before meaning Portugal had to travel to London and England could stay in London and play all their games at Wembley. Portugal were a bit miffed as a 5 hour coach journey the day before and were unable to train. cheeky stuff Fuck em 😊
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 14, 2021 9:08:15 GMT
England 4-0 Scotland. Piece of piss.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 9:55:01 GMT
In 1966 Portugal were staying in Liverpool and the semi was at Goodison. it was changed to Wembley 48 hours before meaning Portugal had to travel to London and England could stay in London and play all their games at Wembley. Portugal were a bit miffed as a 5 hour coach journey the day before and were unable to train. cheeky stuff Fuck em 😊 Fair answer
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Post by Scouse on Jun 14, 2021 10:19:49 GMT
No,we want to keep playing at Wembley In 1966 Portugal were staying in Liverpool and the semi was at Goodison. it was changed to Wembley 48 hours before meaning Portugal had to travel to London and England could stay in London and play all their games at Wembley. Portugal were a bit miffed as a 5 hour coach journey the day before and were unable to train. cheeky stuff For balance , the semi was moved at the behest of the organising committee ( FIFA ) not England , due to increased gate receipts , an important factor back then .. Goodison got the German v Soviet semi instead .. that didn’t go down well up here apparently and saw Goodison record their lowest attendance of the games played there Another element of the 66 WC was the boycot by the African nations .. due to the lack of guaranteed final places decided upon in 64
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 10:56:09 GMT
In 1966 Portugal were staying in Liverpool and the semi was at Goodison. it was changed to Wembley 48 hours before meaning Portugal had to travel to London and England could stay in London and play all their games at Wembley. Portugal were a bit miffed as a 5 hour coach journey the day before and were unable to train. cheeky stuff For balance , the semi was moved at the behest of the organising committee ( FIFA ) not England , due to increased gate receipts , an important factor back then .. Goodison got the German v Soviet semi instead .. that didn’t go down well up here apparently and saw Goodison record their lowest attendance of the games played there Another element of the 66 WC was the boycot by the African nations .. due to the lack of guaranteed final places decided upon in 64 FIFA did claim at the time was at the request of the FA although unclear still. Either way a bit harsh on our Portuguese cousins. I guess had it happened in say Argentina in 78 would have been all kinds of conspiracy theories. England did get to play every game at Wembley as a result. Wasn't the ticketing in 66 that you had to buy a book of tickets rather than one individual game?
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Post by Scouse on Jun 14, 2021 11:43:47 GMT
For balance , the semi was moved at the behest of the organising committee ( FIFA ) not England , due to increased gate receipts , an important factor back then .. Goodison got the German v Soviet semi instead .. that didn’t go down well up here apparently and saw Goodison record their lowest attendance of the games played there Another element of the 66 WC was the boycot by the African nations .. due to the lack of guaranteed final places decided upon in 64 FIFA did claim at the time was at the request of the FA although unclear still. Either way a bit harsh on our Portuguese cousins. I guess had it happened in say Argentina in 78 would have been all kinds of conspiracy theories. England did get to play every game at Wembley as a result. Wasn't the ticketing in 66 that you had to buy a book of tickets rather than one individual game? Not sure of ticketing ..believe you could buy blocks by venue .. believe Portugal actually based themselves in Wilmslow .. the Germans in Ashbourne , Brazil in Lymm , indeed most stayed away from the cities
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 11:48:18 GMT
FIFA did claim at the time was at the request of the FA although unclear still. Either way a bit harsh on our Portuguese cousins. I guess had it happened in say Argentina in 78 would have been all kinds of conspiracy theories. England did get to play every game at Wembley as a result. Wasn't the ticketing in 66 that you had to buy a book of tickets rather than one individual game? Not sure of ticketing ..believe you could buy blocks by venue .. believe Portugal actually based themselves in Wilmslow .. the Germans in Ashbourne , Brazil in Lymm , indeed most stayed away from the cities Italy stayed in a convent I think I read.
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Post by thfc67 on Jun 14, 2021 13:29:55 GMT
Who's the clown co-commentating? He just said this Scottish team "could go down as the greatest ever". Staggering.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 13:41:18 GMT
Who's the clown co-commentating? He just said this Scottish team "could go down as the greatest ever". Staggering. A team without Alan Rough could never be their greatest ever. I guess he meant in terms of how far they could go but yep, quite a comment
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Post by thfc67 on Jun 14, 2021 13:48:44 GMT
Who's the clown co-commentating? He just said this Scottish team "could go down as the greatest ever". Staggering. A team without Alan Rough could never be their greatest ever. I guess he meant in terms of how far they could go but yep, quite a comment They finished 3rd in their group and only qualified after winning two games on penalty shoot-outs. Forty to fifty years ago, when Scotland had really good teams, you only qualified for a major tournament if you finished top of your group.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 13:50:31 GMT
A team without Alan Rough could never be their greatest ever. I guess he meant in terms of how far they could go but yep, quite a comment They finished 3rd in their group and only qualified after winning two games on penalty shoot-outs. Forty to fifty years ago, when Scotland had really good teams, you only qualified for a major tournament if you finished top of your group. Used to be 8 teams not so long back. Now Lower Gibrovia have a chance to get there
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 14, 2021 14:01:53 GMT
They finished 3rd in their group and only qualified after winning two games on penalty shoot-outs. Forty to fifty years ago, when Scotland had really good teams, you only qualified for a major tournament if you finished top of your group. Used to be 8 teams not so long back. Now Lower Gibrovia have a chance to get there Has anyone got a free stream of their next game?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 14:05:37 GMT
Used to be 8 teams not so long back. Now Lower Gibrovia have a chance to get there Has anyone got a free stream of their next game? Not until they get TV then later internet after the phone lines installed. You can follow their games by post though
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Post by raythesailor on Jun 14, 2021 14:40:22 GMT
Who's the clown co-commentating? He just said this Scottish team "could go down as the greatest ever". Staggering. I am glad you commented. I could not believe my ears! He is probably not old enough to remember the teams and players of yesteryear. They have been in the wilderness for some time . 😀 I will give Nichola a call and she can put him straight. 🤪⚓️
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 14, 2021 15:05:21 GMT
Has anyone got a free stream of their next game? Not until they get TV then later internet after the phone lines installed. You can follow their games by post though In game betting must be a ‘mare.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 14, 2021 15:07:41 GMT
Who's the clown co-commentating? He just said this Scottish team "could go down as the greatest ever". Staggering. I am glad you commented. I could not believe my ears! He is probably not old enough to remember the teams and players of yesteryear. They have been in the wilderness for some time . 😀 I will give Nichola a call and she can put him straight. 🤪⚓️ Steve Mcmanascouse looking dead into the camera yesterday and said “what Liverpool need to do in the second half”
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 14, 2021 15:29:55 GMT
Due to my chronic speed reading laziness I had thought that this was that feckin’ ‘comedy’ and missed the chance. Now I know I will try and see it.
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Post by noustie on Jun 14, 2021 16:01:51 GMT
Think I'll watch the Last Leg instead or get an early night for golf Satuarday morning.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 14, 2021 16:57:29 GMT
Who's the clown co-commentating? He just said this Scottish team "could go down as the greatest ever". Staggering. When I put the match on today on the Radio, I got some female commentator who just shouted and screeched all the while, so I turned it off again. I like measured informed sensible commentory and I hate women who insist on shouting everything.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 14, 2021 20:49:13 GMT
Anyone know the odds on England to win by 4 or more think England will ru. Riot Grealish will get on And the Scots simply won’t cope
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