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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 17, 2021 10:52:26 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 17, 2021 11:03:48 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888
A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence
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Post by lordb on May 17, 2021 11:08:50 GMT
Surprised Sheffield Wednesday so high |
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Post by mrcoke on May 17, 2021 11:28:35 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence I hear where you are coming from benjy, but if the club have made a serious series of errors it is giving the team manager too much rope, and some poor choices for manager. I doubt Scholes had much influence on those decisions, he is basically just following the directions and needs of the owners and team manager. If I was critical of Scholes it is the non playing aspects of the club that he should be brought to book for such as IT, catering. buying half the grounds seating from a company that then goes bust before he can buy the seats for the main stand. The last example is a fundamental bad business decision and shows lack of due diligence, which the club is clearly poor at when it comes to buying players. The manager may want a player for his footballing abilities but "contacts" should be used to check out the character of any potential recruit when you are spending £millions of company assets. Hughes, Rowett, and Jones were like kids in a sweet shop buying countless players and tossing money away. Scholes is guilty of handing out lucrative long term contracts and the only thing that has effectively stopped him is FFP regs. To be fair he has done well farming out the misfits for other clubs to pay their wages. The whole era since Hughes started to lose the plot shouts bad management, but I think it is more the owners fault that the office boy. As my old dad used to say " stinkin' fish starts at the head". |
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Post by mrcoke on May 17, 2021 11:33:39 GMT
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Post by scfc75 on May 17, 2021 11:41:25 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence He also presided over the same business that performed above its average for 10 straight years prior to the 3 year period you mention. If he’s at fault for the 3yrs Benji, he has to also be credited for the success prior. |
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Post by thfc67 on May 17, 2021 11:55:50 GMT
When do Spurs play the 740 games in hand of Liverpool and Arsenal? |
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Post by onionman on May 17, 2021 11:57:29 GMT
Nearly 2,000 games in hand on Liverpool, but I think I'd rather have the points in the bag.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 17, 2021 12:16:23 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence He also presided over the same business that performed above its average for 10 straight years prior to the 3 year period you mention. If he’s at fault for the 3yrs Benji, he has to also be credited for the success prior. Understood but others ie his staff have said the price for failure in the last 4 years why is he exempt from any such accountability |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 13:04:38 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence 10 years in the Prem was quite remarkable for our club. |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on May 17, 2021 13:19:03 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence 10 years in the Prem was quite remarkable for our club. Why we have spent quite a fair bit of our time in the top league. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 13:36:33 GMT
10 years in the Prem was quite remarkable for our club. Why we have spent quite a fair bit of our time in the top league. Wo hadnt been there in 30 plus years at the time and not given a hope in hell by many |
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Post by PotterLog on May 17, 2021 13:49:42 GMT
Nearly 2,000 games in hand on Liverpool, but I think I'd rather have the points in the bag. The title is in our hands |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 17, 2021 13:53:14 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence 10 years in the Prem was quite remarkable for our club. Not really we've averaged top 23 since 1888 and never had the wealth we had in those years we threw it all away |
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Post by Veritas on May 17, 2021 13:57:07 GMT
10 years in the Prem was quite remarkable for our club. Not really we've averaged top 23 since 1888 and never had the wealth we had in those years we threw it all away Stop obsessing with Scholes, it can't be good for your health! |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on May 17, 2021 14:17:54 GMT
Why we have spent quite a fair bit of our time in the top league. Wo hadnt been there in 30 plus years at the time and not given a hope in hell by many I think you will find it was something like 23 years away from the top flight before we got promoted in 2008. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 15:54:20 GMT
Wo hadnt been there in 30 plus years at the time and not given a hope in hell by many I think you will find it was something like 23 years away from the top flight before we got promoted in 2008. Only 23 years eh. was nothing. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 17, 2021 16:15:57 GMT
That's an impressively shit goal difference  |
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Post by Northy on May 18, 2021 19:55:12 GMT
Why we have spent quite a fair bit of our time in the top league. Wo hadnt been there in 30 plus years at the time and not given a hope in hell by many 23 wasn't it? |
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Post by Sfance on May 18, 2021 20:01:31 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence He also presided over the same business that performed above its average for 10 straight years prior to the 3 year period you mention. If he’s at fault for the 3yrs Benji, he has to also be credited for the success prior. In any other business, what the CEO did four years ago and before is absolutely irrelevant. Sure give him credit for that if you want - it’s probably fair to do so - then fire his ass before he does any more damage. |
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Post by Sfance on May 18, 2021 20:10:23 GMT
I’ d love to work for some of you Scholes sycophants. “Sfance - looks like you fucked up again. Here’s another 100K.”
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Post by Sfance on May 18, 2021 20:31:11 GMT
Or how about this . . . "Sfance, no-one seems to know what you do, other than spend my money on non-performing assets, but since I have far more than god and you seem to be the only person I know willing to sit down and have a pint with my Neanderthal son, here's another 100K."
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Post by RAF on May 19, 2021 6:51:16 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence He also presided over the same business that performed above its average for 10 straight years prior to the 3 year period you mention. If he’s at fault for the 3yrs Benji, he has to also be credited for the success prior. He has been credited, to the tune of 1 million quid a fucking year. In any other business he would have been sacked 3 years ago. H |
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Post by callas12 on May 19, 2021 7:12:34 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence He also presided over the same business that performed above its average for 10 straight years prior to the 3 year period you mention. If he’s at fault for the 3yrs Benji, he has to also be credited for the success prior. Agree with this to a degree & yes Scholes does deserve credit for our promotion & Premier League adventure ( arguably until season 9-10). But as the famous footy saying goes, your only as good as your last game. Same could apply to seasons. Ours last 4 or so seasons have shown incompetence of the highest order. Sadly in football as the Sheff Weds eg or even with successful managers at clubs shows (eg Ranieri at Leicester!), doesn't matter what's gone before, its where your currently at that matters. |
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Post by mickstupp on May 19, 2021 8:14:10 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence And what about the 12 years before that? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 20, 2021 15:00:48 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence And what about the 12 years before that? so poor have the last five years been in playing terms and financial terms we have literally erased their legacy , the playoff squad is as bad or worse than that Pulis inherited and we cant spent any money despite the owners willingness and zillions |
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Post by lordb on May 20, 2021 16:10:07 GMT
And what about the 12 years before that? so poor have the last five years been in playing terms and financial terms we have literally erased their legacy , the playoff squad is as bad or worse than that Pulis inherited and we cant spent any money despite the owners willingness and zillions you can't have it both ways should Scholes go? yes has he made loads of mistakes ? yes has everything that has gone wrong his fault? no, that's a childish argument it's as stupid as saying everything that went right before was down to him when he's gone (one day) as a club we will continue to make mistakes some of which will be the same mistakes (or similar) to the ones made already, why? because football clubs (all of them) continually make the same mistakes over & over again |
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Post by mickstupp on May 20, 2021 16:19:01 GMT
And what about the 12 years before that? so poor have the last five years been in playing terms and financial terms we have literally erased their legacy , the playoff squad is as bad or worse than that Pulis inherited and we cant spent any money despite the owners willingness and zillions That’s football. I could list 20 clubs who have done exactly the same thing. |
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Post by Goonie on May 20, 2021 16:19:17 GMT
So given untold riches in the last 15 years Scholes is presiding over a business that for the last 3 years is performing significantly below its average since 1888 A quite remarkable level of utter incompetence The Gravity Crocodile has come home to roost |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 20, 2021 17:35:17 GMT
so poor have the last five years been in playing terms and financial terms we have literally erased their legacy , the playoff squad is as bad or worse than that Pulis inherited and we cant spent any money despite the owners willingness and zillions That’s football. I could list 20 clubs who have done exactly the same thing. Come on then which 20 of the richest 30 clubs in the world 5 years ago are now in the same position as us now indeed id struggle to name 20 clubs that have such a spectacular wasted opportunity as us in the las 20 years and we haven't finished yet , im not sure people understand the true context of where we were and the opportunity it offers in terms of financial wealth and backing and how that compares to our history we have literally thrown away the golden opportunity of our history |
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