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Post by lordb on May 13, 2021 11:18:54 GMT
Another waste of space down to the process, another expensive albatross on huge wages and long contract dragging the club down. the process (i.e. the club not the manager) was keen to spend the money on an expensive loan :Dwight Gayle instead the new manager Rowett on the back of Phillips insistence pushed hard for Afobe - you may recall Rowetts comments at the time re not being keen on loans how many times does this have to be explained to you? you can't be that ignorant really can you?
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Post by theonlooker on May 13, 2021 11:21:42 GMT
Kevin Phillips has a fuck ton to answer for on this one. I quite liked him 'til then. He also went public on his thoughts about Patrick Bamford, saying he'll never score enough goals at PL level for Leeds. 15 league goals later... Don't worry though, there are a number of posters on here who will tell you at any and every opportunity that your opinions are worthless because you haven't shared a pitch with ex professional, knowledgeable visionaries like Phillips at any stage of your life.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 13, 2021 12:44:29 GMT
I'd still take him over Vokes and TBH I'd probably take him over Fletcher, I'm certain if he was here he'd have scored more than both of the together. Gouranga. Fletcher is miles better Where's the evidence to support this? He's slower about the same in the air and with his hold up play but fuck me Fletcher's missed some golden chances this season, I think Afobe would have scored more than him this season, he's fitter younger and quicker. I'm not saying he's the answer by a long way but as an option he's no worse than Fletcher. Gouranga.
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Post by nott1 on May 13, 2021 13:06:36 GMT
We've never played him to his strengths. He's not a winger or a target man. Use him correctly and he'll bang the goals in for us. I'm guessing no one has ever played to his strengths then? He hasn't got any!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 13, 2021 13:07:10 GMT
Where's the evidence to support this? He's slower about the same in the air and with his hold up play but fuck me Fletcher's missed some golden chances this season, I think Afobe would have scored more than him this season, he's fitter younger and quicker. I'm not saying he's the answer by a long way but as an option he's no worse than Fletcher. Gouranga. Fletcher has faded in the second half of the season but in the air and with his hold up play, on his worst day, he is a million times better than Afobe.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 13, 2021 13:46:01 GMT
How many strikers have tried since relegation, yet none of them have worked out, is it the player, is it the way they are played, or is it the way we play?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 13:52:27 GMT
How many strikers have tried since relegation, yet none of them have worked out, is it the player, is it the way they are played, or is it the way we play? We don’t have one single midfielder that looks up to pass the ball forward when they get it. Afobe is pretty strong and relatively fast. The best goal I saw him score for us was a ball through, where he dominated the centre back and finished. We don’t do that. The last time I saw a ball through the middle was from Souttar to Fletcher? (Powell?) and we scored off that also. He won’t win balls as a target man. I think Vokes is a worse option than Afobe, as is Gregory. But Afobe’s wages make it very unlikely we’ll be trying to keep him this window.
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Post by jonnybravo on May 13, 2021 14:13:00 GMT
Hopefully he feels strong enough to commit to football again , after losing his daughter 2 years ago,a parents worst nightmare anybody would struggle, he deserves another chance.
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Post by lordb on May 13, 2021 14:39:56 GMT
Where's the evidence to support this? He's slower about the same in the air and with his hold up play but fuck me Fletcher's missed some golden chances this season, I think Afobe would have scored more than him this season, he's fitter younger and quicker. I'm not saying he's the answer by a long way but as an option he's no worse than Fletcher. Gouranga. Fletcher is slowing & has poor injury record 'about the same in the air' rubbish, Jimmy Krankie is better in the air than Afobe, Fletchers general play is miles better as unlike Afobe he has an actual clue as to what's going in you've forgotten how bad Afobe is sincerely hope he doesn't get chance to remind you re Fletcher ideally he's the (excellent) sub tom support Campbell & a new goalscorer
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Post by somersetstokie on May 13, 2021 18:20:53 GMT
If Afobe returns we could play him through the middle, with two rapid wing men, Motando and Doughty, to supply him.
"Beni and the Jets!"
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Post by wherty on May 13, 2021 19:27:34 GMT
Slating a guys who's formed dipped as his 2 year old child was really poorly then tragically passing away 3 years ago.... well done.
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Post by clarkeda on May 13, 2021 19:32:30 GMT
Afobe doesn’t have a brain, if you watch he doesn’t react to a ball until it bounces.
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Post by Old School Stokie on May 15, 2021 14:44:02 GMT
It probably will not happen, but could be an interesting partnership with Afobe & Campbell with Powell playing just behind them, but we would need fast and competent wing backs who can do the basics like crossing a decent ball
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Post by FullerMagic on May 15, 2021 14:45:07 GMT
I think we're going to find it really tough to move him on anywhere next season, even on loan.
And I don't think MON will have any intention of playing him, quite rightly, because he's shite (especially so in a 4-3-3)
Then to cap it all, he'll have another year left on great money, even at the end of next season.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 15, 2021 14:51:57 GMT
I think we're going to find it really tough to move him on anywhere next season, even on loan. And I don't think MON will have any intention of playing him, quite rightly, because he's shite (especially so in a 4-3-3) Then to cap it all, he'll have another year left on great money, even at the end of next season. All you say is true!
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Post by TinkerT on May 15, 2021 14:53:39 GMT
I think we're going to find it really tough to move him on anywhere next season, even on loan. And I don't think MON will have any intention of playing him, quite rightly, because he's shite (especially so in a 4-3-3) Then to cap it all, he'll have another year left on great money, even at the end of next season. He's twice the player vokes is. I'd rather afobe or Gregory off the bench than seeing that useless twat wear our red and white again. In fact, we'd be better having big dave the 30 stone heavyweight playing for the dog and duck on a Sunday morning, he's THAT bad.
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Post by nott1 on May 15, 2021 15:01:02 GMT
I think we're going to find it really tough to move him on anywhere next season, even on loan. And I don't think MON will have any intention of playing him, quite rightly, because he's shite (especially so in a 4-3-3) Then to cap it all, he'll have another year left on great money, even at the end of next season. He's twice the player vokes is. I'd rather afobe or Gregory off the bench than seeing that useless twat wear our red and white again. In fact, we'd be better having big dave the 30 stone heavyweight playing for the dog and duck on a Sunday morning, he's THAT bad. Twice as good as a pile of shit still stinks!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 15, 2021 15:01:24 GMT
I think we're going to find it really tough to move him on anywhere next season, even on loan. And I don't think MON will have any intention of playing him, quite rightly, because he's shite (especially so in a 4-3-3) Then to cap it all, he'll have another year left on great money, even at the end of next season. He's twice the player vokes is. I'd rather afobe or Gregory off the bench than seeing that useless twat wear our red and white again. In fact, we'd be better having big dave the 30 stone heavyweight playing for the dog and duck on a Sunday morning, he's THAT bad. Most players with 2 legs and a pulse are going to pass the 'better than Vokes' test though. He's physically a shadow of what he was, and completely ill-suited to playing in a 4-3-3 I think even MON would have Vokes bottom of that 3-man league - but the problem is, they don't clear the Vokes bar by enough, just enough to get some interest from the really desperate and misguided recruitment teams - and get them off our wage bill temporarily, and save what is from our point of view, really meaningful chunks of money. Playing either of them in Vokes' minutes wouldn't have moved the needle for us in any meaningful way I think there's been an acceptance from our end that Vokes is completely unsellable and unmoveable, so he's been used as the very last option for purely political reasons within the squad, in the knowledge that he's a decent bloke who we're stuck with for 18 months on £35,000-a-week. I'm sure MON doesn't rate him at all and would move him on if he possibly could. I'd hope that he doesn't see the pitch at all next season though, as he enters his final 12 months
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Post by gingerninja on May 15, 2021 15:05:50 GMT
It would be some feat by all concerned if we managed to offload Afobe and Vokes this window🤞
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Post by Old School Stokie on May 15, 2021 15:20:11 GMT
Vokes to replace Pope at the Vale - both lard arses
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Post by somersetstokie on May 15, 2021 15:22:17 GMT
Would we have to pay Vale much?
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Post by clarkeda on May 15, 2021 16:43:40 GMT
Doesn’t Mr Jones want his £9m star striker at Kenilworth? Even if he just took the wages that’d be abit of a result wouldn’t it?
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Post by chad on May 15, 2021 18:42:40 GMT
Vokes to replace Pope at the Vale - both lard arses Out of the two I’d genuinely take Pope next season
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Post by yyy on May 15, 2021 18:45:14 GMT
Doesn’t Mr Jones want his £9m star striker at Kenilworth? Even if he just took the wages that’d be abit of a result wouldn’t it? It would be a coup
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Post by Trouserdog on May 15, 2021 18:48:17 GMT
He's twice the player vokes is. I'd rather afobe or Gregory off the bench than seeing that useless twat wear our red and white again. In fact, we'd be better having big dave the 30 stone heavyweight playing for the dog and duck on a Sunday morning, he's THAT bad. Most players with 2 legs and a pulse are going to pass the 'better than Vokes' test though. He's physically a shadow of what he was, and completely ill-suited to playing in a 4-3-3 I think even MON would have Vokes bottom of that 3-man league - but the problem is, they don't clear the Vokes bar by enough, just enough to get some interest from the really desperate and misguided recruitment teams - and get them off our wage bill temporarily, and save what is from our point of view, really meaningful chunks of money. Playing either of them in Vokes' minutes wouldn't have moved the needle for us in any meaningful way I think there's been an acceptance from our end that Vokes is completely unsellable and unmoveable, so he's been used as the very last option for purely political reasons within the squad, in the knowledge that he's a decent bloke who we're stuck with for 18 months on £35,000-a-week. I'm sure MON doesn't rate him at all and would move him on if he possibly could. I'd hope that he doesn't see the pitch at all next season though, as he enters his final 12 months How any club could spend a combined £30m+ on strikers like Berahino, Afobe and Vokes one after the other is truly mind boggling. You'd have a better hit rate if you stuck a pin in the Rothman's Football Annual (remember them?) and signed the first three names you landed on.
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Post by J-Roar on May 15, 2021 19:49:01 GMT
Most players with 2 legs and a pulse are going to pass the 'better than Vokes' test though. He's physically a shadow of what he was, and completely ill-suited to playing in a 4-3-3 I think even MON would have Vokes bottom of that 3-man league - but the problem is, they don't clear the Vokes bar by enough, just enough to get some interest from the really desperate and misguided recruitment teams - and get them off our wage bill temporarily, and save what is from our point of view, really meaningful chunks of money. Playing either of them in Vokes' minutes wouldn't have moved the needle for us in any meaningful way I think there's been an acceptance from our end that Vokes is completely unsellable and unmoveable, so he's been used as the very last option for purely political reasons within the squad, in the knowledge that he's a decent bloke who we're stuck with for 18 months on £35,000-a-week. I'm sure MON doesn't rate him at all and would move him on if he possibly could. I'd hope that he doesn't see the pitch at all next season though, as he enters his final 12 months How any club could spend a combined £30m+ on strikers like Berahino, Afobe and Vokes one after the other is truly mind boggling. You'd have a better hit rate if you stuck a pin in the Rothman's Football Annual (remember them?) and signed the first three names you landed on. Knowing our luck we'd land on Berahino, Vokes and Afobe.
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Post by chad on May 15, 2021 19:53:07 GMT
Afobe came on as sub today on 85 minutes and scored on 87 If only Vokes could do that
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Post by theonlooker on May 15, 2021 19:53:33 GMT
How any club could spend a combined £30m+ on strikers like Berahino, Afobe and Vokes one after the other is truly mind boggling. You'd have a better hit rate if you stuck a pin in the Rothman's Football Annual (remember them?) and signed the first three names you landed on. Knowing our luck we'd land on Berahino, Vokes and Afobe. That reminds me of a line in Only Fools and Horses.
Rodney - "I've got a horrible feeling that if there was such a thing as reincarnation, knowing my luck i'd come back as me."
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2021 20:04:27 GMT
Kevin Phillips has a fuck ton to answer for on this one. I quite liked him 'til then. He also went public on his thoughts about Patrick Bamford, saying he'll never score enough goals at PL level for Leeds. 15 league goals later... Don't worry though, there are a number of posters on here who will tell you at any and every opportunity that your opinions are worthless because you haven't shared a pitch with ex professional, knowledgeable visionaries like Phillips at any stage of your life. It's true where 99.9999999% of football fans are concerned to be fair.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on May 15, 2021 20:14:23 GMT
Kevin Phillips has a fuck ton to answer for on this one. I quite liked him 'til then. He also went public on his thoughts about Patrick Bamford, saying he'll never score enough goals at PL level for Leeds. 15 league goals later... Don't worry though, there are a number of posters on here who will tell you at any and every opportunity that your opinions are worthless because you haven't shared a pitch with ex professional, knowledgeable visionaries like Phillips at any stage of your life. Although Phillips clearly doesn't know his arse from his elbow from a coaching and talent spotting perspective, I don't think anyone saw Patrick Bamford doing well this season. I think the universal opinion was he's not good enough and scoring goals could be Leeds' problem this season. The only person who thought Bamford was going to do well this season was Patrick Bamford. Fair play to him for proving all the doubters wrong and having a blinding season.
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