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May 23, 2021 19:55:59 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 23, 2021 19:55:59 GMT
'Deport them' I think is the common view on here? Where to. Christ, you're thick.
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May 23, 2021 20:30:03 GMT
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Post by mattyd2 on May 23, 2021 20:30:03 GMT
Is that near Christchurch
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May 23, 2021 20:48:39 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 23, 2021 20:48:39 GMT
Widespread chanting of from the river to the sea, speakers on stage blaming rise in anti semitism on israel actions in gaza, speaker on stage in manchester saying m&s is like the israeli embassy on the british high street. I think the tweeter might be better placed dealing with the racism in the pro palestine groups before they rightly start getting treated like the EDL.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 23, 2021 20:51:18 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 24, 2021 10:43:55 GMT
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May 24, 2021 11:18:23 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 24, 2021 11:18:23 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be.....
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 24, 2021 11:29:56 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... Surely that would be Shulamit Aloni's (Jewish) casual racism?
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Post by wagsastokie on May 24, 2021 11:41:42 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... What the flying fuck is racist in that post It’s about time when both sides on this board give their heads a good bloody wobble Using the word racist without total justification just devalues it to a point where no one gives a fuck about it Your racist no I’m not your more racist than me no I’m not and so it continues thread after thread till admin finally lock the thread Whilst many different opinions and viewpoints get lost Oh and by the way being anti Zionist is neither racist or anti Semitic
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 24, 2021 11:51:55 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... What the flying fuck is racist in that post It’s about time when both sides on this board give their heads a good bloody wobble Using the word racist without total justification just devalues it to a point where no one gives a fuck about it Your racist no I’m not your more racist than me no I’m not and so it continues thread after thread till admin finally lock the thread Whilst many different opinions and viewpoints get lost Oh and by the way being anti Zionist is neither racist or anti Semitic The current IHRA definition of what constitutes antisemitism was always going to take us down this route unfortunately, those who oppose(d) it continue to be vilified for doing so but some bad faith individuals/organisations won't rest until the very mention of Zionism or any criticism of Israel however small is deemed antisemitic. Which doesn't tackle the real and growing issues of actual antisemitism across society.......
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May 24, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 24, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... You really do embarrass yourself here mate.
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Post by vokeswagen on May 24, 2021 13:36:28 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... You really do embarrass yourself here mate. The really pathetic thing about all this is that fyd transparently doesn’t care a jot about Jewish people or the fight against anti Semitism. To him it’s just a handy stick to swing at the people he’s been told to hate by Twitter and Guido Fawkes. If Jeremy Corbyn had happened to be staunchly pro-Israel, you can bet your bottom dollar that fyd would have been posting all the same arguments you, prestwich, and partick etc have been posting. (Albeit without the commas and full stops that you lads have managed to use )
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May 24, 2021 19:57:06 GMT
Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 24, 2021 19:57:06 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... According to The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, the total death toll of the Syrian Civil War (as of Jan 2020) was 380,000 in the nine years since it started. www.arabnews.com/node/1608361/middle-eastAdmittedly that is now one year out-of-date, but where does the 380,000 figure for Palestinians killed in Syria come from?
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 24, 2021 20:12:11 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... According to The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, the total death toll of the Syrian Civil War (as of Jan 2020) was 380,000 in the nine years since it started. www.arabnews.com/node/1608361/middle-eastAdmittedly that is now one year out-of-date, but where does the 380,000 figure for Palestinians killed in Syria come from? 4,013 Palestinians killed as a result of the Syrian conflict according a Palestinian group on the ground in Damascus, some in Syrian prisons, some shot by snipers/killed in air strikes and some through a number of other reasons. Of course FYD fails to acknowledge that the reason they were in Syria was because most were displaced during the Israeli occupation in the first place......
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May 24, 2021 20:44:59 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 24, 2021 20:44:59 GMT
I think that the West and therefore the world has got itself into a bit of a problem here , for which there is no real answer in the actuality. In 1947 it can be understood why the setting up of the state of Israel took place, given the history of the Jewish people, persecuted in diaspora, culminating in the Nazi Germany's final solution and Holocaust. ( as an aside , some posters have been at length on the Oatcake trying to show how European countries are much better than the UK , equating it with the EU....Germany's relatively recent past perhaps says otherwise, and I love the Germanys).
Having set up the state of Israel with Palestinians becoming second class citizens in their own land, we have a problem without the possibility of a " good" solution. Morally those that argue that the state should not exist, that we should go back to the 1945 borders, may be right.....but it is not going to happen, no chance. So they can keep arguing the case, righteously, but to no avail. The two state solution is the only possible hope for a " peace" of sorts, but realisically Palestinians are never going to fully accept their effective exclusion from predominance in Jerusalem.
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May 24, 2021 21:59:20 GMT
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Post by erogenous on May 24, 2021 21:59:20 GMT
I think you should be sent to the middle East with a laptop full of memes. Educate and emancipate one cut and paste at a time.
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May 24, 2021 22:07:28 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 24, 2021 22:07:28 GMT
I think you should be sent to the middle East with a laptop full of memes. Educate and emancipate one cut and paste at a time. So...which poster did you used to be? Or are you using multiple accounts?
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May 24, 2021 23:54:13 GMT
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Post by erogenous on May 24, 2021 23:54:13 GMT
Used to post as Boothen Ben-Gurion but forgot my password.
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May 25, 2021 4:59:12 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on May 25, 2021 4:59:12 GMT
Used to post as Boothen Ben-Gurion but forgot my password. Bugger me lads better cut the opinions out The Mossad disinformation service has found the oatcake
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May 25, 2021 7:45:27 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 25, 2021 7:45:27 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... You really do embarrass yourself here mate. The only mention of anti semitism in the last 2 or 3 pages is the one where I referenced what went on at a number of the protests, that included a speaker telling jewish people in the uk they had to expect a rise in attacks because of what the Israeli government had done, this went unchallenged now just imagine if someone had said chinese students have to expect a rise in attacks because of covid or muslims should expect a rise in attacks because of something Iran had done, there would rightly be hell up. Your response is a meme that basically claims anti semitism is just made to shut down critics like I said casual racism its not me who should be embarrassed sunshine.
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May 25, 2021 7:50:53 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 25, 2021 7:50:53 GMT
The jews always have an agenda trope you really love your casual racism dont you just looking for your posts on the 380k Palestinians killed in syria cant seem to find any, why would that be..... What the flying fuck is racist in that post It’s about time when both sides on this board give their heads a good bloody wobble Using the word racist without total justification just devalues it to a point where no one gives a fuck about it Your racist no I’m not your more racist than me no I’m not and so it continues thread after thread till admin finally lock the thread Whilst many different opinions and viewpoints get lost Oh and by the way being anti Zionist is neither racist or anti Semitic You seem to have a bit of a blind spot as I have said the only comments about anti semitism were made by me with regards to what happened at a couple of protests, 2 posts later Mr shit meme puts up a completely random post that basically implies anti semitism is made up, join up the dots.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 25, 2021 8:55:23 GMT
What the flying fuck is racist in that post It’s about time when both sides on this board give their heads a good bloody wobble Using the word racist without total justification just devalues it to a point where no one gives a fuck about it Your racist no I’m not your more racist than me no I’m not and so it continues thread after thread till admin finally lock the thread Whilst many different opinions and viewpoints get lost Oh and by the way being anti Zionist is neither racist or anti Semitic You seem to have a bit of a blind spot as I have said the only comments about anti semitism were made by me with regards to what happened at a couple of protests, 2 posts later Mr shit meme puts up a completely random post that basically implies anti semitism is made up, join up the dots. I’ve joined the dots up and all I see is you barley clinging on to a creditable view point I’ve had many a disagreement with huddy and in most cases we have very different political opinions But i have never seen where he has posted that anti semitism does not exist And contrary to one of your recent posts does not use casual racism The meme in question was by a former member of the Israeli government Merely pointing out to blindly accuse someone of anti Semitism allows you to stifle legitimate debate The only one showing a blind spot is yourself to facts you dislike
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May 25, 2021 9:37:35 GMT
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Post by erogenous on May 25, 2021 9:37:35 GMT
The meme in question was by a former member of the Israeli government Merely pointing out to blindly accuse someone of anti Semitism allows you to stifle legitimate debate....
THis underneath a post about a journalist claiming #hitlerwasright
Are people on this thread actually reading what each other are writing/cutting and pasting off twitter.
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Post by vokeswagen on May 25, 2021 9:56:24 GMT
I think you should be sent to the middle East with a laptop full of memes. Educate and emancipate one cut and paste at a time. So...which poster did you used to be? Or are you using multiple accounts? themistocles (stokeharry) I believe mate 👍 There are only two people posting on here I think. There’s us and the right wing one
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 25, 2021 9:58:42 GMT
This thread could do with a bit of common ground. While I try ti amplify the Palestinian voice I think that is happening more. So some Israeli voices. Organisations like "breaking the silence", "combatants for peace" and "standing together" are the leading edge of any positive outcome. They all have accounts worth following although ST is mostly in hebrew. As I've said previously on here, my opinion is that the key is Israelis (and outsiders) starting to see the present in context of the events of the nakba. Which currently most either havent heard of or deny. But Nakba denial needs to be seen like any other trauma denial. The Palestinians cannot be expected to take part in a process with a country that denies the trauma at their hands. Once that's in the room, anything is possible. (Which of course is exactly why extreme Zionists dont allow it) It's not going to be an easy journey because really seeing the trauma of the Palestinians means admitting it was at hands of the heroes of Israel.
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May 25, 2021 10:29:31 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 25, 2021 10:29:31 GMT
You seem to have a bit of a blind spot as I have said the only comments about anti semitism were made by me with regards to what happened at a couple of protests, 2 posts later Mr shit meme puts up a completely random post that basically implies anti semitism is made up, join up the dots. I’ve joined the dots up and all I see is you barley clinging on to a creditable view point I’ve had many a disagreement with huddy and in most cases we have very different political opinions But i have never seen where he has posted that anti semitism does not exist And contrary to one of your recent posts does not use casual racism The meme in question was by a former member of the Israeli government Merely pointing out to blindly accuse someone of anti Semitism allows you to stifle legitimate debate The only one showing a blind spot is yourself to facts you dislike Thanks Waga, appreciate it.
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May 25, 2021 10:36:09 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on May 25, 2021 10:36:09 GMT
The meme in question was by a former member of the Israeli government Merely pointing out to blindly accuse someone of anti Semitism allows you to stifle legitimate debate.... THis underneath a post about a journalist claiming #hitlerwasright Are people on this thread actually reading what each other are writing/cutting and pasting off twitter. No most of us take little notice of bollocks written on Twitter And certainly don’t allow it to influence our opinions
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Post by wagsastokie on May 25, 2021 10:37:28 GMT
So...which poster did you used to be? Or are you using multiple accounts? themistocles (stokeharry) I believe mate 👍 There are only two people posting on here I think mate. There’s us and the right wing one There’s the odd few of us who fluctuate between the two depending on the issue
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Post by vokeswagen on May 25, 2021 11:20:21 GMT
You seem to have a bit of a blind spot as I have said the only comments about anti semitism were made by me with regards to what happened at a couple of protests, 2 posts later Mr shit meme puts up a completely random post that basically implies anti semitism is made up, join up the dots. I’ve joined the dots up and all I see is you barley clinging on to a creditable view point I’ve had many a disagreement with huddy and in most cases we have very different political opinions But i have never seen where he has posted that anti semitism does not exist And contrary to one of your recent posts does not use casual racism The meme in question was by a former member of the Israeli government Merely pointing out to blindly accuse someone of anti Semitism allows you to stifle legitimate debate
The only one showing a blind spot is yourself to facts you dislike As with everything fyd posts, this is a strategy he’s picked up from social media. The person behind the quote is a Jewish person who has said something that’s inconvenient to fyd’s “argument” (such as it is). Funnily enough, fyd got terribly cross about this “wrong type of Jew” stuff when he was ordered to by his Twitter overlords in order to lay into the Labour Party. Yet here he is effectively saying that a Jewish person is anti Semitic. It’s hard to imagine quite how a Jewish person can be anti Semitic but anyway... The reality is that it’s a very complex issue with lots of deeply held and perfectly valid views on either side. As you say, the racism thing is designed to silence the stuff fyd doesn’t like or, more likely, has no intelligent response to Sadly as long as the binary black and white arguments go round and round there will never be a resolution to this awful situation.
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Post by thevoid on May 25, 2021 16:37:06 GMT
So...which poster did you used to be? Or are you using multiple accounts? themistocles (stokeharry) I believe mate 👍 There are only two people posting on here I think. There’s us and the right wing one You never did say what happened to your manmarking account mate 😀
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May 25, 2021 17:04:01 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 25, 2021 17:04:01 GMT
You seem to have a bit of a blind spot as I have said the only comments about anti semitism were made by me with regards to what happened at a couple of protests, 2 posts later Mr shit meme puts up a completely random post that basically implies anti semitism is made up, join up the dots. I’ve joined the dots up and all I see is you barley clinging on to a creditable view point I’ve had many a disagreement with huddy and in most cases we have very different political opinions But i have never seen where he has posted that anti semitism does not exist And contrary to one of your recent posts does not use casual racism The meme in question was by a former member of the Israeli government Merely pointing out to blindly accuse someone of anti Semitism allows you to stifle legitimate debate The only one showing a blind spot is yourself to facts you dislike You've almost got there, as I said the only mention of anti semitism was by me and of things that happened at the protests, so perhaps you can explain how that meme has any relevance to british jews being told oh well you have to expect attacks if israel does something people dont like in gaza, because last time I checked I don't work for the israeli government.
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